4th Shinobi World War Estimations so far!

Lt Iceman

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Basically post your estimations on a certain character or a batch of them with their possible Databook statistics.

Older characters who have already their stats,and have shown more relevant stuff can be of course be posted with their respective stat improvement.

And also characters who don't have a databook entry can also be theorized upon.

Here's my batch
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Uzumaki Naruto

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-4.5
  • Genjutsu-2
  • Intelligence-4
  • Strength-4.5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-2.5

    Total-32.5

Uchia Sasuke

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-3.5
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-4
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-4.5
  • Stamina-4
  • Hand seals-4

    Total-33.5

Gaara

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-2
  • Genjutsu-3.5
  • Intelligence-4.5
  • Strength-2.5
  • Speed-3
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-30.5

Senju Tsunade

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-3.5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-5
  • Speed-3.5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-4

    Total-36

Terumi Mei

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-3.5
  • Genjutsu-3.5
  • Intelligence-4
  • Strength-3
  • Speed-4
  • Stamina-4
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-32

Raikage Ei

  • Ninjutsu-4
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-3
  • Intelligence-3
  • Strength-5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-2

    Total-32

Onoki

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-3.5
  • Genjutsu-3.5
  • Intelligence-4
  • Strength-5
  • Speed-4
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-4

    Total-34

Uchia Itachi

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-3.5
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-37

Yakushi Kabuto

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-4
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-4.5
  • Stamina-4
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-36

Hatake Kakashi

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-4.5
  • Genjutsu-4.5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-4.5
  • Stamina-4
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-36

Tobi

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-3.5
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-4
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-3.5

    Total-34.5

Uchia Madara

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-4.5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-39.5

Might Guy

  • Ninjutsu-3
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-3
  • Intelligence-3.5
  • Strength-5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-2.5

    Total-32

Killer Bee

  • Ninjutsu-4.5
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-3
  • Intelligence-3.5
  • Strength-5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-2.5

    Total-33.5
There are others that I would like to add,but I'm waiting for some input from you guys.
 

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You gave Naruto a 4 in intelligence. I would give him a 3 considering how long it took him to realize that he was on a fake mission.

But everything else looks good
 

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You gave Naruto a 4 in intelligence. I would give him a 3 considering how long it took him to realize that he was on a fake mission.

But everything else looks good

Ah yeah,you have a point if you even consider he used a rasengan on Nagato who he knew could absorb all chakra based attacks.

But I tried not to focus on the negatives and judge from the bigger picture,and overall Naruto showed us some pretty decent in battle intelligence like the combo he pulled of to disable the Naraka path.

But thinking of it it's really too much 4,a 3.5 is more likely
 

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Basically post your estimations on a certain character or a batch of them with their possible Databook statistics.

Older characters who have already their stats,and have shown more relevant stuff can be of course be posted with their respective stat improvement.

And also characters who don't have a databook entry can also be theorized upon.

Here's my batch
:

Uzumaki Naruto

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-4.5 3.5, he has a great strength and speed, but no major Taijutsu Skills.
  • Genjutsu-2
  • Intelligence-4 I would say 3.5, definitely not more.
  • Strength-4.5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-2.5 He hasn't shown any new Jutsus yet, just new Rasenganmoves which don't even need handseals.

    Total-32.5

Uchia Sasuke

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-3.5
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-4 He isn't smarter then he was before against Deidara for example.
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-4.5
  • Stamina-4
  • Hand seals-4

    Total-33.5

Gaara

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-2
  • Genjutsu-3.5
  • Intelligence-4.5
  • Strength-2.5
  • Speed-3
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-5 His old value was 4, since Gaaras techniques aren't varied and based only on his sand, I don't think his Handseals are better now.

    Total-30.5

Senju Tsunade

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-3.5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-5
  • Speed-3.5
  • Stamina-5 Her chakra can't grow by an ordinary way, her seals are a foreign source.
  • Hand seals-4

    Total-36

Terumi Mei

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-3.5
  • Genjutsu-3.5
  • Intelligence-4
  • Strength-3
  • Speed-4
  • Stamina-4
  • Hand seals-5 I wouldn't give her the full score in a area where she hasn't shown much.

