Minato is actually weaker than a lot of Naruto Characters.

[Koibito]

Sure the yellow flash is one of the fastest shinobis in Narutoverse. However, what he really lacks is a powerful move. So far from what we've seen the strongest weapons in his arsenal are his kunai and the rasengan. Meaning he can get behind his opponent in the blink of an eye and stab 'em with his kunai. This might be quite effective against some of the characters in Naruto. However, this puts Minato in a bad spot against the top tier naruto characters such as the kages, akatsuki members like orochimaru, itachi, pain and Madara Uchiha and Even Biiju Naruto. Rasengan, as we have seen, has been countered thousands of times in naruto. There are so many characters that can simply withstand it. For example, orochimaru can easily withstand a kunai attack or a rasengan thanks to his regenerative abilities. Minato can keep chopping him off all day but he will just keep coming out of his shells. Sage Kabuto is another character that will annihilate minato in terms of feats. Minato can rasengan him all day but he will just keep healing himself. Ninjutsu is useless against edo madara so minato will have to take him down with power moves. The problem is minato doesn't have any. Like he doesn't have any moves that will break the susanoo. Strength is a feat he seems to lack as well. Now I have no doubt in Minato's superior intellect and I can guarantee he will find a way to score a direct hit on any opponent. The only problem is that hit may not be enough to finish off some of the top rank shinobies. And that makes minato a weak match against them. Sure minato can defeat kakashi and the jonins of leaf village and even jiraiya(because he died cause of the chakra rod stab wound from pain minato can stab him too even in sage mode) with his speed. But against some characters with high defenses, hes just useless. Its a shame he had to die so early cause I am sure he would of perfected his rasengan and chakra affinity if he lived but the fact remains, Minato does not have a high power ninja move.

his sealing jutsu are more effective than any super power attack

 

[jnr3000]

with what we have seen so far, the 1st time he fought to kill, he killed a lot of ninja (kakashi gaiden) and the second time he was fighting to save konoha... with the konoha battle, he fought tobi 1st.. the intention was not to kill tobi but rather take kurama out of his control. imo, if he wanted to kill tobi the second ftg would have been a kunai to his heart, rasengan or even his throat could have been slit. he hasnt shown any real finishing moves because plot no jutsu hasn't given him the chance

 

[F1N1X]

Sure the yellow flash is one of the fastest shinobis in Narutoverse. However, what he really lacks is a powerful move. So far from what we've seen the strongest weapons in his arsenal are his kunai and the rasengan. Meaning he can get behind his opponent in the blink of an eye and stab 'em with his kunai. This might be quite effective against some of the characters in Naruto. However, this puts Minato in a bad spot against the top tier naruto characters such as the kages, akatsuki members like orochimaru, itachi, pain and Madara Uchiha and Even Biiju Naruto. Rasengan, as we have seen, has been countered thousands of times in naruto. There are so many characters that can simply withstand it. For example, orochimaru can easily withstand a kunai attack or a rasengan thanks to his regenerative abilities. Minato can keep chopping him off all day but he will just keep coming out of his shells. Sage Kabuto is another character that will annihilate minato in terms of feats. Minato can rasengan him all day but he will just keep healing himself. Ninjutsu is useless against edo madara so minato will have to take him down with power moves. The problem is minato doesn't have any. Like he doesn't have any moves that will break the susanoo. Strength is a feat he seems to lack as well. Now I have no doubt in Minato's superior intellect and I can guarantee he will find a way to score a direct hit on any opponent. The only problem is that hit may not be enough to finish off some of the top rank shinobies. And that makes minato a weak match against them. Sure minato can defeat kakashi and the jonins of leaf village and even jiraiya(because he died cause of the chakra rod stab wound from pain minato can stab him too even in sage mode) with his speed. But against some characters with high defenses, hes just useless. Its a shame he had to die so early cause I am sure he would of perfected his rasengan and chakra affinity if he lived but the fact remains, Minato does not have a high power ninja move.

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[Lt Iceman]

and on the other hand minato would die izanagi won't change that.

