the sharingan starting to pissed me off!!!!!!!!

[MadaraHashirama]

Not true.

Rasenshuriken: Naruto had to train hard for this: He was working on something that couldn't be taught and was virtually impossible, but he succeeded through hard work.

Sage Mode: You saw all those statues that Pa told Naruto about? Those were dozens of people who came before him and failed, prooving Sage Mode is no walk in the park. Naruto worked for that.

KM/BM: you think Naruto just walked up to Kurama, asked for some power and Kurama said "K". No, he had to defeat his dark side, master taking chakra from Kurama without Kurama taking his own, defeat Kurama and train himself to effectively use Kurama's powers, all of which were not easy feats.

As for Sasuke, while most of his power didn't come through hard work, he certainly didn't get them for free. Several things had to happen to him, including insanity, being an enemy of the world, losing his entire family and life long loniless like Naruto and Gaara, and loss of his older brother. If those things didn't happen, Sasuke wouldn't be bearly as strong as he is now.

That's looking at the small details, if you look that way then look at every detail Itachi did, or heck, even Kabuto did because he also had to get the Sage Mode.
Like I said before, my biggest problem is Naruto's latest upgrades, the Sage Mode Naruto was epic, Rasenshuriken I've seen the episode and Naruto practiced hard aswell, but the others are utterly bullcrap.

 

[Punk Hazard]

not to mention that Kurama joining sides with Naruto was a result of Naruto's strong will. As you stated, both characters have their own advatages, and all their abilities derive from those 2 advantages. one has a strong will, strength and endurance, the other has eyes that grant the user amazing abilities compared to other ninjas.

BTW +rep

Thanks, and I'll rep you the second I can.

 

[Sasunarufan13]

How am I supposed to know your a girl? If you really want someone to know it then put in your signature "HELLO EVERYONE I AM A GIRL."
This is a discussion thread indeed and I love discussing with people but in this forum it's impossible, it's filled with tons of fanboys you simply can't argue against because their impossible to talk to, they are 15+ years old and have the mentality of a 5 years old.

Naruto and Sasuke compared to others haven't trained shit, if they have show me the proof where its said or where you can see Naruto training is ass off? (NOT EPISODES, IN THE SHIPPUUDEN)
Naruto has so many Rasengans and he still can't even make one with just one hand, how bullshit is that, looks like alot of training to me, more like pulling crap out of thin air and making it a Rasengan.

I loved Sage Naruto, one of the best fights I've ever seen in Naruto, Pain vs Naruto, tactics, Taijutsu, Ninjutsu everything was there, Naruto was so epic. Then once he got his Kyuubi Mode I started to dislike him, or basically I didn't really mind him having it I just didnt care about him anymore, ever since he started to pull Rasengans out of his ass I started to dislike him because it's just bullshit.

Please give me the chapter where Naruto is training that can proof he actually did something to get all these 5 billions Rasengan variations while Minato, a genius, couldn't even create 1.

Look at my gender sign: that should have given you a clue :sy:
As for proof: why don't you read the whole manga again? In the Shippuuden he has been shown training with Yamato and Kakashi for his Rasengan, he has been training to get his Sage mode and he has trained with Killer Bee to tame Kyuubi. And of him not being able to form a rasengan with one hand: I'll bet that if he was able to do that, you would have start saying that that was pulled out of thin air too because Naruto couldn't have possible been able to do that on his own. What does it matter anyway if he forms the Rasengan with one or two hands? He's able to form it and that's all that matters.
And I'll have you known I'm almost twenty and I certainly don't have the mentality of a five year old.
And calling someone a fanboy/fangirl just because they argue that they indeed trained for their powers is mature? While I agree that there are people who take defending their favourite characters too far, don't put everyone in the same corner. I know the flaws and strengths of my favourite characters and I'm willing to admit their flaws. However I won't admit that they didn't train for their powers, because that simply isn't true.

 

[superrs425]

While it's true that it is annoying in some opinions, it actually makes sense. The Uchiha inherited the Sage's eyes which had his powers, so obviously the Uchiha were NATURALLY more powerful than other clans. The Senju inherited the body and will, and since the Uzumaki are related to the Senju and also are very strong in will and contain enormous chakra reserves, their specialty is training hard and enduring.

If the Uchiha inherited the eyes and powers of the Sage then obviously they will gain abilities that are considered "haxed" or super powerful. Naruto's extreme determination and will power, which is his natural strength, derives partially from the Uzumaki/Senju powerful will and strength, plus his enormous chakra reserves. so both balance each other out. It's sort of like Orochimaru and Jiraiya; Orochimaru has the powers that make him an extraordinarily dangerous shinobi, while Jiraiya has the strength, will and stamina that make him equally as strong. Both have different strengths: one has abundant ninjutsu techniques and a vast powerful arsenal of kinjutsu, the other has strength, enormous stamina, strong endurance and strong will. both are considered to be equals in ways and both balance each other out.