    Total-32

Raikage Ei

  • Ninjutsu-4
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-3
  • Intelligence-3
  • Strength-5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-2

    Total-32

Onoki

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-3.5
  • Genjutsu-3.5
  • Intelligence-4
  • Strength-5 5? He's only able to lift huge and heavy objects because of his ability to lighten them. His physical strength is maybe 1.5 to 2.
  • Speed-4
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-4

    Total-34

Uchia Itachi

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-5 He already has excellent Taijutsu skills with a 4.5 score, I don't think his skills have grown since he died against Sasuke and the current databook goes up to his last fight.
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-3.5
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-37

Yakushi Kabuto

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-4
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-4.5
  • Stamina-4
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-36

Hatake Kakashi

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-4.5
  • Genjutsu-4.5 I think it's still 4.
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-4.5
  • Stamina-4 I don't think someones stamina can gow by an ordinary way.
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-36

Tobi

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-3.5
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-4
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-3.5

    Total-34.5

Uchia Madara

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-5 IMO 4.5 just like Itachi.
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-4.5 With Hashiramas DNA only, otherwise 3.5.
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-39.5

Might Guy

  • Ninjutsu-3 His Ninjutsu is according to the old parameter 4.
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-3
  • Intelligence-3.5
  • Strength-5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-2.5

    Total-32

Killer Bee

  • Ninjutsu-4.5
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-3
  • Intelligence-3.5
  • Strength-5
  • Speed-5 I don't think Killerbee is that fast. He wasn't able to keep up with Itachis speed in the manga. I would say 3.5.
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-2.5

    Total-33.5
There are others that I would like to add,but I'm waiting for some input from you guys.

I've answered your spoilers by edit them.
 
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Two Kekkei Kenkais doesn't mean that she has a quantity of handseals. Even if she has two Kekkei Kenkais, it doesn't mean she has more experience or skills in Ninjutsu than someone with one Kekkei Kenkai.
 

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Well why you say madaras strenght 3.5 without Hashiramas DNA ? Rinnegan and EMS is hella strong.

Or it's a brutal strenght ?
 

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Two Kekkei Kenkais doesn't mean that she has a quantity of handseals. Even if she has two Kekkei Kenkais, it doesn't mean she has more experience or skills in Ninjutsu than someone with one Kekkei Kenkai.
I gave her a 5 because of her 2 Kekkei Genkai's.sure it doesn't automatically mean good hand seals but if you factor in the skills required to master those single elements and mold them into a KG,and she has 2 of them,so her skills with elemental attacks which requires hand seals must be nearly perfect.

If you look at the 2 Suitons she used to counter Madara's Katon,you can clearly see she didn't even use hand seals to perform the water dragon technique,which took Zabuza and Kakashi respectively something like 44 hand seals.

That's why I gave her a perfect 5.

Btw I saw your corrections,and I found them really helpful,but at the moment I can't give a proper response as I'm out,but I'll get back on it.

Well why you say madaras strenght 3.5 without Hashiramas DNA ? Rinnegan and EMS is hella strong.

Or it's a brutal strenght ?
The strength aspect of the Databook is akin to brute strength and that only,a character like Sakura who is known for her tremendous strength only has a 3.5 in strength.That because that aspect doesn't consider jutsu enhancement.
 

