In-Depth study: Minato>Itachi

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In my previous thread I’ve explained Itachi’s genjutsu and we found out that only Tsukuyomi can actually affect the mind but like other jutsu it also has a drawback. I will now explain Minato’s advantage and skills necessary to defeat a good genjutsu user like Itachi.

In any versus thread as long as Itachi is involved, majority of Itachi‘s fans would try to defend him with these techs: Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, and Susanoo. These are all MS techs.

Minato could probably sense the presence of danger. He displayed this trait by saving Kushina and Kakashi. Tobi even explained it to Kushina how Minato uses his mark to be able protect her always.

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If we consider Tobi's explanation as to why Minato incorporated the mark and the word ALERT, it will connect to him being able to sense danger. He incorporated the mark so he will always be there to protect kushina. Take note of the word protect.

QUESTIONS:

1. Why would Minato incorporate the mark if he's always on her side?

Since he can't be always at her side, he incorporated the mark so he can help her in times of trouble. It make sense right?

2. How will he know that Kushina is in trouble assuming that they are distances apart?

The mark alerts him. This was being mentioned by Minato himself.

It's very clear that the term alert connects to "sense danger" if we base on how Tobi explained it and how Minato described it.

AMATERASU: Minato can dodge it easily. A was able to dodge it during his fight with Sasuke. Some will say that the only way to avoid it is by watching the eyes of the caster. Is this true?

Nagato was able to determine that Itachi will use Amaterasu because of the pressure. Remember that Minato is also a sensor and like what i've mentioned earlier his "mark jutsu" alerts him.

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TSUKUYOMI: This technique can possibly turn the tide to Itachi's favor only if he can successfully trap Minato. As they always say, every jutsu has its weakness, Tsukuyomi also has its weakness. The user needs to activate MS to be able to use it and this technique is a close range tech. The scans below shows how Itachi activates his MS

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What's the common sign on the first 2 scans above? Itachi closes his eyes before activating MS. Can't Minato attack when Itachi activates his MS?

SUSANOO: This is Itachi's defense. Some fans always raise the question "how can Minato break Susanoo?" Do you think this is the right question? Does Minato needs to break it? The problem when using these MS techs is chakra consumption. Itachi can't activate this tech long enough to protect himself because it will drain his chakra fast.

The scans below shows Itachi retreating. In a single day, he uses 3 MS techs. The 1st one I believe was during his fight with Kakashi and the last two is when he tried to capture Naruto.

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Speed and FTG can counter amaterasu and tsukuyomi. Not to mention he can sense danger. Minato too is a tactical fighter like Itachi and everyone agrees except idiots. If Kakashi was able to make a clone in fighting Itachi, can't Minato do the same? To be a Hokage, one must know a thousand skills.

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Minato has a large chakra consumption and FTG uses little to no chakra at all that's why he can spam it like in the previous shinobi war

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He also spam his kunai with just one throw. If Itachi managed to deflect all, how many moves do you all think it will take him? If it will cost him an extra move then it's an advantage for Minato. Remember that Minato set things up in all of his fights we've seen. Setting his kunais means to scatter it in the battlefield. Even if Itachi managed to deflect all kunais, Minato's purpose is still in play (scattering kunais)

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Minato appears everywhere near his mark. He can appear at the front, back, or even above his target.

Minato appearing at the front of tobi. Minato hits him at the back so the mark was there. Take a good look at the rasengan. It looks like the mark was incorporated in his chakra.

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Minato appearing at the back after tagging the enemy in his foot.

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Minato appearing above of Tobi

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Space time barrier: Minato can use this to teleport all incoming attacks.

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Minato can also teleport objects even if he's not touching them like what he did here.

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Take a good look at scans above. Minato was on top of Bunta but he was able to teleport Kuruma and the blast to another location. It's very clear that he did not touch Kuruma to teleport him and this is definitely a FACT that we have to count.

So, what's in Itachi's arsenal besides genjutsu that can defeat Minato? Absolutely NONE!! All ninjutsu's will be directed back to him using the space time barrier. Itachi's arsenal will be limited to only genjutsu because he can't afford to engage in a Taijutsu. One mark from Minato then it's over. This is the reason why Itachi fans uses Tsukuyomi as the factor to defeat Minato but is this really easy to catch Minato?