The list keeps going of shinobi who are equal but possess different strengths. The last example is like Lee and Neji. One has the power of the Byakugan and his clan's abilities, the other has a strong will, determination and endurance. Because Neji started out with his powers due to being born with the Byakugan and Lee had to train arduously to attain strength, neji at 1st was stronger. now after years of training both are equals.

your not getting the point, what i meant was if the rinnegan the upper level of the sharingan why is the sharingan look like it stronger and have more abilities and the other thing is that sasuke work so little to be strong and naruto work hard to get power to be equal

 

[superrs425]

Sasuke/Uchiha/Sharingan bashers are starting to piss me off. Seriously, is there always going to be a thread like this when Sasuke or another Uchiha learns or reveals a new jutsu? And don't start that bullsh*t that Sasuke doesn't have to work for his powers as much as Naruto does. Here's a hint: we don't see Sasuke training a lot. Why? Because the manga is called Naruto. So of course it looks like Naruto is working harder for his powers because we see him training while we don't see the training of Sasuke. It's not because we don't see it that he doesn't train for his powers. Give the guy some credit. And don't use a double standard with him - because that seems to be the hype here when it concerns him.
So what if the Sharingan has a new technique? It's not like we know everything of it. For all we know, there are more hidden dangerous techniques that aren't revealed yet.
Just enjoy the manga like it is - it's not like anyone of us can change anything of it

um i think that what i dont get? the manga is called naruto but it seem to be more about sasuke because even the main character story is about saving sasuke so dont try to play me

 

[lswhyte123]

I have to agree here again. If Sasuke learns a new move simply because Itachi mentions it,I'll be pissed off.

As it stands I am aware that Naruto is meant to work hard for things and Sasuke is meant to get them with ease,it's cause he's meant to be better by default. But honestly,I am sick of the way it's being written atm.

It seems as though things are being made up to make the Uchiha O.P and catch up to Naruto with as little effort being put into it as possible.
I'm fine with Sasuke & Itachi getting stronger or having new moves etc but the fact that these moves are just popping up is kinda annoying.

I wish all these OP moves had been mentioned before and had been touched on before. Tsunade's was literally pulled outta Kishi's ass and the same for Izanami...he needs to stop pulling out new better techniques and continue to improve the ones that already exist.

It seems as though the main characters are getting more and more and the old ones like Konoha 11 are left with what they had in part 1.

When Naruto finally uses THAT Jutsu...I'll be happy because, it has been mentioned before and won't be outta thin air.

 

[superrs425]

Oh, the eyes of fictional people are making you mad?

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Please, make a thread expressing your irrevelant hatred.

As for your little claim with the Rinnegan supposed to being the best, but Sharingan has more abilities, you do realize that someone who has truly unlocked Rinnegan like Madara would have BOTH the known Rinnegan abilities AND the Sharingan abilities mentioned? No? of course you didn't, if you did, you wouldn't have made this thread.

Also, that's just how Naruto is. The whole point of part 1 was that no matter, Naruto can work hard enough to get strong while others just power-up, that's what makes Naruto special: As opposed to his rival, he works hard. Its like Orognato said.

Also, in case you haven't noticed, lot of negative things had to happen to Itachi and Sasuke for them to get their abilities, so everything's cool.

Once again, Orognato has pretty much nailed it.

umm first of all it was state a fact that the rennegan was stronges and second idk what ur talking about i wasnt talking about madara becuase he the only person that was shown that can switch between shirangan and rinnegan it not sure that even the so6p can switch from those 2 so dont try to play me again

 

[superrs425]

be grateful that you get to read it for free and stop complaining

lol be grateful? why would i be grateful it not like i cant read other manga for free

 

[BlackDude]

Sasuke/Uchiha/Sharingan bashers are starting to piss me off. Seriously, is there always going to be a thread like this when Sasuke or another Uchiha learns or reveals a new jutsu? And don't start that bullsh*t that Sasuke doesn't have to work for his powers as much as Naruto does. Here's a hint: we don't see Sasuke training a lot. Why? Because the manga is called Naruto. So of course it looks like Naruto is working harder for his powers because we see him training while we don't see the training of Sasuke. It's not because we don't see it that he doesn't train for his powers. Give the guy some credit. And don't use a double standard with him - because that seems to be the hype here when it concerns him.
So what if the Sharingan has a new technique? It's not like we know everything of it. For all we know, there are more hidden dangerous techniques that aren't revealed yet.
Just enjoy the manga like it is - it's not like anyone of us can change anything of it

I agree +rep

 

[Shinozgr8]

sasuke needs different jutsu that ARENT of the sharingan lol it's getting boring and too predictable...and don't tell me kishi's gonna troll another oro/variation and one hit him with a sharingan tech...if that's the case i'll......................

