Bloodline Limits and Heritage: A clearer view

Shin Zangetsu

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Hi guys. I've been lurking this site for a while so I thought why not post a thread I had already made on another site and get views from this large Naruto community. Here goes it has to with kekkei genkai and I believe it's worth the read.

I've always been interested in the mechanics behind Kekkei Genkai and I have some ideas as to how it works. One particular topic seemed to be an active interest among people for a while and that was the issue of why certain KG didn't seem to be passed on. I'll explain that here.

What is Kekkei Genkai? It first important to remember that the bloodline limit is not what you see happening but what causes that particular thing to be expressed. The KG is a gene or a mutation in a particular gene that can result in something atypical in an individual when compared with what is considered the norm in people. I've always found it easier to consider KG as an "extra factor". That way, things tend to make more sense.

Elemental kekkei genkai

In terms of the Elements. Anyone can have a fire and water affinity. They can even use these simultaneously and all you'll get is fire and water mixed together. However, one can possess a KG allowing them to combine both types of chakra (not elements!) to create a new chakra type and subsequently element altogether as can be seen with Boil Release.
Now, what was necessary for it to happen this way? Everything. All of these components were essential to forming the jutsu.
  • The affinity for water,
  • The affinity for fire
  • and finally the gene that allows one to combine them and mold them into something different.
This is very important when you look at elemental KG in comparison with other KG.

Elemental kekkei genkai are very specific

As I've explained above, in order for kekkei genkai, especially elemental one's to be expressed, all factors must be present along with the KG itself. In the above scenario if the person had a KG allowing them to combine fire and water elements but had an affinity for fire and wind, do you think that particular KG would be expressed? The answer is no. KG are rather specific, there is no miracle KG that allows someone to combine elements but rather specific one's that ensure one can express it given the right conditions. This is why Mei cannot express a combination between earth and water despite having those affinities and fire/water and fire/earth combinations. She simply doesn't have that particular KG. Notice how she isn't described as having a single KG but as having two. Because of this specificity, a different KG can combine the same two elements to generate a completely different result. This is shown by those guys "pretending" to use lava release but having completely differing properties (Rubber, Quicklime etc). Personally, I believe Pakura's Shakuton to be a variant fire/water KG. It's also evident in the Kekkei Tota which is simply a KG that wasn't random or hereditary but specifically bred and simply serves to reinforce the point. Onoki's Dust Element is a combination of three different elemental chakras yet outside of it he can only utilize each elemental chakra individually.

Not expressing doesn't mean not having!

The need for all componets to be present can explain why Elemental KG may skip generations.
In such a scenario. Tobirama may have possessed the KG that allowed for Mokuton generation (whether he did or not is irrelevant, this is for the sake of presenting an argument) but he didn't possess all the elemental affinities (namely earth) in order to be able to express Mokuton. The same would go for Hashirama's relatives and descendants, including Tsunade. They might all be "carriers" who simply cannot express the gene but can pass it on to further generations until someone with the right combination appears.

Why then does it differ in this manner between Elemental KG and other KG which rarely, if ever, skip generations such as Uchiha and Hyuuga bloodlines? The answer is it doesn't. Those other KG behave in almost the same way. I'll say it again, as long as all components and/or conditions are present the KG can be expressed. It just so happens that elemental affinity tends to vary more frequently by person even among family members hence the infrequency with which elemental KG are expressed while the other KG require only the adequate human anatomy in order to be expressed. Even then, some like Sharingan require even more complex conditions or stimuli to express further forms.

I hope this was informative and I'd like to hear your views on this.

EDIT: A clearer point came up in a response to another forum member so I'll just add it to the OP to supplement what has already been said.

No I do not believe that works the same way with those other KG. As I said the KG is a peculiar genetic trait or gene and not an ability. The ability is a result of the kekkei genkai and for simplicity sake is often referred to as the KG. For the eye bloodlines, nothing is required but adequate human physiology. Those bloodlines are independent of chakra affinity.
If you have normal eyes, the gene can be expressed.
If you have a normal body the gene can be expressed.
If you meet any other particular requirements such as mental trauma etc, the genes can be expressed.
What's the common denominator here? As long as conditions are met the gene is expressed so think of it this way:

  • With elemental KG the requirements are based around chakra affinity which is highly variable amongst individuals and therefore more erratic resulting in far rarer expressive individuals. They are so rare that they won't even be found in any adequate numbers naturally UNLESS selectively bred which is what many of the other villages have done in order to increase the chances of these individuals appearing and gain better military power.
  • With physical KG the requirements are based around normal human physiology which is faaaaaar less variable (unless you know anybody without eyes, ears etc....) and therefore more stable across generations resulting in a far more frequent expressing group
That's the way I understand it.
 

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teww much tew read yhuu shud have summarize that

ryte to long lol why do people waste there finger linger powers
Somehow I keep stumbling on too many of spam posts from you today. Quit it. If you have nothing to contribute to thread topic refrain from posting.

2 long... bla
Welcome to the base. Read the forum rules now before posting again. It's a discussion section. Be prepared for long posts.

I thought this was the section where people posted theories and other analysis type threads.
Yes. Unfortunately we have some people who find it too much if you make them use their brains.
 
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So if I understood your post right, you're saying that people can carry the gene of an elemental Kekkai Genkai but if certain conditions are not met, they won't express it, but simply keep passing it through the line until someone comes along with the right conditions? At least if I understood your post right :ghehe:
That's a very interesting theory, well thought out. +rep for you!
 

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o cool never thought it was carried down like that, good read REP+

I would double rep you for the Dota 2 Avatar :) You in the beta?
 

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thnx. that makes perfect sense. unlike the others, i actually enjoyed reading this thread, since i have been curious abt kg since they showed neji.
 

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So if I understood your post right, you're saying that people can carry the gene of an elemental Kekkai Genkai but if certain conditions are not met, they won't express it, but simply keep passing it through the line until someone comes along with the right conditions? At least if I understood your post right :ghehe:
That's a very interesting theory, well thought out. +rep for you!
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. You've understood it right.

Yes. Unfortunately we have some people who find it too much if you make them use their brains.
That's unfortunate. I had hoped to find more people interested in good informative topics and debate but it seems redundant tier lists and constantly repeated "who is tobi?" or "Minato>Itachi" are always going to be dominant topics on any naruto forum. :(

o cool never thought it was carried down like that, good read REP+

I would double rep you for the Dota 2 Avatar :) You in the beta?
Still waiting for that key. :(

*Claps*

Bravo!
Bravo!

Damn you really nail it on the head. Mind if I ask what it is that you do for a living?
lol, I don't mind. I deal with computers and networking now but I studied Biochem and some Genetics at university.

thnx. that makes perfect sense. unlike the others, i actually enjoyed reading this thread, since i have been curious abt kg since they showed neji.
Wow, you've been curious about kekkei genkai for so long? Shoulda started a thread to promote discussion and debate. Glad you liked it though. xd
 
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