Exactly

Well, taking in consideration theat Izanagi costs an Eye, Literally, I don't believe the user will use it recklessly. It is not infinite. You use it twice and your blind/dead unless they have a spare set in their pocket.

Indeed.

But as Minato can take it as far as go suicidal then the opponent too can go as far as sacrifice an eye

before you type pls think, not the other way round how many times can an uchiha (madara) use izanagi? Then ask yourself howmany times minato can seal or teleport, minato only use the flying thunder god tech level 2 to defeat tobi. Put this in your big heads tobi has never been touched so is minato. But minato vs tobi ....who got whacked.....?

But what does this have to do with what I said before.

All I mentioned was that if Minato uses Shiki Fujin the an Izanagi user can bypass it

you talk a lot as if madara had more than two eyes

Wait what it's one eye that is needed to use Izanagi

 

[NotAnyones FanBoy]

agreed
and people saying he has sealing techs: we only know of one and it is at the cost of his life
so at best a draw

 

[sdam]

This thread should actually stop, people have different opinions, and have respect about that. And all that Minato and Nagato should actually stop. Until we see more off minato we can't say for sure, in my opinion going into deep deatail would beat Nagato one on one, but we can't say, have reaspect for ich others opinion

 

[Koibito]

agreed
and people saying he has sealing techs: we only know of one and it is at the cost of his life
so at best a draw

We have only seen him use one but we know for a fact thst he has multiple seals as it has been said in the manga that he has learned and mastered many sealing jutsu, and hell we have even seen him seal an entire TBB and he used the triagram seal to seal the kyuubi in Naruto

 

[jnr3000]

so how do you think minato would outsmart sm kabuto and beat him? Kabuto cant heal in seconds so none of minato's attacks would do any good. Kabuto can simply liquify when hit by kunai and withstand rasengan.

even naruto (with chakra control problems) was able to hit kabuto so hard he was not able to heal himself like he thought he would, and mnd you... that was when naruto began to use the rasengan... then naruto again, hit an edo tensei so hard with a rasengan regeneration was a problem, EDO TENSEI!!
so imagain what minato, originator of the rasengan will do to kabuto, yes he'll heal, but just how many hits can he take, minato doesn't have problems with spamming ftg and rasengan, it takes seconds like we saw against tobi. he can do it over and over again till kabuto can take it no more

 

[jnr3000]

agreed
and people saying he has sealing techs: we only know of one and it is at the cost of his life
so at best a draw

smooth bruh, real smooth... so what will you call what is holding kurama inside naruto? a tattoo?

 

[jnr3000]

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tobi sitting in front of those shinobi with "POWERFUL JUTSUS" like a BOSS
those shinobi's jutsu are WAY WAY WAY huge than the rasengan but what they do? no one dares to attack tobi when they saw raikages failed attemp..


now THE SIMPLE WEAK RASSENGAN ON THE SHOW

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LIKE A BOSS of the BOSS is it?
minato doesnt need to show how powerful he is he just can beat anyone with a simple FTG + RASSENGAN like a BOSS

+rep

 

[CJ Mac]

I don't particularly feel like reading through all of the posts, but there are a few key things that you seem to be forgetting (or intentionally leaving out) about Minato.

1. Minato is the only person thus far to land a serious blow against Tobi. Most shinobi can't even touch the guy, and yet Minato managed to hit him with an attack strong enough to make him leave the battle (and disappear for about 15 years).

2. The rasengan is derived from the tailed beast bomb. Minato is much better at the basic rasengan than Naruto and Jiraya, which means that he can deploy it much faster than they can. Most of the counterattacks we've seen used against Naruto probably wouldn't have worked against Minato. We can only assume its power, speed, etc. based on other people's use of the technique, but it could have been more powerful.

3. Minato was married to an Uzumaki, from a clan of sealing technique masters. I think that it would be safe to assume that he probably picked up a few tricks from Kushina other than the ones that he showed.

4. Minato was considered a genius. As one of Jiraya's students, he likely picked up most of his techniques. Jiraya was also the student of the Third Hokage, with whom Minato work very closely. Minato probably picked up a number of techniques from the Third, as well.

5. Minato was a Hokage. This isn't a title granted lightly. There must have been a reason for him being selected.

I am not saying that Minato is the strongest shinobi, but you need to give him some credit. We have seen very little of his overall abilities compared to the supporting characters in the series, and we don't know what his full capabilities are.

 

[moody2times]

Sure the yellow flash is one of the fastest shinobis in Narutoverse. However, what he really lacks is a powerful move. So far from what we've seen the strongest weapons in his arsenal are his kunai and the rasengan. Meaning he can get behind his opponent in the blink of an eye and stab 'em with his kunai. This might be quite effective against some of the characters in Naruto. However, this puts Minato in a bad spot against the top tier naruto characters such as the kages, akatsuki members like orochimaru, itachi, pain and Madara Uchiha and Even Biiju Naruto. Rasengan, as we have seen, has been countered thousands of times in naruto. There are so many characters that can simply withstand it. For example, orochimaru can easily withstand a kunai attack or a rasengan thanks to his regenerative abilities. Minato can keep chopping him off all day but he will just keep coming out of his shells. Sage Kabuto is another character that will annihilate minato in terms of feats. Minato can rasengan him all day but he will just keep healing himself. Ninjutsu is useless against edo madara so minato will have to take him down with power moves. The problem is minato doesn't have any. Like he doesn't have any moves that will break the susanoo. Strength is a feat he seems to lack as well. Now I have no doubt in Minato's superior intellect and I can guarantee he will find a way to score a direct hit on any opponent. The only problem is that hit may not be enough to finish off some of the top rank shinobies. And that makes minato a weak match against them. Sure minato can defeat kakashi and the jonins of leaf village and even jiraiya(because he died cause of the chakra rod stab wound from pain minato can stab him too even in sage mode) with his speed. But against some characters with high defenses, hes just useless. Its a shame he had to die so early cause I am sure he would of perfected his rasengan and chakra affinity if he lived but the fact remains, Minato does not have a high power ninja move.

To reply as succinct as possible, you can't become an Hokage with just kunai and a rasengan. Your opinion of Minato is not an informed one. You remember that space-time jutsu he used to avert the tailed beast bomb from the village? You know his rasengan is different from that of Naruto who have beaten some ninjas (akatsuki inclusive) with the rasengan. Plus, brains is better than brawn anytime (Shikamaru for instance). Minato so far from what we have seen has never had to use more than the rasengan and FTG to beat his opponents, that is genius. I could go on and on. Orochimaru is said to know lots of techniques, but tell me, how many did we see him use?????

 

[jnr3000]

having talent to BECOME top tier, isn't the same as being top tier..

if i have talent to become a pro gamer, doesn't mean i am a pro gamer ..

so if all he had was talent to become extremely strong, it obviously means at the time, the top tier ninja who were extremely strong would be able to beat him

this is simple
kage = top tier
and minato's talent made him kage, and he was still developing (wasn't in his prime yet) so i dont get your point

 

[Sterling Malory Archer]

Sure the yellow flash is one of the fastest shinobis in Narutoverse. However, what he really lacks is a powerful move. So far from what we've seen the strongest weapons in his arsenal are his kunai and the rasengan. Meaning he can get behind his opponent in the blink of an eye and stab 'em with his kunai. This might be quite effective against some of the characters in Naruto. However, this puts Minato in a bad spot against the top tier naruto characters such as the kages, akatsuki members like orochimaru, itachi, pain and Madara Uchiha and Even Biiju Naruto. Rasengan, as we have seen, has been countered thousands of times in naruto. There are so many characters that can simply withstand it. For example, orochimaru can easily withstand a kunai attack or a rasengan thanks to his regenerative abilities. Minato can keep chopping him off all day but he will just keep coming out of his shells. Sage Kabuto is another character that will annihilate minato in terms of feats. Minato can rasengan him all day but he will just keep healing himself. Ninjutsu is useless against edo madara so minato will have to take him down with power moves. The problem is minato doesn't have any. Like he doesn't have any moves that will break the susanoo. Strength is a feat he seems to lack as well. Now I have no doubt in Minato's superior intellect and I can guarantee he will find a way to score a direct hit on any opponent. The only problem is that hit may not be enough to finish off some of the top rank shinobies. And that makes minato a weak match against them. Sure minato can defeat kakashi and the jonins of leaf village and even jiraiya(because he died cause of the chakra rod stab wound from pain minato can stab him too even in sage mode) with his speed. But against some characters with high defenses, hes just useless. Its a shame he had to die so early cause I am sure he would of perfected his rasengan and chakra affinity if he lived but the fact remains, Minato does not have a high power ninja move.

I completely disagree. And yes I do like Minato a lot, but I still have a brain (Meaning I'm not a fanboy)

With Minato's death, the Third was forced to resume his position as Hokage, a role he filled until his death, never being able to find a replacement of Minato's calibre. Minato himself became regarded as the village's hero and, indeed, one of the greatest ninja Konoha had ever produced

Now, at the bolds:

A powerful enough move is FTG and Rasengan combo. That can really do a number on a person because: It easily catches anyone off guard.

A kunai is enough to kill someone. As seen when Minato took out the majority of the Rock Village's army by himself.

All he needs it to get behind someone with a kunai and they're practically dead. Unless someone has some kind of steel throat that can't be slashed.

Naruto's Rasengan has been countered yes. But as seen when Jiraiya and Minato has used Rasengan, they worked out effectively

Oro needs to be prepared to defend himself, If you catch Oro off guard he can be beaten.

Susanoo has it's weakpoints, Proven by Danzo, So Minato would be able to still be able to defeat a Susanoo user. Relying on powerful Techniques is not the solution. A person who uses normal techniques effectively can beat someone who uses powerful ones non-effectively

Kabuto's Dragon Sage mode hasn't been in the spotlight enough for you to involve it. It defiantly has it's flaws. Kabuto isn't a Broly.

Minato is definatly not a normaly ninja. It's been stated by Kishi many times. Minato Namikaze is one of the greatest ninjas that lived. He has been acknowledged by the Kage of today (e.g. Raikage).​

 

[Owarij]

this is simple
kage = top tier
and minato's talent made him kage, and he was still developing (wasn't in his prime yet) so i dont get your point

Better trans

Here's what Jiraiya has to say about Minato's skill and potential:



He says he had the potential to surpass everyone in history (certainly barring the Sage), hence the word "calibre". Even Tsunade agreed with that statement, but asserted his early death as the culprit of not fully fulfilling said potential.

 

[jnr3000]

what makes minato hard to beat is the fact that, a lot of shinobi know him and his capabilities but they still dont know how to take him out or even counter his moves (ftg + rasengan especially)

 

[Pepsilover]

Reaper death seal is a suicide move so it won't be Minato's win. Plus he can not kill someone with Izanagi, Inanazi would cause Minato to die but his victim would live.

That is simply not true. Izanagi effects the user and he is able to come back alive and make new awesome jutsu, but it does not kill on sight.

Tobi might have had Izanagi when he fought Minato.

Izanagi is a last resort move and you don't want to use it unless you have to.

Minato defeated Tobi and released his control over kurama before that was even a option.


Just think how would you fight a guy like Minato? How would you use Izanagi to kill him?

You have to be pretty clever and if you fail, you have just lost your eye!

 

[Evo Naruto]

Okay, I wish people would stop with these threads about Minato being weaker/stronger than someone. Because, in most cases, it's not possible to tell and you're just over-exagerating/under-exagerating his power.

This is something that hardly any fanboy realizes and it's the fact that Minato is an incomplete character. The only thing we've seen from him is his Rasengan, FTG, and how fast he is. Also how smart he is and his sensor abilities. AFAIK, we have NEVER seen what kind of element(s) he uses (if any) and anything else he may have. I wish people would realize this and quit it with these threads -.-

 

[Guardian of the Rain]

seems to be extremely inteligent aswell

dude what anime is your sig from? looks freaking sick

 

[TheFifthMizukage]

Minato is on par with Tobi, It's not about the weapons but how you use them.