Is Naruto to supposed to lose Kurama?

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Now hear me out on this theory. I found 3 previous threads similar but they were simply "Naruto should get stronger on his own, kyubi is cheap" ect kinda threads.

Starting out, "And one day, you will all become one." This is spoken by so6p himself. SO6P is the closest character in naruto we can trust that is not lying, at this point we've even learned not to fully trust tobi because more of his stories are proven untrue. So lets say the Juubi is 100% guarenteed to be remade.

in this and the following 3 to 5 pages Tobi tells us his moons eye plan and about the Juubi. The sacred rock of the Uchiha (read the early pages of the link just given for info on the rock) needs a mangekyo sharingan to read it, and rinnengan to read and decipher it even further. Ask yourself this then

Why did Tobi need the rinnegan back from nagato?
He already read the stone (or else he would have never started this plan, akatsuki, ect) Lets look at one specific line...or two.

and

Now read tobi's middle left dialog box about wanting sasuke to "train his eyes" and that he "would not let such rare eyes go to waste"
Now read the latest link "Naruto is a pawn to stimulate sasuke" Again tobi is wanting to use sasuke, to have him "pushed further" so to speak.
These 2 links show Tobi is wanting to use Sasuke for his sharingan development. Which is why if you look at the scene when tobi lays him on the table and prepared to implant itachis eyes into him you see extra sharingan stored.

Tobi will let sasuke "cultivate" his EMS to its maximum and will take it back just as he did nagato. Rather or not Tobi achieved Rinnegan before giving it to nagato or not, Nagato perfected it to the best of his ability. Sasuke is going to be no diffrerent. It is possible he is attempting to recreate the actual eyes of the SO6P.

So we know
1) Juubi will be formed and tobi will attempt (key word) to be its host.
2) He's trying to aquire the best "eyes" to mimic the SO6P.
3)Naruto will have to lose Kurama for this to happen, Juubi can not be formed unless kurama is taken. (don't give me that "Tobi has half of kuramas chakra already" statement, then why would tobi waste all this time in this war then?)
4)Naruto is stated to, more than likely, be the child of prophecy. (We are reading "Naruto" after all, we know where this is going...) So he will be the "body" of SO6P, and the one favored.

so here is the theory in a nutshell
Tobi is cultivating a (as advanced as he believes) rinnegan eye and Sharingan eye (sasukes/ itachis old eyes) to achieve the eye powers or SO6P for his moon eye plan. Through plot no jutsu Naruto will lose the kyubi. Tobi will attempt to become the host for the juubi and either Succeed where as Naruto/sasuke team up and defeat him and act much like the "hashirama and madara" of the leaf, but in a newer sence....
OR Tobi will be unfit to be the host, only SO6P or the "Child of destiny" will be able to host the Juubi.
Either or, naruto will eventually no longer be using kuramas chakra and all these" Trials and burdens" Naruto has gone through will be his true power. much like how Gaara is stronger now after losing the ichibi.
(If naruto becomes juubi host or not is not the point of this theory though, merely the fact that soon he will be flying solo, so to speak)

Thoughts?
 

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not bad, sounds possible, we'll see... so your point - tobi wants to use naruto's body?
 

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naruto will die if kurama is extracted from him. The series is named Naruto, naruto isnt going to die
 

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not bad, sounds possible, we'll see... so your point - tobi wants to use naruto's body?

No tobi's arrogant and wants sasuke for the eyes and naruto for the kyubi. According to Tobi, see link provided earlier Naruto has 1 purpouse, to push sasukes eye development. Tobi doesn't see naruto as the body. Naruto is just another junchuriki to him.

the main point is Naruto will have to rely on his skills alone (or with friends/aid) but no kurama at some point.
 

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naruto will die if kurama is extracted from him. The series is named Naruto, naruto isnt going to die

A normal Jinchuriki yes, but as you stated the series is named Naruto. Plot no jutsu will somehow have him live (like gaara did through being brought back to life, or possibly even surviving through kishis "magic")
But we are reading "naruto" and the Juubi will be created so naruto will at some point (voluntarily or otherwise) lose Kurama.
 

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rly nice theory, i agree with u ...naruto gotta lose kyuubi, however he wont die... due to his uzumaki blood perhaps... +rep btw
 

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A normal Jinchuriki yes, but as you stated the series is named Naruto. Plot no jutsu will somehow have him live (like gaara did through being brought back to life, or possibly even surviving through kishis "magic")
But we are reading "naruto" and the Juubi will be created so naruto will at some point (voluntarily or otherwise) lose Kurama.

Thats cool and everything, but this is basically just your opinion of how you think the story should go.
 

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+Rep on the theory.

And Naruto may not die if Kurama is extracted. Kushina didn't die instantly. Maybe Naruto will have the endurance to survive like she did, and may live through it and not die.
 

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Yes, eventually he will die :)

lol love this. He is an Uzumaki<- this doesn't make him invincible, it just means that it will take a longer time for him to die after 'beast' extraction. But since we're all dishing out theories; I think Naruto will die via Bijuu extraction and Sasuke will awaken Reningan in anger, guilt and pain, he will use Reningan to revive Naruto :D
 

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Thats cool and everything, but this is basically just your opinion of how you think the story should go.

A theory is ones idea of how they think something will play out, and the main basis as to why I say he will lose the kyubi is SO6P telling the biju they they will all be remade into their original form. I take SO6P words as the closest thing to truth in this manga, way over tobi or anyone else.
 

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A theory is ones idea of how they think something will play out, and the main basis as to why I say he will lose the kyubi is SO6P telling the biju they they will all be remade into their original form. I take SO6P words as the closest thing to truth in this manga, way over tobi or anyone else.

but a much more plausible answer would be for tobi to use all the chakra from the other beasts in the final battle with naruto and naruto takes the tailed beasts after winning, thus, reviving the jubi inside of himself. That takes away all of the "naruto will die and then magically be brought back to life" nonsense
 

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but a much more plausible answer would be for tobi to use all the chakra from the other beasts in the final battle with naruto and naruto takes the tailed beasts after winning, thus, reviving the jubi inside of himself. That takes away all of the "naruto will die and then magically be brought back to life" nonsense

but for tobi to use the chakra from all the tailed beasts...he would need kuramas.
Explain please (im serious, not condescending, just confused) as to how tobi would use the juubi while naturo still had kurama inside him.

And to ambriel, lol you just hate me cause I bash your sasuke fanboy "vs" threads.
 

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but for tobi to use the chakra from all the tailed beasts...he would need kuramas.
Explain please (im serious, not condescending, just confused) as to how tobi would use the juubi while naturo still had kurama inside him.

And to ambriel, lol you just hate me cause I bash your sasuke fanboy "vs" threads.

not really, he can seal whatever chakra he has stored in the gedo maizo inside himself, and he doesnt necessarily need all of kurama. He took the amber purifying pot (with the kurama chakra from the gold and silver brothers) for a reason. He obviously has a back up plan
 

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Good theory, but remember the naruto 6 movie coming out too so if the hype about that movie is wrong (It takes place in an alternate dimension) than that means Naruto and Tobi will fight and Kishi will somehow incoorparate that with the manga/anime. I think Tobi will revive Juubi but in some other way without 9 tails but with the 8 tails without killing bee(Kishi said he's very fond of Bee).
 

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Now hear me out on this theory. I found 3 previous threads similar but they were simply "Naruto should get stronger on his own, kyubi is cheap" ect kinda threads.

Starting out, "And one day, you will all become one." This is spoken by so6p himself. SO6P is the closest character in naruto we can trust that is not lying, at this point we've even learned not to fully trust tobi because more of his stories are proven untrue. So lets say the Juubi is 100% guarenteed to be remade.

in this and the following 3 to 5 pages Tobi tells us his moons eye plan and about the Juubi. The sacred rock of the Uchiha (read the early pages of the link just given for info on the rock) needs a mangekyo sharingan to read it, and rinnengan to read and decipher it even further. Ask yourself this then

Why did Tobi need the rinnegan back from nagato?
He already read the stone (or else he would have never started this plan, akatsuki, ect) Lets look at one specific line...or two.

and

Now read tobi's middle left dialog box about wanting sasuke to "train his eyes" and that he "would not let such rare eyes go to waste"
Now read the latest link "Naruto is a pawn to stimulate sasuke" Again tobi is wanting to use sasuke, to have him "pushed further" so to speak.
These 2 links show Tobi is wanting to use Sasuke for his sharingan development. Which is why if you look at the scene when tobi lays him on the table and prepared to implant itachis eyes into him you see extra sharingan stored.

Tobi will let sasuke "cultivate" his EMS to its maximum and will take it back just as he did nagato. Rather or not Tobi achieved Rinnegan before giving it to nagato or not, Nagato perfected it to the best of his ability. Sasuke is going to be no diffrerent. It is possible he is attempting to recreate the actual eyes of the SO6P.

So we know
1) Juubi will be formed and tobi will attempt (key word) to be its host.
2) He's trying to aquire the best "eyes" to mimic the SO6P.
3)Naruto will have to lose Kurama for this to happen, Juubi can not be formed unless kurama is taken. (don't give me that "Tobi has half of kuramas chakra already" statement, then why would tobi waste all this time in this war then?)
4)Naruto is stated to, more than likely, be the child of prophecy. (We are reading "Naruto" after all, we know where this is going...) So he will be the "body" of SO6P, and the one favored.

so here is the theory in a nutshell
Tobi is cultivating a (as advanced as he believes) rinnegan eye and Sharingan eye (sasukes/ itachis old eyes) to achieve the eye powers or SO6P for his moon eye plan. Through plot no jutsu Naruto will lose the kyubi. Tobi will attempt to become the host for the juubi and either Succeed where as Naruto/sasuke team up and defeat him and act much like the "hashirama and madara" of the leaf, but in a newer sence....
OR Tobi will be unfit to be the host, only SO6P or the "Child of destiny" will be able to host the Juubi.
Either or, naruto will eventually no longer be using kuramas chakra and all these" Trials and burdens" Naruto has gone through will be his true power. much like how Gaara is stronger now after losing the ichibi.
(If naruto becomes juubi host or not is not the point of this theory though, merely the fact that soon he will be flying solo, so to speak)

Thoughts?


^^^ Naruto will still have KM, The chakra he took from kurama is his forever. The chakra Naruto was using his chakra from when he first started to train with Bee until when he started to work with Kurama.

If Naruto lose Kurama and die then I can see Tsunade sacraficing her life to revive him like in Gaara's case. I'm pretty sure reviving the juubi will take time just like how extracting a bijuu from a Jinchuuriki takes time depending on how much chakra the Bijuu has and the amount of chakra Tobi can use to extract the Bijuu. Naruto can use this time to train and get stronger.
 

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A theory is ones idea of how they think something will play out, and the main basis as to why I say he will lose the kyubi is SO6P telling the biju they they will all be remade into their original form. I take SO6P words as the closest thing to truth in this manga, way over tobi or anyone else.

I read a different translation that suggested that he meant they will be as one, not that they will be re-merged. I find it hard to believe that we spent all that time observing the developing relationship between Naruto and Kurama, learning about the other Bijuu, finding their names - only to have them all destroyed to create some horrible monster that even the So6P could see no redeeming qualities in.

So I don't believe the Juubi will be recreated. Instead, I think that Naruto will teach humans and Bijuu a different way of living together in peace.
 
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