 

[Uchiha seeker]

well Sasuke has MS... if u keep using it u will go blind... and Izanami.... when u se it u go blind to i think.... so yah u use it once and u suck after that i guess... while Naruto can spam his moves like crazy and get stronger.

 

[DD93]

Now now, Kishi said Sasuke will be at the same level as naruto by the end of the series...

 

[Shinozgr8]

well Sasuke has MS... if u keep using it u will go blind... and Izanami.... when u se it u go blind to i think.... so yah u use it once and u suck after that i guess... while Naruto can spam his moves like crazy and get stronger.

naruto is no better than sasuke in this case...and correction, sasuke uses ems now. so he doesn't go blind from it

 

[superrs425]

I have to agree here again. If Sasuke learns a new move simply because Itachi mentions it,I'll be pissed off.

As it stands I am aware that Naruto is meant to work hard for things and Sasuke is meant to get them with ease,it's cause he's meant to be better by default. But honestly,I am sick of the way it's being written atm.

It seems as though things are being made up to make the Uchiha O.P and catch up to Naruto with as little effort being put into it as possible.
I'm fine with Sasuke & Itachi getting stronger or having new moves etc but the fact that these moves are just popping up is kinda annoying.

I wish all these OP moves had been mentioned before and had been touched on before. Tsunade's was literally pulled outta Kishi's ass and the same for Izanami...he needs to stop pulling out new better techniques and continue to improve the ones that already exist.

It seems as though the main characters are getting more and more and the old ones like Konoha 11 are left with what they had in part 1.

When Naruto finally uses THAT Jutsu...I'll be happy because, it has been mentioned before and won't be outta thin air.

thankyou

 

[Sasunarufan13]

um i think that what i dont get? the manga is called naruto but it seem to be more about sasuke because even the main character story is about saving sasuke so dont try to play me

Just because it has been a few chapters about Sasuke you think it's now more about him than Naruto? The only reason why it seems like that is because we read it chapter per chapter instead of the whole manga at once. It this is put into a manga, the chapters with Sasuke won't seem so long because it's bundled with the other chapters.
And well about the main character saving Sasuke ... That's what he promised to do -_- He can't ignore his friend if he promised to bring him back.

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

Stfu, Naruto fanboys are the worst. If it weren't for Kurama, Naruto wouldn't have the power to do any of the shit he's done. So stfu, you're getting the manga, if you don't like it, gtfo this site and don't come back. Honestly, you're a retard if you don't apprecieate when Kishimoto is doing for us.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

The uchiha are op .get over it.

 

[Wechselgeld]

actually i am glad to see izanami cause of that the uchiha bros will die or something like that
read the mythologie about izanagi and izanami

 

[Microsword57]

*cracks fingers* lets start on how everyone feels naruto works hard and sasuke has never. Sasuke didnt go through hugging his dark side, becoming friends with kyuubi or training with bee because first off sasuke has trained HARD. lol he trained to use those variations of chidori and for everyone saying o sharinghan just gives sasuke power but naruto trains for where hes at. Naruto trained for sage mode. Naruto and the kyuubi =sasuke and sharinghan fanboys notice what your doing. Naruto was born with kyuubi and learned to use his charkra more and more so to you guys he "earned" it but sasuke born with sharinghan learns to master it i mean look what hes dont with amaeratsu and susano'o and everything really hes been practicing using it WHILE FIGHTING he doesnt have a quiet training ground to go to with him in constant conflict and he test his abilities in fights and while hes fighting learns to do something new with it. but no just not hes gained that with "ease" if anything sasuke is even more talented for being able to train while in actual battle. Naruto has been trained and talking about naruto beating kyuubi for his power? lol are u guys serious? bee hopped in and helped naruto fight him and even when he was still about to lose his mother random ly appears and straps kyuubi down with chains.. thats not naruto beating the kyuubi thats kyuubi getting jumped for his power lol. naruto got KM from learning how to steal his power voluntarily and BM from making friends with it. Hoe can you say him becoming friends with kyuubi him earning it through his will power? thats not training lol thats just getting. Sasuke gets his share of hand offs but you guys overly assume that whenever a new jutsu for sharinghan is mention sasuke will just get to use it and be stronger than your god naruto. Hes not goin to use this tech cause of the drawbacks simple. now stop the clowning its sad. "sasuke doesnt work hard or train we never see him do it" we never see minato, itachi, So6p, kabuto, tobi jiraya kakashi guy and lee any of them train but no they worked hard to get where they are. we dont see sasuke train and hes "gets it free." And think about it sasuke gets like 30-35% of the manga to him and if he got episodes just showing him training you guys would rage cause you guys already get mad at the fact they we arent seeing naruto all the time right now. "im tired of brothers vs kabuto we need more naruto" i mean really? just thank about how you guys act sometimes

 

[soulless uchiha]

lol be grateful? why would i be grateful it not like i cant read other manga for free

then go read another manga. no one's stoping you:flaw: