[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 583 Discussion and 584 Predictions
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I tend to think that most people don't deserve to read the manga at all, since they are essentially BITCHING LIKE LITTLE CHILDREN about something they get for free.
As I've said before, if you don't like it, you don't have to read it.
That's just you being a hypocrite. Do you like every chapter of the manga? I think the answer is no.
Don't get me wrong. I know that we can read it for free, but that doesn't mean we don't have the permission to talk about what we like and don't like. I also didn't really like the capter. But that doesn't mean that I'm not grateful that I can read it (for free). The fact that I'm kinda upset by this chapter, just means that I really love the manga, and that I care about the story.
I realise that a background is needed in order for the story to have some meaning. But my main question is: why now? The timing is kinda off, if you ask me. But hey, that's my opinion. I don't bash on you because you like the chapter. Well, don't bash on us because we don't like it
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Actually I DO like every chapter, since it's all part of the same story.
Talking about the chapter is one thing. Saying you don't like it is something else completely. It's understandable if you're disappointed with the story not being what you expected, or maybe being disappointed with the way it's playing out. However, liking it or disliking it isn't something that you decide on a chapter by chapter basis.
Do you buy a book from your favorite author, read through it, then decide you like some parts of the book but don't like others? That's a really fragmented way of thinking about a form of entertainment.
Typically, if someone doesn't like something about a book or a movie, they don't participate. I don't see why that would be any different with Naruto.
How is the timing off? Is it your story? I'm not saying you have to like the chapter. However, I am saying that disliking any part of the story is grounds for you to disregard the entire story completely. Don't waste your time with something that doesn't entertain you.
Okay, I'm glad that you enjoy every chapter of the manga. You are right about this: it's all part of the same story. But I don't all parts are evenly entertaining. I really liked the part where Naruto and Kurama decided to work together: it was very emotional. I also liked the flashbacks in this chapters, because they built up the emotions.
But at this very moment, the flashbacks of Kabuto aren't doing much to me. I really like Kabuto as a character, but I find one complete chapter of flashbacks kinda boring. Does that mean that I don't like the manga and that I don't deserve to read it? No, because I know that this is possibly the buildup to a mindblowing chapter. It's all part of the same story, just like you said. And judging the story because of one 'bad' chapter isn't what I do
. Ofcourse not. But people do it with Naruto. Why? Because a chapter gets released once every week. People build up hopes and expectations, and maybe don't like what they see in a chapter. For example: Itachi reveals the power of Izanami, but 2 weeks later we still don't know what this power can do. People really want to know this, and it's disappointing when you have to wait weeks, and have to read about something else entirely. It's just a normal reflex. I'm glad you liked this chapter! I'm not saying I didn't. I just want to say that I was kinda disappointed.
It's not my story. I know it's free. But I am also free to dislike what I see and read. But I really like this manga, and that won't change because one chapter isn't as I expected it to be. I respect Kishi as a writer, but he is also human. He can't satisfy everyone with every chapter.
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Censored, you're getting +rep. Squigles, too, because I think we can all see where you're both coming from.
Meanwhile, just because I'm curious: does anybody know if the glasses Kabuto has now are the same ones that his "mother" gave him? I know they definitely look similar, but I haven't exactly made it a point to see if Kabuto's glasses would ever have to be replaced or anything before now. Just curious.
Meanwhile, just because I'm curious: does anybody know if the glasses Kabuto has now are the same ones that his "mother" gave him? I know they definitely look similar, but I haven't exactly made it a point to see if Kabuto's glasses would ever have to be replaced or anything before now. Just curious.
Sukalotta Kok
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Kishi's showing flashbacks of Kabuto because before you die supposively your life flashes before your eyes . This is Kish's way of telling us kabuto's a goner
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well it wasn't that bad !
but the whole chapter was full of flashbacks !!!
i wonder what naruto kakashi and guy are doing against tobi !!
** probably kicking his ass **
but the whole chapter was full of flashbacks !!!
i wonder what naruto kakashi and guy are doing against tobi !!
** probably kicking his ass **
Don´t think so, tobi is probably shinra tenseing the life out of them.xdwell it wasn't that bad !
but the whole chapter was full of flashbacks !!!
i wonder what naruto kakashi and guy are doing against tobi !!