The fact that Minato was known to be a shrewd person can nullify all assumptions made by Itachi fans that Minato will do recklessly in any versus thread. Minato can also summon frogs so it's unlikely that he can't summon ma and pa. He can use food cart destroyer as a diversion for his attacks.

He can seal a person's chakra like what he did to Kushina's chakra, Kurama's chakra and his chakra. Can't he do that to Itachi? He can seal Itachi's chakra to another object. He was able to seal Kurama's chakra so why can't he do the same to Itachi? Remember that Minato knows the Uzumaki special sealing techs.

Lastly, Minato can create a barrier. He was planning on creating a barrier to hold Kurama. A barrier that can hold Kuruma's power must be that strong.

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By the way, since he has a contract with the toads, he can summon the Gourd Toad which can use Toad Gourd Prison. This tech is used to capture and isolate a victim by dragging them into the toad's stomach. The toad's stomach is a cavernous chamber, which includes a lake of strong corrosive gastric acid that can dissolve anything that should happen to fall into it.



So, how can Itachi counter Minato's techs? Genjutsu again??:scorps:
 
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Not this shit again, every freaking week i swear..
 

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i didnt read but minato>itachi :D
 

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hmm..no!
btw, i have a feeling that this thread will reach the hottest threads....
 

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tired of thses thread really minato loses ftg isnt that fast if killerbee counterd it
 

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No no no, please guys don't let another one of these reach the hottest threads, just walk away...

OT: what you just said, can be said in an opposite way, to make it work for Itachi. Geez Stop these threads, look at the hottest threads, those make the base look Horrible for guests who think about joining!!!! Stop this
 

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Itachi is boss. what can minato do against that attack???!!!!
lol there are plenty arguments though, they are two great shinobi.U could never cover everything if u tried. Those wernt even all legit facts u listed bro
 

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So, how can Itachi counter Minato's techs? Genjutsu again??:scorps:

Minato fanboy neglects to even mention YATA MIRROR and Sword of Totsuka.

Auto-fail, because there's your answer. YATA MIRROR repels all, thus ALL jutsu either by Minato, Nagato, Goku whoever are repelled.
 

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Can we all agree to let this thread die?

No need for it to reach hot threads.
 

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Minato fanboy neglects to even mention YATA MIRROR and Sword of Totsuka.

Auto-fail, because there's your answer. YATA MIRROR repels all, thus ALL jutsu either by Minato, Nagato, Goku whoever are repelled.

Us minato fans accept these things, when we say susanoo thts wat we mean. what were saying in minato is fast enough to get behind the yata mirror and the totsuka blade cudnt catch him. read his entire thread it actually does make sense.
+rep this thread rly covers it all, well done
 
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What the hell there's more than one thread like this in less than a month.
Anyway sorry I didn't agree. You are minato's fanboys, that's why you only looking for theories that makes itachi<minato. itachi can cast genjutsu with finger, unlike eyes, finger can be pointed out everywhere, also there is yata and totsuka.
 

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just report this thread the same one was already done a week ago.

this explanation is just as lame and prone to troll baiting.
What the hell there's more than one thread like this in less than a month.
Anyway sorry I didn't agree. You are minato's fanboys, that's why you only looking for theories that makes itachi<minato. itachi can cast genjutsu with finger, unlike eyes, finger can be pointed out everywhere, also there is yata and totsuka.
^This and This.
 

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Minato fanboy neglects to even mention YATA MIRROR and Sword of Totsuka.


Auto-fail, because there's your answer. YATA MIRROR repels all, thus ALL jutsu either by Minato, Nagato, Goku whoever are repelled.

:sy: I did mention susanoo. YATA MIRROR and Sword of Totsuka can't hit Minato. How can he get through the space time barrier?

Us minato fans accept these things, when we say susanoo thts wat we mean. what were saying in minato is fast enough to get behind the yata mirror and the totsuka blade cudnt catch him. read his entire thread it actually does make sense.
+rep this thread rly covers it all, well done

Thanks

im aware minato fanboys will jump on any arguments given to him.

but this thread is nothing more than pure spectulation,

blaze release has come up with a much better argument to Itachi > minato wwith out speculation.
its also a pointless thread that has allready been done beofre a week ago.

Mods need to close this shiz

speculation? are you sure? what about the evidence i've presented? You'll ignore it?
 
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