nagato vs kakashi and guy DEBATE?

[Prince Charles]

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right here guy states ''So he knows that we've already developed strategies to counter ALL pains abilities.

notice how i bolded the ALL part if this is indeed true that means they infact have counters to all of pains abilities that includes not only deva path but the rest of them shown here:

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壱 (1) - Deva Path.
- Asura Path.-grants the user the ability to summon mechanised armor, augmenting their body with extra limbs and various robotic weaponry
- Human Path.-grants the user the ability to remove the soul of any target they touched as well as read their mind.
- Animal Path.-grants the user the ability to summon various creatures.
- Preta Path.-grants the user the ability to absorb an infinite amount of chakra in any form using the Blocking Technique Absorption Seal.
- Naraka Path.-grants the user two main abilities: interrogation and restoration, by using the King of Hell.

now I'd like to start off with guy.
1. deva path is able to absorb any ninjutsu which would not be a problem for guy. shown right here

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shown right here guy is performing morning peacock which is a short to mid range technique which is composed of heating the air around him stated by kisame right here:

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with this preta path would not be able to absorb it since its not chakra or ninjutsu based.

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also guys hidurudo not only is this not chakra based and would not be effected by preta path.now not only can this help take care of nagato's summoning but if nagato tries to absorb Hirudora without knowledge of it being non chakra based it will intermittently result in a victory since its explodes on command and focuses on 1 single point.

might guys eight gates- not only is guy op this state but his speed and power is so tremendous it would be hard for nagato to keep up also considering him not being able to walk perfectly and wit help of kakashi hatake,also to add might guy's summoning nigame would be a help also since it can levitate in mid air shown in the fight with kisame would would help guy out.

kakashi hatake- favorite part:izuna:
1. kakashi's various battle strategies and intelligence would help him tremendously in this not to forget guy stated him and kakashi developed counters to ALL of his techniques.

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ninjutsu- yes this would be a major problem since this is something preta path would have ease against.
1. raikiri clones.- with prep time kakashi could easily distract nagato with a lighting style clone shown right here

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now plp would probably bring up rinnegan can tell the differences between a fake and the real thing but shown their even deva pain with rinnegan eyes couldn't tell the difference this would give a blind spot open attack with guy for his hirudo or peacock technique since is mid-range or while guy is taking on nagato kakashi can have prep time with with kamui getting it ready for nagato since nagato isnt very mobility with his legs.

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shown right here with kakashi is able to come up from the under the ground with hiding like a mole technique which turns the ground into a sandy like substance with his chakra not only can he do this when guy is taking nagato but it would leave nagato for a blind spot while fighting guy, this is also a good escape method kakashi can use if nagato starts to get close ranged or his starts using long distance attacks

diversion- this is where the fun part comes in b4 the battle even starts kakashi can use hiding in the mist technique to cloud nagato while him a guy make a plan or kakashi is planning a prep time with his kamui.

if nagato tries to use any long distance ninjutsu kakashi can easily defend himself and guy with earth style wall

and his lighting style raikiri dog clones which can be a impressive diversion

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kakashi's genjutsu-

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this genjutsu is called demonic illusion which makes the person is it casted upon see something that they dont want to see it will basically be a broken heart image more info on it right here -http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Demonic_Illusion:_Hell_Viewing_Technique
now heres a another chakra based ninjutsu called lighting transmission that kakashi has to make a clone for and they make a chain which can cunt through basically anything which would be good for nagato's summoings-

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right their you can see kakashi using it.

heres comes the gud part about guy stating they have made counters for nagato's ability's

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this jutsu allows kakashi to go underground and he would be able to grab nagato but the leg and put him underground instantly this would be a good wait to avoid close contact since nagato is able to take their souls away instantly,. as you can see kakashi is basically equipped with techniques in his arsenal to not get hit or avoiding contact with naagato face to face.

summoning jutsu- 2 more things i'd like to address would kakashi's dogs which would aid him in battle against nagato and help guy.

proof to back up this claim-

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now plp will probably bring up nagato camilion that has the ability to turn invisible showing in the pic i provided this would cause major problems but kakashi always has a counter for that.

if your not familiar kakashi has a technique called tracking fang technique right here linking provided for more info on it-http://naruto.wikia.com/wiki/Summoning:_Earth_Release:_Tracking_Fang_Technique

basically if kakashi manages to get blood somehow from nagato he can use it to summong his tracking dogs which would use the blood to sniff out nagato thus making his invisible camilion useless.proof for the technique in action is right here-

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and here:

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shown right here zabuza was so confident that he couldnt get found by kakashi but with kakashi's tracking hounds and zabuza's blood they were able to find him in the mist. the same thing will happen to nagato and his invisible camilian if kakashi can get nagato's blood. yea i know this is long but its well presented and i backed up my facts your thoughts and if you want to debate and if you see any flaws feel free to comment :scorps: dont be scared to +rep =-ppp thanks for reading

 

[Datguyjr]

Nagato >

 

[Prince Charles]

Nagato >

-__- and this is why nb is shit now.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

You went for it then after I gave you the confidence lol

As much as it was well thought out and well presented with back up I cant see the duo having a counters against these:

- Multiple Summons, especially the dogs, which cant really be killed because they just keep on multiplying. These alone would be too much hassle for Guy and Kakashi. To stop this you have to directly stop Nagato, which is easier said then done.
- Nuke scale Shinra Tensei or even a normal sized one.
- Chibaku Tensei


Like I said in my post from that other thread, Guy states it to be as a 'strategy' so their counters might work, might not.

 

[F1N1X]

i like your thread xd but 1 thing what will Nagato be doing while all these is taking place:|

 

[Datguyjr]

-__- and this is why nb is shit now.

lol so your saying Kakashi & Guy can beat Nagato, which 9 tails Naruto & 8 tails Killer B couldn't? oh ok..

 

[-Broly-]

If guy got into 8 gates and Kakashi could kamui a whole body they could win

 

[scrmz]

kakashi + guy win
even chibaku tensei won't works since kakashi can kamui the small black ball before that it goes greater.Summons are good match up for Gai.Gedo Mazo will cause them trouble but them should win.Not to mension that Kakashi can kamui Nagata as well since there are not 6 separate path.

 

[Prince Charles]

You went for it then after I gave you the confidence lol

As much as it was well thought out and well presented with back up I cant see the duo having a counters against these:

- Multiple Summons, especially the dogs, which cant really be killed because they just keep on multiplying. These alone would be too much hassle for Guy and Kakashi. To stop this you have to directly stop Nagato, which is easier said then done.
- Nuke scale Shinra Tensei or even a normal sized one.
- Chibaku Tensei


Like I said in my post from that other thread, Guy states it to be as a 'strategy' so their counters might work, might not.

kakashi does hidden mist jutsu and gets prep time with kamui for the dogs.
shinra tensei ? kakashi uses hide like a mole jutsu and goes deep underground thus avoiding shinrei tensei can he not? guy uses nigame turtle summoning to evade it, and chibaku tensei guy can easily get out of the range of it with his speed from the gates and kakashi well.. thats a tricky part about how kakashi can avoid it... hide like a mole jutsu?xd

 

[Prince Charles]

lol so your saying Kakashi & Guy can beat Nagato, which 9 tails Naruto & 8 tails Killer B couldn't? oh ok..

1. never said he can beat them but they can have a chance they have different fighting styles and techniques from naruto and bee.

 

[uffe0365]

nicely done

 

[Beastbomb]

The only thing I seen was the Kakashi going underground and pulling Nagato down in an attempt to trap him somewhat but he also has earth style and its probably better than Kakashi's(not saying it is just assuming) but like the rest.

 

[Prince Charles]

nicely done

thanks buddy xd

 

[Prince Charles]

The only thing I seen was the Kakashi going underground and pulling Nagato down in an attempt to trap him somewhat but he also has earth style and its probably better than Kakashi's(not saying it is just assuming) but like the rest.

thanks bro:izuna:

 

[mistype]

There was a reason why Guy was not in Konoha, while it was attacked by Nagato...
Kakashi & Guy are just a bad match up for him. So yea, they could beat him. ^^

 

[Prince Charles]

i like your thread xd but 1 thing what will Nagato be doing while all these is taking place:|

falling in traps from kakahi and guy, most likely he will start off with his summoning's that guy can probably take care of, kakashi uses hidden mist and can easily use hide like a mole jutsu and raikiri nagato , or have prep time with kamui. dont forget nagato wont be able to tell the difference bewteen a lighting style clone or the real thing kakashi can easily use a clone to set nagato up in a trap.

 

[Ryuu..]

They can't counter Chibaku Tensei or Gedo Mazo. They just can't.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

kakashi does hidden mist jutsu and gets prep time with kamui for the dogs.
shinra tensei ? kakashi uses hide like a mole jutsu and goes deep underground thus avoiding shinrei tensei can he not? guy uses nigame turtle summoning to evade it, and chibaku senses guy can easily get out of the range of it with his speed from the gates and kakashi well.. thats a tricky part about how kakashi can avoid it... hide like a mole jutsu?xd

All of those things are easier said then done lol.

-Hidden Mist wouldnt matter anymore actually because apparently Nagato can sense people's chakra so he would have an idea of their location even if his eyes are blocked.
-Speed does not matter when you're against gravity, you will slowly still be sucked in towards the sphere.
- I see you havent replied towards my multiple dog summons. Sure Kakashi can Kamui them but how long can he keep up?
- Kakashi using earth style to hide as a mole wouldnt matter because Nagato has mastery of the elements.
- What will they do against Banshou Tenin? Unless there are huge building rubbles around them they would be attracted towards Nagato.
- Nagato's chakra rods, if pierced by one of these you are Nagato's puppet. This is a main problem for Guy as he mainly uses Taijutsu.

I can go on to say more

 

[uffe0365]

thanks buddy xd

YW if ya feel like it write me anytime i've got a theory lying in wait for someone capeable of discussing it

 

[Naruto Uzumaki Bijuu Sage]

kakashi + guy win
even chibaku tensei won't works since kakashi can kamui the small black ball before that it goes greater.Summons are good match up for Gai.Gedo Mazo will cause them trouble but them should win.Not to mension that Kakashi can kamui Nagata as well since there are not 6 separate path.

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