** probably kicking his ass **
Thank you.
I was getting tired of the members not looking at the story and judge a chapter only based on the fights, even when something crucial to the story is being told they get bored and hate the chapter not realizing that's the reason the series is that good, the story justify the fights People, get it through your heads!!
Damn, i can't believe i wrote this from my phone.xd
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So im just waiting on this izanami thing to fail and for itachi to get sealed that way he tells sasuke that the ems is linked to the rinnegan and he can unlock it and totally destroy kabuto with it like naruto is going to destroy tobi with bijuu mode i predict this willl happen in anywhere from 3 to 6 chapters from 583
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Kabuto: You're..that man from the root!
Orochimaru: I see you remember me as well, good. Allow me to introduce myself.
My name is Orochimaru, one of the legendary sannin, student of the third hokage and....
Kabuto: ?
Orochimaru: Former member of the Akatsuki!
Kabuto: !!
*Kabuto flashback in a flashback*
Kabuto's spying on the some sand shinobi when Hiruko appears.
Kabuto: That outfit!? The one lord Danzo warned us about!
Hiruko: ....
Sand shinobi: What is it lord Sasori?
Hiruko: I thought you said you weren't followed.
Kabuto:!
Sand shinobi: Wha-what? Impossible?
Hiruko impales the sand shinobi with Hiruko's tail.
Kabuto: Shit, this is bad he knows I'm here!
As Kabuto starts running but a tail impales him from the sand
Kabuto: Urgh....
Hikruko approaches
Kabuto: Why....would you kill your spy....
Hiruko: Because I just found a replacement.
Kabuto: !?
Hiruko: A spy clumsy enough to allow spectators isn't a good spy, let a lone a good shinobi. You though, if I hadn't known this place my entire life, I wouldn't have even spotted you.
Kabuto starts collapsing from the poison
As his eyes are almost shut, you can see Sasori come out of Hiruko, but he cannot see his face.
Sasori: This is the antidote to my poison, I've added a little something extra to it..let's just say, from this day forward, you will be my spy.
*flashback in a flashback ends*
Kabuto: What do you want with me.
Orochimaru: You want a purpose, you want a person to look after you like your mother did, well, I can use your medical ninjutsu to my advantage and you can use me for yours. Or would you rather continue spying for Sasori.
Kabuto: ! What...
Orochimaru: Ahh...I see, you don't even know.
Kabuto: Very well, I accept.
Scene switches to Orochimaru's hideout, which is in the leaf.
Orochimaru: You'll need this if you want to roam around here.
Orochimaru gives him a leaf headband.
Kabuto: Thank you.
Kabuto: ?
Kabuto see's a wall full of photos of the Akatsuki, more like a family tree.
Kabuto: This....with all this information...how...Danzo would be proud if --
Orochimaru: No one knows about this. Not even Danzo.
Kabuto: But why? Our mission was to report any activity that could endanger the leaf, that includes this organization...
Orochiamru: I don't work for Danzo anymore, I have my own goals.
Kabuto: Then...why do you have this.
Orochimaru: As you can see, I was a member of this organization not only to spy on them, but to eliminate them.
Orochimaru: I was partnered with the man who was controlling you, Sasori of the red sand.
Orochimaru: After getting intel on many members*picture shows Deidara,Hidan,Kakuzu,Kisame,Konan,Zetsu,Pain* There was one that struck me as the most interesting.
Orochimaru starts to point at Itachi, however, he continues one picture above, to Tobi
Kabuto: And...who is that? his face is covered.
Orochimaru: Exactly, and beneath that mask, holds the dangerous truth this world has to offer, beneath that mask holds the power that can change everything..beneath that mask..
Orochimaru takes a sheet off some wall, there lies multiple sharingan and two pairs of the rinnegan.
Orochimaru: Is immortality!
Chapter end.
Naruto 584: My Real Self
Kabuto looks with shock at Orochimaru.
Kabuto: Orochimaru sama...why are you here?
Orochimaru: I've always been keeping an eye on you Kabuto, ever since you were small i've known you were special kukuku.
Kabuto:...Orochimaru sama, you knew my mother had been given a mission here! Was she still on that mission? Do you know who killed her? Why didn't she recognize me?!!
Kabuto breaks down in tears sobbing at the memory of his dead mother. Orochimaru still leaning out of the pool smiles.
Orochimaru: I can answer all of your questions Kabuto, kukuku, but i don't think you'll like the answers are you sure you want to hear what i have to say.
Kabuto:?!! Yes i need to know why mother didn't recognise me!!! Kabuto shouts out at orochimaru.
Orochimaru: Kukuku, But if i do answer your questions i want something in return.
Kabuto:?? What is it that you want?
Orochimaru: A promise.
Kabuto: A promise? what kind of promise?
Orochimaru: A promise that from this day forward you will follow me and me alone!
Kabuto: ?!!!
Orochimaru laughs and sticks out his long tongue licking his face all over.
Orochimaru: Don't worry Kabuto, I think after what you hear what i have to say that you will want to come with me yourself, however if you decide not to, then you must promise that you will come with me at least for a short time.
Kabuto: Why is it that you want me to come with you?!
Orochimaru: Because you are special (he says once more whilst licking his face). You have unique chakra, I noticed this the first time I met you and you may even have a kekkai genkai that you are not aware of. I wish to do some tests on you and learn the nature of your...uniqueness.
Kabuto: Tests.
Orochimaru: kukuku, nothing too painful I assure you and I promise you won't be permanently harmed in any way... so what is your decision Kabuto.
Kabuto stands up and drys his eyes. he puts on his glasses once more and resolve shows on his face.
Kabuto: Tell me everything you know.
Orochimaru: kukuku as you desire. your first question was whether your mother was still on that mission you heard about 5 years ago. The answer is yes, the original intel your mother managed to procure was excellent but lacking, it required your mother to stay here much longer than anticipated.
Orochimaru completely comes out of the water and snakes his way towards Kabuto's right side and whispers in his ear.
Orochimaru: Your second question was, do i know who killed her. The answer is yes but if you don't mind i'll tell you who it was at the end.
Orochimaru snakes around Kabuto to his other side and stands straight.
Orochimaru: It seems that there is a lot you don't know about your mother because your third question was why did your mother not recognise you. The reason is because of you mothers special abilty.
Kabuto:??
Orochimaru: It is for this reason why your mother was so valued by root, why Danzou did something as risky as to threaten her in front of witnesses and also the reason why she was given the title of The Walking Maiden.
Kabuto:...
Orochimaru: Your mother had the ability to completely wipe her memory.
Kabuto:!!!
Orochimaru: actually that is wrong, she had a special ability to seal all her memories for a predetermined time and replace them. She could give herself instructions before sealing her memories to help guide her and also fabricate a false personality and life about herself which even she would beleive is the truth.
Kabuto:...i...don't understand.
Orochimaru: What made her ability so special was that it was something that was imposible to break, notice, or even be aware that it ever existed. The best and most elite ninja in Root have tried to break it or find flaws with it or even to sense it and never once met with success.
Kabuto:...
Orochimaru: Your mother was the perfect spy because she could walk into any village in the world and work her way up to her desired destination. And even if those places were of high level security, she could be searched, probed, interrogated and tortured as much as possible and still nothing would be found. This was why she was known as the Walking Maiden. A woman with the ability to go anywhere she wished without alerting anyone to her true motives.
Kabuto falls to his knees
Kabuto: I see...it is more perfect than the genjutsu of a sharingan because that can be revealed once the disruption in chakra is noticed. It is also more perfect than the mind body technique of the Yamanaka clan for the same reason.
Orochimaru: You are bright kukuku, yes it was a technique that could only be used on one's self and it was a flawless technique. Her original memories would return at whatever time she'd set, she could then pass on any intel she chose and activate her technique once more. The only way that technique could be broken is if somebody chose to betray her.
Kabuto:!!! are you saying my mother was betrayed?!
Orochimaru: Yes she was betrayed, would you like to know who betrayed her?
Kabuto: Who!!
Orochimaru slides over to kabuto's side once more and whispers in his ear.
Orochimaru: It was Danzou!
Kabuto:!!!
Orchimaru: Danzou got all the information he required for this mission. He also knew your mother was a liablitly knowing many of his plans and schemes yet not being able to kill her emotions and commit to Root. Danzou felt his hold was slipping on her so he chose to sacrifice her. He sent in Root ninja to take care of her.
Kabuto:!!!
Orochimaru: She died in a village not her own, with memories not her own. She will be buried by people who don't really know her. Her children, her friends will never know what it was she did for them.
Kabuto:...
Orochimaru: To die far away from home is the fate of all spies...but she... she died with nothing...not even with the ability to say goodbye to the people she loved.
Tears appear on Kabuto's face along with anger and rage! He screams into the air venting it all. As his rage and scream die down Orochimaru speaks once more.
Orochimaru: I have abandoned the hidden leaf. This is the current truth of the shinobi world Kabuto. This is all there is, this is how easily blood is spilt and how easily things are forgotten.
Orochimaru walks over to Kabuto and crouches down, he lifts Kabuto’s chin with his finger and makes him look into his eyes.
Orochimaru: I wish to change this world Kabuto and for that I will need you! I will understand the secrets behind all jutsu and change this world into one where no one is left with nothing.
Kabuto:...left with nothing...
Orochimaru: Come with me Kabuto, let us change this world together... even if we must destroy it first!!!
The scene changes back to the present with Kabuto facing off against Itachi and Sasuke, We see a close up of Kabuto’s face manic with glee
Kabuto: From the very start I had nothing, I always followed the dreams of others. Now I shall fulfill the dreams I and Orochimaru sama dreamed together!!!
Next Week: Naruto 585 – The Snake Lives on
Orochimaru: I see you remember me as well, good. Allow me to introduce myself.
My name is Orochimaru, one of the legendary sannin, student of the third hokage and....
Kabuto: ?
Orochimaru: Former member of the Akatsuki!
Kabuto: !!
*Kabuto flashback in a flashback*
Kabuto's spying on the some sand shinobi when Hiruko appears.
Kabuto: That outfit!? The one lord Danzo warned us about!
Hiruko: ....
Sand shinobi: What is it lord Sasori?
Hiruko: I thought you said you weren't followed.
Kabuto:!
Sand shinobi: Wha-what? Impossible?
Hiruko impales the sand shinobi with Hiruko's tail.
Kabuto: Shit, this is bad he knows I'm here!
As Kabuto starts running but a tail impales him from the sand
Kabuto: Urgh....
Hikruko approaches
Kabuto: Why....would you kill your spy....
Hiruko: Because I just found a replacement.
Kabuto: !?
Hiruko: A spy clumsy enough to allow spectators isn't a good spy, let a lone a good shinobi. You though, if I hadn't known this place my entire life, I wouldn't have even spotted you.
Kabuto starts collapsing from the poison
As his eyes are almost shut, you can see Sasori come out of Hiruko, but he cannot see his face.
Sasori: This is the antidote to my poison, I've added a little something extra to it..let's just say, from this day forward, you will be my spy.
*flashback in a flashback ends*
Kabuto: What do you want with me.
Orochimaru: You want a purpose, you want a person to look after you like your mother did, well, I can use your medical ninjutsu to my advantage and you can use me for yours. Or would you rather continue spying for Sasori.
Kabuto: ! What...
Orochimaru: Ahh...I see, you don't even know.
Kabuto: Very well, I accept.
Scene switches to Orochimaru's hideout, which is in the leaf.
Orochimaru: You'll need this if you want to roam around here.
Orochimaru gives him a leaf headband.
Kabuto: Thank you.
Kabuto: ?
Kabuto see's a wall full of photos of the Akatsuki, more like a family tree.
Kabuto: This....with all this information...how...Danzo would be proud if --
Orochimaru: No one knows about this. Not even Danzo.
Kabuto: But why? Our mission was to report any activity that could endanger the leaf, that includes this organization...
Orochiamru: I don't work for Danzo anymore, I have my own goals.
Kabuto: Then...why do you have this.
Orochimaru: As you can see, I was a member of this organization not only to spy on them, but to eliminate them.
Orochimaru: I was partnered with the man who was controlling you, Sasori of the red sand.
Orochimaru: After getting intel on many members*picture shows Deidara,Hidan,Kakuzu,Kisame,Konan,Zetsu,Pain* There was one that struck me as the most interesting.
Orochimaru starts to point at Itachi, however, he continues one picture above, to Tobi
Kabuto: And...who is that? his face is covered.
Orochimaru: Exactly, and beneath that mask, holds the dangerous truth this world has to offer, beneath that mask holds the power that can change everything..beneath that mask..
Orochimaru takes a sheet off some wall, there lies multiple sharingan and two pairs of the rinnegan.
Orochimaru: Is immortality!
Chapter end.
Naruto 584: My Real Self
Kabuto looks with shock at Orochimaru.
Kabuto: Orochimaru sama...why are you here?
Orochimaru: I've always been keeping an eye on you Kabuto, ever since you were small i've known you were special kukuku.
Kabuto:...Orochimaru sama, you knew my mother had been given a mission here! Was she still on that mission? Do you know who killed her? Why didn't she recognize me?!!
Kabuto breaks down in tears sobbing at the memory of his dead mother. Orochimaru still leaning out of the pool smiles.
Orochimaru: I can answer all of your questions Kabuto, kukuku, but i don't think you'll like the answers are you sure you want to hear what i have to say.
Kabuto:?!! Yes i need to know why mother didn't recognise me!!! Kabuto shouts out at orochimaru.
Orochimaru: Kukuku, But if i do answer your questions i want something in return.
Kabuto:?? What is it that you want?
Orochimaru: A promise.
Kabuto: A promise? what kind of promise?
Orochimaru: A promise that from this day forward you will follow me and me alone!
Kabuto: ?!!!
Orochimaru laughs and sticks out his long tongue licking his face all over.
Orochimaru: Don't worry Kabuto, I think after what you hear what i have to say that you will want to come with me yourself, however if you decide not to, then you must promise that you will come with me at least for a short time.
Kabuto: Why is it that you want me to come with you?!
Orochimaru: Because you are special (he says once more whilst licking his face). You have unique chakra, I noticed this the first time I met you and you may even have a kekkai genkai that you are not aware of. I wish to do some tests on you and learn the nature of your...uniqueness.
Kabuto: Tests.
Orochimaru: kukuku, nothing too painful I assure you and I promise you won't be permanently harmed in any way... so what is your decision Kabuto.
Kabuto stands up and drys his eyes. he puts on his glasses once more and resolve shows on his face.
Kabuto: Tell me everything you know.
Orochimaru: kukuku as you desire. your first question was whether your mother was still on that mission you heard about 5 years ago. The answer is yes, the original intel your mother managed to procure was excellent but lacking, it required your mother to stay here much longer than anticipated.
Orochimaru completely comes out of the water and snakes his way towards Kabuto's right side and whispers in his ear.
Orochimaru: Your second question was, do i know who killed her. The answer is yes but if you don't mind i'll tell you who it was at the end.
Orochimaru snakes around Kabuto to his other side and stands straight.
Orochimaru: It seems that there is a lot you don't know about your mother because your third question was why did your mother not recognise you. The reason is because of you mothers special abilty.
Kabuto:??
Orochimaru: It is for this reason why your mother was so valued by root, why Danzou did something as risky as to threaten her in front of witnesses and also the reason why she was given the title of The Walking Maiden.
Kabuto:...
Orochimaru: Your mother had the ability to completely wipe her memory.
Kabuto:!!!
Orochimaru: actually that is wrong, she had a special ability to seal all her memories for a predetermined time and replace them. She could give herself instructions before sealing her memories to help guide her and also fabricate a false personality and life about herself which even she would beleive is the truth.
Kabuto:...i...don't understand.
Orochimaru: What made her ability so special was that it was something that was imposible to break, notice, or even be aware that it ever existed. The best and most elite ninja in Root have tried to break it or find flaws with it or even to sense it and never once met with success.
Kabuto:...
Orochimaru: Your mother was the perfect spy because she could walk into any village in the world and work her way up to her desired destination. And even if those places were of high level security, she could be searched, probed, interrogated and tortured as much as possible and still nothing would be found. This was why she was known as the Walking Maiden. A woman with the ability to go anywhere she wished without alerting anyone to her true motives.
Kabuto falls to his knees
Kabuto: I see...it is more perfect than the genjutsu of a sharingan because that can be revealed once the disruption in chakra is noticed. It is also more perfect than the mind body technique of the Yamanaka clan for the same reason.
Orochimaru: You are bright kukuku, yes it was a technique that could only be used on one's self and it was a flawless technique. Her original memories would return at whatever time she'd set, she could then pass on any intel she chose and activate her technique once more. The only way that technique could be broken is if somebody chose to betray her.
Kabuto:!!! are you saying my mother was betrayed?!
Orochimaru: Yes she was betrayed, would you like to know who betrayed her?
Kabuto: Who!!
Orochimaru slides over to kabuto's side once more and whispers in his ear.
Orochimaru: It was Danzou!
Kabuto:!!!
Orchimaru: Danzou got all the information he required for this mission. He also knew your mother was a liablitly knowing many of his plans and schemes yet not being able to kill her emotions and commit to Root. Danzou felt his hold was slipping on her so he chose to sacrifice her. He sent in Root ninja to take care of her.
Kabuto:!!!
Orochimaru: She died in a village not her own, with memories not her own. She will be buried by people who don't really know her. Her children, her friends will never know what it was she did for them.
Kabuto:...
Orochimaru: To die far away from home is the fate of all spies...but she... she died with nothing...not even with the ability to say goodbye to the people she loved.
Tears appear on Kabuto's face along with anger and rage! He screams into the air venting it all. As his rage and scream die down Orochimaru speaks once more.
Orochimaru: I have abandoned the hidden leaf. This is the current truth of the shinobi world Kabuto. This is all there is, this is how easily blood is spilt and how easily things are forgotten.
Orochimaru walks over to Kabuto and crouches down, he lifts Kabuto’s chin with his finger and makes him look into his eyes.
Orochimaru: I wish to change this world Kabuto and for that I will need you! I will understand the secrets behind all jutsu and change this world into one where no one is left with nothing.
Kabuto:...left with nothing...
Orochimaru: Come with me Kabuto, let us change this world together... even if we must destroy it first!!!
The scene changes back to the present with Kabuto facing off against Itachi and Sasuke, We see a close up of Kabuto’s face manic with glee
Kabuto: From the very start I had nothing, I always followed the dreams of others. Now I shall fulfill the dreams I and Orochimaru sama dreamed together!!!
Next Week: Naruto 585 – The Snake Lives on
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For those of you still complaining U_U Here's examples:
Freddy Kruger
Imagine watching Nightmare on Elm Street. And you never find out why Freddy's Face is so f*cked up or why he has a right hand with blades on. That is not a movie then. Because a movie has a plot/story. A Good story has a backround. Hence why they show you Freddy being like a pedophile and the angry mob burning his house with him in it.
Jason Voorhees
Image watching Friday the 13th. And you never find out why Jason's Face is so f*cked up or why he walks around with a Machete using Flying Thunder God to slaughter teenagers having premarital ***. That is not a movie then. Because a movie has a plot/story. A Good story has a backround. Hence why they show you Jason being drowned at Camp Crystal Lake while the life guard was having premarital *** and him seeing his mother being killed with a Machete.
I hope this got through to everyone
Freddy Kruger
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Imagine watching Nightmare on Elm Street. And you never find out why Freddy's Face is so f*cked up or why he has a right hand with blades on. That is not a movie then. Because a movie has a plot/story. A Good story has a backround. Hence why they show you Freddy being like a pedophile and the angry mob burning his house with him in it.
Jason Voorhees
You must be registered for see images
Image watching Friday the 13th. And you never find out why Jason's Face is so f*cked up or why he walks around with a Machete using Flying Thunder God to slaughter teenagers having premarital ***. That is not a movie then. Because a movie has a plot/story. A Good story has a backround. Hence why they show you Jason being drowned at Camp Crystal Lake while the life guard was having premarital *** and him seeing his mother being killed with a Machete.
I hope this got through to everyone
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