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Sasuke Uchiha: Past Databook Statistics

1st Databook = 18.5/40
- Ninjutsu: 2.5
- Taijutsu: 2.5
- Genjutsu: 1.5
- Intelligence: 2
- Strength: 2
- Speed: 3
- Stamina: 2
- Hand Seals: 3

2nd Databook = 22.5/40
- Ninjutsu: 3.5
- Taijutsu: 2.5
- Genjutsu: 1.5
- Intelligence: 2.5
- Strength: 3
- Speed: 3.5
- Stamina: 3
- Hand Seals: 3

3rd Databook = 31.5/40
- Ninjutsu: 5
- Taijutsu: 3.5
- Genjutsu: 4
- Intelligence: 3.5
- Strength: 3.5
- Speed: 4.5
- Stamina: 3.5
- Hand Seals: 4

My Estimation:

4th Databook = 35/40
- Ninjutsu: 5
- Taijutsu: 4
- Genjutsu: 4.5
- Intelligence: 4
- Strength: 4
- Speed: 5
- Stamina: 4
- Hand Seals: 4.5

[Before reading, please be aware that I'm not certain where exactly the 3rd Databook picked up and left off in terms of arcs in the Anime/Manga - So I'm assuming that it has only covered up until Sasuke's final battle with Itachi]

My estimations aren't absolute, but I believe on that on their own terms, they are pretty accurate. Despite not having used much genjustu following his attainment of the EMS, I'd imagine that Sasuke's heightened form of the Mangekyo Sharingan would be much more powerful in terms of casting illusory techniques. In reference to strength, intelligence, speed, and stamina, I'd say that Sasuke's last few battles with the 5 Kage have pretty much shown just how clever (Coating his Susano'o ribcage with Amaterasu to prevent the Raikage from touching him), quick (Matching the Raikage's speed during their initial clash: Chidori Vs. Elbow Bolt), enduring (Allowing himself to be stabbed by Danzo in order to inflict a fatal wound on him, after he figured out how Izanagi worked), and strong (Able to carry Killer Bee despite being exhausted after having used Amaterasu | Likewise being able to pick up Sakura with one hand after consecutive battles with the 5 Kage and Kakashi) Sasuke has become. Not much has been shown of his Taijutsu skills or his hand signs, but I'd expect that they've also improved substantially.
 
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Ramen Guy:

- Ninjutsu: 5
- Taijutsu: 5
- Genjutsu: 1.5
- Intelligence: 8
- Strength: 4
- Speed: 4
- Stamina: 5
- Hand Seals: 5


37.5
 

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Basically post your estimations on a certain character or a batch of them with their possible Databook statistics.

Older characters who have already their stats,and have shown more relevant stuff can be of course be posted with their respective stat improvement.

And also characters who don't have a databook entry can also be theorized upon.

Here's my batch
:

Uzumaki Naruto

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-4.5
  • Genjutsu-2
  • Intelligence-4

    [*]Strength-5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-2.5

    Total-32.5

Uchia Sasuke

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-3.5
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-4
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-4.5
  • Stamina-4
  • Hand seals-4

    Total-33.5

Gaara

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-2
  • Genjutsu-3.5
  • Intelligence-4.5
  • Strength-2.5
  • Speed-3
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-30.5

Senju Tsunade

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-3.5

    [*]Intelligence-4
  • Strength-5
  • Speed-3.5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-4

    Total-36

Terumi Mei

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-3.5
  • Genjutsu-3.5
  • Intelligence-4
  • Strength-3
  • Speed-4
  • Stamina-4
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-32

Raikage Ei

  • Ninjutsu-4
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-3
  • Intelligence-3
  • Strength-5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-2

    Total-32

Onoki

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-3.5
  • Genjutsu-3.5
  • Intelligence-4
  • Strength-5
  • Speed-4
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-4

    Total-34

Uchia Itachi

  • Ninjutsu-5

    Taijutsu -4

  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-5

    [*]Stamina-2.5
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-37

Yakushi Kabuto

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-4
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-4.5
  • Stamina-4
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-36

Hatake Kakashi

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-4.5

    [*]Genjutsu-3
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-4.5
  • Stamina-4
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-36

Tobi

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-3.5
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-3.5
  • Speed-4
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-3.5

    Total-34.5

Uchia Madara

  • Ninjutsu-5
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-5
  • Intelligence-5
  • Strength-4.5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-5

    Total-39.5

Might Guy

  • Ninjutsu-3
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-3
  • Intelligence-3.5
  • Strength-5
  • Speed-5
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-2.5

    Total-32

Killer Bee

  • Ninjutsu-4.5
  • Taijutusu-5
  • Genjutsu-3
  • Intelligence-3.5
  • Strength-5

    [*]Speed-4
  • Stamina-5
  • Hand seals-2.5

    Total-33.5
There are others that I would like to add,but I'm waiting for some input from you guys.
I agree with most of them, but I feel that Kakashi's stat total is too high.
Btw, I've edited few of them and inserted my version in red.

