Sasuke/Gaara blocking Amaratsu

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Ok for starter i want to get to a subject that i thought people actually understood but it seems that only some people actually do.

Gaara can and also can not block Amaratsu.

To clear what i am saying up is that in the manga sasuke used enton to attack gaara. Enton is the manipulated amaratsu flames. People don't seem to understand what that means. The fact that it was manipulated flames that were already existent means two major things, that:

That the Amaratsu flames and Enton are 1 in the same. They are the exact same fire and that Amaratsu was no aimed directly from the eye at gaara. Since gaara blocked Enton, that means his sand is physically capable of withstanding an attack of amaratsu. This does not mean it can block amaratsu though. Gaara's sand does not have the speed to dodge amaratsu. I say this because, Amaratsu forms where the User is looking. Amaratsu does not travel from the eye until it hits the target.
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You see how the vision is getting closer and closer without the amaratsu flames being present. This is showing where sasuke is looking from sasuke's point of view and he would see the amaratsu flames in his vision if they were there. That swirl is also showing the location of where the flames will forum getting more direct to form in a certain area.

Many will argue this manga picture:
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We all know that itachi never had the intention to kill sasuke. While using this technque he was attempting to burn off his wing, the last remaining one he had gotten rid of the other one before that if you guys remember clearly. Itachi could have killed sasuke by just looking at him but since sasuke was in motion looking at his wing was difficult he evenually caught him though. Itachi looked towards the wing not him and tried looking at it while sasuke was in motion.

Now to address Raikage Dodging it:
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It was forming where raikage was it was not shooting. The dash lines around the flame might make it look as if he was shooting it at him but it was making a detail of how and where sasuke was focusing like it did in the picture i have with killer bee. Raikage moved from where it was forming to prevent being hit by the flames he didnt dodged amaratsu that was being shot at him just moving from where it was forming which is still a dodge. Gaara's sand is far from being on Par with Raikage's speed and since we only have proof that someone At Raikage speed or higher can avoid the attack we can not say gaaras sand can block it.

and to address sasuke alone when the **** did they mention sasuke having a ****ing amaratsu sword cause i dont remember it, of u see it just link the manga page.
 

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well gaara has a sand cloak so it doesnt matter :/
 

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When he killed zetsu. It looked like amaterasu sword.

Not trying to rude but what's the point of this thread? Gaara could just form a sand wall or cover himself in layers of sand. He doesn't have to keep up with it.
 

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Ok for starter i want to get to a subject that i thought people actually understood but it seems that only some people actually do.

Gaara can and also can not block Amaratsu.

To clear what i am saying up is that in the manga sasuke used enton to attack gaara. Enton is the manipulated amaratsu flames. People don't seem to understand what that means. The fact that it was manipulated flames that were already existent means two major things, that:

That the Amaratsu flames and Enton are 1 in the same. They are the exact same fire and that Amaratsu was no aimed directly from the eye at gaara. Since gaara blocked Enton, that means his sand is physically capable of withstanding an attack of amaratsu. This does not mean it can block amaratsu though. Gaara's sand does not have the speed to dodge amaratsu. I say this because, Amaratsu forms where the User is looking. Amaratsu does not travel from the eye until it hits the target.
Example:
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You see how the vision is getting closer and closer without the amaratsu flames being present. This is showing where sasuke is looking from sasuke's point of view and he would see the amaratsu flames in his vision if they were there. That swirl is also showing the location of where the flames will forum getting more direct to form in a certain area.

Many will argue this manga picture:
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We all know that itachi never had the intention to kill sasuke. While using this technque he was attempting to burn off his wing, the last remaining one he had gotten rid of the other one before that if you guys remember clearly. Itachi could have killed sasuke by just looking at him but since sasuke was in motion looking at his wing was difficult he evenually caught him though. Itachi looked towards the wing not him and tried looking at it while sasuke was in motion.

Now to address Raikage Dodging it:
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It was forming where raikage was it was not shooting. The dash lines around the flame might make it look as if he was shooting it at him but it was making a detail of how and where sasuke was focusing like it did in the picture i have with killer bee. Raikage moved from where it was forming to prevent being hit by the flames he didnt dodged amaratsu that was being shot at him just moving from where it was forming which is still a dodge. Gaara's sand is far from being on Par with Raikage's speed and since we only have proof that someone At Raikage speed or higher can avoid the attack we can not say gaaras sand can block it.

and to address sasuke alone when the **** did they mention sasuke having a ****ing amaratsu sword cause i dont remember it, of u see it just link the manga page.

cant remember the page number but he was holding a arrow like a sword which i guess still counts :shrug:
 

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I don't believe gaara's sand can block amaterasu... enton yes, But it depends..

If it can sense danger and close up before amaterasu is shot, then no..

but if it tries covering gaara when amaterasu is already being executed, hell no, it's not that fast.. never was..
Part 1 his sand got blitzed by sasuke and lee with who had like 3's and 4's in speed.. , there's no way it can block amaterasu when that's like a 9




When he killed zetsu. It looked like amaterasu sword.

Not trying to rude but what's the point of this thread? Gaara could just form a sand wall or cover himself in layers of sand. He doesn't have to keep up with it.
I believe that was his complete susanno , with his susanno bow and arrow, and amaterasu arrows..

Sasuke's weapons isn't shield/sword
 

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Well... Where from where did u get those info. about Enton? o-o
 

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I don't believe gaara's sand can block amaterasu... enton yes, But it depends..

If it can sense danger and close up before amaterasu is shot, then no..

but if it tries covering gaara when amaterasu is already being executed, hell no, it's not that fast.. never was..
Part 1 his sand got blitzed by sasuke and lee with who had like 3's and 4's in speed.. , there's no way it can block amaterasu when that's like a 9





I believe that was his complete susanno , with his susanno bow and arrow, and amaterasu arrows..

Sasuke's weapons isn't shield/sword

Dude rocklee had 4 for speed part 1 just checked his stats and as for sasuke pt 1 yes his shit was 3 but he used sharingan to increase it by copying rocklee speed now with that being said do u forget that rocklee when took weights off is even faster (base already 4 5 is being highest) gaara sand from part 1 was at even terms with it rocklee gates (I think 4) was even faster then that now true it didn't protect him well(the sand) but as u read the manga or watch the anime the sand is chaseing both him and gaara witch is pretty impressive speed it's right behind rocklee gates (when showing flashback on how gaara made sand clone to negate lee hidden lotas). Now I Dnt know why in chunin exam it shows sasuke as being ultra fast when he should only hav speed as fast as lee with weights off but that's plot no jutsu for u .... That sasuke was supposedly faster then rocklee (judging on how fast he was going) idk sasuke main charecter so he had to win against bad guy (witch he really didn't cuz got ass handed to him by pretend formation gaara
 

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Dude rocklee had 4 for speed part 1 just checked his stats and as for sasuke pt 1 yes his shit was 3 but he used sharingan to increase it by copying rocklee speed now with that being said do u forget that rocklee when took weights off is even faster (base already 4 5 is being highest) gaara sand from part 1 was at even terms with it rocklee gates (I think 4) was even faster then that now true it didn't protect him well(the sand) but as u read the manga or watch the anime the sand is chaseing both him and gaara witch is pretty impressive speed it's right behind rocklee gates (when showing flashback on how gaara made sand clone to negate lee hidden lotas). Now I Dnt know why in chunin exam it shows sasuke as being ultra fast when he should only hav speed as fast as lee with weights off but that's plot no jutsu for u .... That sasuke was supposedly faster then rocklee (judging on how fast he was going) idk sasuke main charecter so he had to win against bad guy (witch he really didn't cuz got ass handed to him by pretend formation gaara

sasuke never copied rock lee's speed .. wtf are you talking about...
you can't copy speed with sharingan -_-

sasuke copied lee's taijutsu... trained his speed with kakashi in the mountains or w.e


and i knw lee was a 4, sasuke a 3 speed.. and gaara's sand still got blitzed..

and no, from the manga, the sand couldn't keep up at all.. and these are 12 year olds... when ninjas now a days have 5 etc, wth?
 

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You're right, it wasn't Amaterasu, but just how fast is Sasuke's enton? Is there even a difference in speed when compared to Amaterasu? There's really no sure-shot way to tell. Both appear to be instant from what I can see (at least in the manga). Look at this screen.

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The flames clearly appear in an instant without Sasuke even having to look in it's direction. But in other cases we can actually see it move, for example this screen.

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Clearly there are different types of manipulation, and activation of the black flames. So to say that an enton is without a doubt slower than Amaterasu isn't entirely true. As for Gaara's sand being slower than the Raikage, how do you explain this?

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Inches away from attacking Sasuke, Gaara was able to block the Raikage in V2 while standing several meters OUTSIDE of the crater. That was not sand from the ground either, it was sand from his gourd which he manipulated. In the screen after that you can see him bringing it back. If you can give me an explanation for that without blurting out, "plot no jutsu" feel free to try.
 
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Gaara now i believe can block Enton no prob he did it multiple times
Now just watch anime again he focused and. Created new flames at gaara shoulder and face/eye those were amaterasu
Ok so yes
I believe gaara can block both amaterasu and Enton
Ppl watch fight over again
 

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sasuke never copied rock lee's speed .. wtf are you talking about...
you can't copy speed with sharingan -_-

sasuke copied lee's taijutsu... trained his speed with kakashi in the mountains or w.e


and i knw lee was a 4, sasuke a 3 speed.. and gaara's sand still got blitzed..

and no, from the manga, the sand couldn't keep up at all.. and these are 12 year olds... when ninjas now a days have 5 etc, wth?

Lee's level of taijutsu is threw his speed that's why he has that stance even Kakashi said it he copied lee when e was talking to gai and gai and lee was thinking to them selves on how long it took lee to get that fast and sasuke did it in a month he copied lee technique well obviously he wouldn't b able to do it in the speed he had during the chunin exams or are u forgetting when weighted lee (with the weights on) pawned sasuke?
 

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You're right, it wasn't Amaterasu, but just how fast is Sasuke's enton? Is there even a difference in speed when compared to Amaterasu? There's really no sure-shot way to tell. Both appear to be instant from what I can see (at least in the manga). Look at this screen.

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The flames clearly appear in an instant without Sasuke even having to look in it's direction. But in other cases we can actually see it move, for example this screen.

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Clearly there are different types of manipulation, and activation of the black flames. So to say that an enton is without a doubt slower than Amaterasu isn't entirely true. As for Gaara's sand being slower than the Raikage, how do you explain this?

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Inches away from attacking Sasuke, Gaara was able to block the Raikage in V2 while standing several meters OUTSIDE of the crater. That was not sand from the ground either, it was sand from his gourd which he manipulated. In the screen after that you can see him bringing it back. If you can give me an explanation for that without blurting out, "plot no jutsu" feel free to try.

What sasuke covered himself in was amaratsu. Thats why it was so quick let me explain. The enton is like he used amaratsu around susanoo and then flung the flames that were on his susano'o at gaara or the flames on the floor being flung at gaara. Amaratsu is when it is being created where the user is looking. Amaratsu appears like how kamui does, there is no distance it travels it appears at what the user is looking/concentrating on thats the different in speed. Amaratsu has no distance to travel it just appears. Like i showed in the manga as if it was forming where Raikage was he moved because he had that speed. It was not shot at him
 
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