Analysis: Who the manga says is the strongest Hokage...

[Ryuu..]

Hashirama, was, will be and is the strongest Hokage, that was clearly said and proven not one time, Hiruzen would get raped by Hashirama Senju, same goes with Madara and Kurama.

This is why this f*cking forum is dying. If you'd have read the OP you would've clearly seen me disprove everything you just said. Everything. This will be my last reply to you because your nonsense replies are actually taking the piss.

 

[sVPunisher]

Just so you know at the beginning, Kabuto didn't call him the strongest Hokage. He called him the strongest of the 5 current kages. I stopped reading after that because it's flawed. I do agree he's the strongest but you messed up.

 

[MadaraHashirama]

Wow, I didn't expected to see such a fail from you Ryuu.. Seriously what the heck ? Kishi called not one and not two shinobies the strongest ones.. Also Kishi changes the titles every chapter, so.. Hiruzen was called the strongest Hokage when there weren't any Senju abilities or Uchiha. He was strongest in part 1, now he's not even in top 5 of kages.

Can't believe I'd ever agree with you, but I agree.

 

[The Eye]

i disagree with your very first picture. kabuto clearly says that the hokage was the strongest out of the 5 kages. Dont get confused.
Besides in that time there wasnt a fif hokage yet so they were still only 4. so where did you get that number from?

 

[Sageofthepath]

The databooks derive from the manga. It is you who does not understand.

i do

and you don't

Databook is a resume of characters reputation, statement in the manga about them.

Nothing says it's the absolute truth it's all about perception...maybe except the stats kishi give them

 

[natssuu]

Things have changed. In the start of Naruto, Kishi decided that Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage, but as the time passed by and Hashirama became a big part of the series, he changed his mind and not only made Hashirama the strongest Kage, but made his power compareable to SO6P's. That's how I see it.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

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wonder why dan did not list hiruzen...

 

[Ryuu..]

Things have changed. In the start of Naruto, Kishi decided that Hiruzen is the strongest Hokage, but as the time passed by and Hashirama became a big part of the series, he changed his mind and not only made Hashirama the strongest Kage, but made his power compareable to SO6P's. That's who I see it.

Where is your proof?

 

[slashestranged]

Why don't you read the whole thread with all the points before you post garbage. More characters than just Kabuto said this.

there was too much fail in your first point so i stopped reading

 

[Ryuu..]

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wonder why dan did not list hiruzen...

I don't know, why don't you give me your opinion?

 

[Ryuu..]

there was too much fail in your first point so i stopped reading

Then you can remain ignorant and uneducated on the matter for the rest of your days.

 

[The Riddlerr]

i do

and you don't

Databook is a resume of characters reputation, statement in the manga about them.

Nothing says it's the absolute truth it's all about perception...maybe except the stats kishi give them

The Databooks list everything about a character that the Manga can't. That's why they're full of things like their History and Hobbies, Abilities and other random things which would never be listed in the Manga.

They're written by Kishimoto specifically for the Manga, and they're just as much fact as the Manga is. The actual line for the strength of evidence would go: Manga > Databook > Anime.

 

[Prince Charles]

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wonder why dan did not list hiruzen...

ryuu is my boy but i somewhat agree with this dan only mentioned hashirama. if hiruzen is indeed the strongest of the hokage's then he should of said hiruzen

 

[MrLukyso]

I don't know, why don't you give me your opinion?

Because only Hashirama, the strongest Kage of all time can stop Madara, not a hiruzen like you say.. But DAN doesn't know that Madara has Rinnegan so, even a Hashi can't stop him now.. ;/ :sy:

 

[natssuu]

Where is your proof?

That's how I see it*

But yeah, Hiruzen was hyped at the start of the series, but it stopped as the time passed by and now Hashirama is hyped even more Hiruzen was.

 

[MadaraHashirama]

In Part 1 everything was different, Uchiha's weren't so OP'd and stuff, but it seems that still some people overlook that, because if in Part 1 someone said Byakugan is the strongest Doujutsu and in Part 2 we get introduced into Mangekyou Sharingan, Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, does that fact still remain?
While Hashirama ended the whole ****ing war, he founded Konoha, he tamed Bijuu's like pets and he fought the Strongest Uchiha ATLEAST on equal term (he could've been stronger high likely)
Tobirama is a genius and he's the one who created Edo Tensei, Orochimaru just stole it and completed it, without Tobirama Madara wouldn't be walking around right now so strong and neither would this war be so intense.
What did Hiruzen do in Part 2? He wasn't even mentioned ONCE, NEVER again was he mentioned as the strongest or whatever, the only thing he's done is watching the Kyuubi with fear while waiting on Minato, a very young person who had to sacrefice his life, Hiruzen is a cocky old shit.
Minato has done everything, fought Tobi, removed Kyuubi from Tobi's control, teleport Kyuubi's Bijuu Bomb away, sealed Kyuubi.
In my eyes Hiruzen is the most useless and pathethic Kage I've ever seen, even Tsunade is more useful then him.

 

[Tazzilla88]

Does anyone realize while we're calling Hashirama the strongest hokage ever we've only seen four techniques and we're taking the word of a character who seems like he had a man-crush on Hashirama that he was great. This not-withstanding the fact that he probably would never lived to see Hiruzen in his prime as far as we know anyway. And finally I wish people would look past that one flaw and read the rest of the original post. Furthermore Hashirama is Tsunade with Mokuton. Mokuton is not an end all be all element. Otherwise Yamato would be the shit. The Mizukage is great with elements. But she has way more than two (5) Earth, Lava, Fire, Water, Boil. If you take away the Lava fire, and boil you get what the first had. If you add to the that the ability to heal oneself and Tsunade's unenhanced strength that's the first. I say Hiruzen prime was stronger. Hashirama was not a god

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

I don't know, why don't you give me your opinion?

if your refering to the idea that it is just his opinion then you have to understand facts given in naruto through characters are by kishi and are technically the truth. and kabuto's statement can also be a opinion. besides hiruzen would get stoped easily by a bunch of characters now for sure. he just had to much hype with no abilities to back it up.

 

[slashestranged]

not too mention orochimaru killed hiruzen in like 5-10 min

even sasuke could beat orochimaru and at that point he didnt even have ms

 

[Ryuu..]

In Part 1 everything was different, Uchiha's weren't so OP'd and stuff, but it seems that still some people overlook that, because if in Part 1 someone said Byakugan is the strongest Doujutsu and in Part 2 we get introduced into Mangekyou Sharingan, Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, does that fact still remain?
While Hashirama ended the whole ****ing war, he founded Konoha, he tamed Bijuu's like pets and he fought the Strongest Uchiha ATLEAST on equal term (he could've been stronger high likely)
Tobirama is a genius and he's the one who created Edo Tensei, Orochimaru just stole it and completed it, without Tobirama Madara wouldn't be walking around right now so strong and neither would this war be so intense.
What did Hiruzen do in Part 2? He wasn't even mentioned ONCE, NEVER again was he mentioned as the strongest or whatever, the only thing he's done is watching the Kyuubi with fear while waiting on Minato, a very young person who had to sacrefice his life, Hiruzen is a cocky old shit.
Minato has done everything, fought Tobi, removed Kyuubi from Tobi's control, teleport Kyuubi's Bijuu Bomb away, sealed Kyuubi.
In my eyes Hiruzen is the most useless and pathethic Kage I've ever seen, even Tsunade is more useful then him.

All irrelevant and opinion.