Edit : I forgot Gaara, his stat total seems to be too low for a kage.
 
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I checked them all out and the only thing I found to be slightly out of place was as UzumakiNaruto20 stated about Naruto's intelligence/Sasuk3Uchiha research over Sasuke but besides that, everything looks pretty accurate, nice job my friend ;)
 
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Sasuke Uchiha: Past Databook Statistics

My Estimation:

4th Databook = 35/40
- Ninjutsu: 5
- Taijutsu: 4
- Genjutsu: 4.5 I'd even give him a 5 as he incapacitated Shee with one basic genjutsu,and considering Tsunade has a 5 it's only fitting to give him a 5
- Intelligence: 4
- Strength: 4
- Speed: 5 I'm a bit skeptical on this,as he hasn't improved much since the last databook,not only that but he's fighting style has tremendously shifted from the pro active combatant he was to the static fighter who abides in Susano'o,but it's not completely unreasonable to give him a 5
- Stamina: 4
- Hand Seals: 4.5

My estimations aren't absolute, but I believe on that on their own terms, they are pretty accurate. Despite not having used much genjustu following his attainment of the EMS, I'd imagine that Sasuke's heightened form of the Mangekyo Sharingan would be much more powerful in terms of casting illusory techniques. In reference to strength, intelligence, speed, and stamina, I'd say that Sasuke's last few battles with the 5 Kage have pretty much shown just how clever (Coating his Susano'o ribcage with Amaterasu to prevent the Raikage from touching him), quick (Matching the Raikage's speed during their initial clash: Chidori Vs. Elbow Bolt), enduring (Allowing himself to be stabbed by Danzo in order to inflict a fatal wound on him, after he figured out how Izanagi worked), and strong (Able to carry Killer Bee despite being exhausted after having used Amaterasu | Likewise being able to pick up Sakura with one hand after consecutive battles with the 5 Kage and Kakashi) Sasuke has become. Not much has been shown of his Taijutsu skills or his hand signs, but I'd expect that they've also improved substantially.

Good points you made there

I've edited some parts I felt that might need a change


Ramen Guy:

- Ninjutsu: 5
- Taijutsu: 5
- Genjutsu: 1.5
- Intelligence: 8
- Strength: 4
- Speed: 4
- Stamina: 5
- Hand Seals: 5


37.5

Why so low?

It's actually

Ninjutsu-5

Taijutsu-5

Genjutsu-4

Intelligence-5

Strength-4.5

Speed-5 Forget the yellow flash,forget Naruto or Gated Gai,no no,This guy here is too fast that he had to actually retire from the ninja business,because he made other shinobi lose their jobs U_U

Hand seals-5 Do you see Itachi when he makes hand seals? No right? Well this guy doesn't even do them hmpf


I agree with most of them, but I feel that Kakashi's stat total is too high.
Btw, I've edited few of them and inserted my version in red.

Edit : I forgot Gaara, his stat total seems to be too low for a kage.

Kakashi's stats from the 3rd databook are total of 34.5 IIRC,I gave him an additional stamina boost as he's been fighting more during the war in comparison to his fights he did before.Just look at his fight with Tobi's paths.So for that I gave him a +1

And I might have added some Genjutsu maybe a 0.5 which in total added to his databook 3 stats sum up to 36


I checked them all out and the only thing I found to be slightly out of place was as UzumakiNaruto20 stated about Naruto's intelligence/Sasuk3Uchiha research over Sasuke but besides that, everything looks pretty accurate, nice job my friend ;)

Thanks man xd
 

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Tobi, the main villain, with a 34.5? :flaw: You put people like Kakashi above him...


Ninjutsu-5
Taijutusu-4.5
Genjutsu-5
Intelligence-5
Strength-5
Speed-5
Stamina-5
Hand seals-5

Total: 39.5



Unless you're doing it based on what he's shown. But he's still shown some impressive strength feats, and some taijutsu feats.
 
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Tobi, the main villain, with a 34.5? :flaw: You put people like Kakashi above him...


Ninjutsu-5
Taijutusu-4.5
Genjutsu-5
Intelligence-5
Strength-5
Speed-5
Stamina-5
Hand seals-5

Total: 39.5



Unless you're doing it based on what he's shown. But he's still shown some impressive strength feats, and some taijutsu feats.
I know Tobi is a villain but it has nothing to do with the databook stats,also Naruto is in the same tier as Tobi but he has even lower stats than kakashi or Tsunade.

The databook isn't meant to say that a character with higher stats is stronger than one with lower,look at Tsunsade she has sky high stats but that doesn't mean she's stringer than Sasuke or Naruto who have lower stats.

It's purpose is to give an idea of how well rounded the Shinobi is

And don't worry Tobi is gonna raise his stats as soon as he shows what he really has in him.And I'll be updating the stats as long as the war progresses.
 

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I know Tobi is a villain but it has nothing to do with the databook stats,also Naruto is in the same tier as Tobi but he has even lower stats than kakashi or Tsunade.

The databook isn't meant to say that a character with higher stats is stronger than one with lower,look at Tsunsade she has sky high stats but that doesn't mean she's stringer than Sasuke or Naruto who have lower stats.

It's purpose is to give an idea of how well rounded the Shinobi is

And don't worry Tobi is gonna raise his stats as soon as he shows what he really has in him.And I'll be updating the stats as long as the war progresses.

I see what you're saying, and I agree.

But Tobi's strength should be higher IMO. He was injured and was still able to lift Konan and stop her movements with one hand.

He also blocked one of Suigetsu's sword swings by putting out his wrist, and he took no damage at all.

^^Madara hasn't shown any strength feats, but you gave him a higher score than Tobi.




As for Taijutsu, he took out two ninjas from the Allied forces by only using his legs. His S/T techs amplify his Taijutsu a lot.




As for Hand Seals, he has a Sharingan.
 

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I see what you're saying, and I agree.

But Tobi's strength should be higher IMO. He was injured and was still able to lift Konan and stop her movements with one hand.

He also blocked one of Suigetsu's sword swings by putting out his wrist, and he took no damage at all.

^^Madara hasn't shown any strength feats, but you gave him a higher score than Tobi.




As for Taijutsu, he took out two ninjas from the Allied forces by only using his legs. His S/T techs amplify his Taijutsu a lot.




As for Hand Seals, he has a Sharingan.
Fair enough,in the process of making so many stats I messed up some,just like Tobi's as you pointed out.

But in regards to Madara I gave a higher stat because of his display on the 4th division where he kicked a fodder and sent hims flying for several meter until he crashed on some other fodders.

But with the things you highlighted I guess I must give Tobi to a 4.
 

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Tobi, the main villain, with a 34.5? :flaw: You put people like Kakashi above him...


Ninjutsu-5
Taijutusu-4.5
Genjutsu-5
Intelligence-5
Strength-5
Speed-5
Stamina-5
Hand seals-5

Total: 39.5



Unless you're doing it based on what he's shown. But he's still shown some impressive strength feats, and some taijutsu feats.

his taijutsu hasn't really been shown maybe because he knows its not very good... I'd probably have to give his taijutsu a 4 at the most considering he hasn't shown any of it
 

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Fair enough,in the process of making so many stats I messed up some,just like Tobi's as you pointed out.

But in regards to Madara I gave a higher stat because of his display on the 4th division where he kicked a fodder and sent hims flying for several meter until he crashed on some other fodders.

But with the things you highlighted I guess I must give Tobi to a 4.

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Here Tobi also sends a ninja flying a few meters
 
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