Edo Tensei does not count towards an individuals own strength

[Better]

Yes he can use it whenever he wants but it his not his own power. He is getiing people to fight for him. I guess if kabuto were to summon the sage of six paths, that would make him the most powerful ninja ever right?

if he did, yes lol

by what you're saying summons aren't the shinobi power

puppets aren't a puppeteers power

naruto shadow clones aren't his own power

is this right?

 

[Tazzilla88]

I do not think he has to feed them chakra, they have unlimited chakra, stamina, and health when they are summoned. I think it only uses chakra at the summoning point. But my point is theoretically anyone has access to this move, and can get power shinobi to fight for them. Say if it was ten ten using this move would you say she would be a top 5 ninja?

But I agree that kabuto can be good on his own with his new dragon sage mode.

Yeah their chakra and stamina are not unlimited look at Muu

 

[Enchanted Champion]

Yeah their chakra and stamina are not unlimited look at Muu

I think Muu's splitting ability is a special case. If you can show me something similar that happens to another edo then ill admit I'm wrong

 

[Enchanted Champion]

if he did, yes lol

by what you're saying summons aren't the shinobi power

puppets aren't a puppeteers power

naruto shadow clones aren't his own power

is this right?

Yes I'm saying summons are not a shinobi's power. You are getting them to fight for you, and lending you their abilites while they are summoned.

Puppets are a puppeteers power becuase they are built by the puppeteer, and takes the puppeteers chakra. It takes skill to move around a puppet. If the puppeteers did not control the puppet it would not move, unlike a summon

Shadow clones are a shinobi's power becase it splits the chakra evenly through the clone, and the clone can not do anything the original cannot do. Unlike Edo Tensei. For example kabuto will never be able to use clay bombs even though he summoned deidra.

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Yes I'm saying summons are not a shinobi's power. You are getting them to fight for you, and lending you their abilites while they are summoned.

Puppets are a puppeteers power becuase they are built by the puppeteer, and takes the puppeteers chakra. It takes skill to move around a puppet. If the puppeteers did not control the puppet it would not move, unlike a summon

Shadow clones are a shinobi's power becase it splits the chakra evenly through the clone, and the clone can not do anything the original cannot do. Unlike Edo Tensei. For example kabuto will never be able to use clay bombs even though he summoned deidra.

-_-.

 

[Oblargagh]

Do you realize how absolutely insanely hard it is to master edo tensei?

He must've trained and practiced it for years. It requires amazing chakra control, memorization and coordination to use.

It also requires an understanding of genetics and gathering people's DNA. You ALSO have to sacrifice (Find someone and kill them) in order to bring a person back.

It is totally part of his power as much as say a sword of totsuka or the yata mirror is part of Itachi's power. After all, they're weapons he found, not part of his original power.

 

[Luminousi]

That is like saying Sharingan doesn't make you strong. Your able to use it and control it but, that doesn't count? What kind of logic is this?

 

[Darkakatsuki]

this is garbage! Edo Tensei is a summoning technique and is therefore part of Kabuto's strength. And Kabuto didnt just learn the technique, he improved it using his ninjutsu proficiency and intelligence. Just like he used his scientific and Medical knowledge to replicate Jugo, Suigetsu, and Karin's abilities, infact, he didnt just replicate them, he modified those abilities to suit his needs. The genetic cloning and enhancement of Manda also proves just how capable Kabuto is. This man has achieved a lot and to take edo tensei to the level he has taken is out of this world. This guy even improved Zetsu in just one day and was able to create 100 000 clones of him, captured Yamato and used a truth serum (which he created) to interogate himwithout killing him. Mastered dragon sage mode and so many other achievements in such a short time, these are things that Oro couldnt achieve, sure the ideas (some of them) were Oro's, but Oro never managed to complete them and Kabuto did it in the space of a few months. Stop trying to underate Kabuto, he deserves all the respect he has earned, he worked hard for it and sacrificed a lot to get there.

If you gonna complain about Kabuto using a summoning technique that he improved and modified, then complain about Jiraiya's summonspamming in battle, complain about all the summoners in the series as well. and take away their summoning contracts. Here's a copy from Narutopedia....

Summoning: Impure World Resurrection

As a further testament to his corpse theme, Kabuto can perform the Summoning: Impure World Resurrection technique — which only Orochimaru and Tobirama Senju could before. Kabuto states that his usage of the technique surpasses that of the two other users, and he supports that by resurrecting five deceased Akatsuki members at once. He also states that he can resurrect many other powerful ninja under his control, including Madara Uchiha. He applied a seal on the corpses that doesn't completely rob them of their free will, but still controls their body movement against their will — a seal different from the one Orochimaru used. Kabuto showed his great prowess in this particular technique by summoning a large group of famous and powerful shinobi, including deceased jinchūriki, Kage, and many others. He is even able to remotely monitor the bodies as well as re-write the commands given to the resurrected people, allowing him to rob them of their free will whenever he wants.

Like his mentor Orochimaru, Kabuto has shown himself as an extensive researcher, performing multiple experiments to increase or neutralise an individual's abilities, as shown by his creation of Manda II, his intricate knowledge of the Wood Release, his mastery of the Summoning: Impure World Resurrection, the empowering of the Zetsu army, his enhancement of Madara's "golden age" body and the enhancements done to his own body by studying and reverse engineering the abilities of team Taka.

 

[fastrthnwind]

He is basically gaining the powers and abilities of other shinobi thorugh their resurrected bodies and using him to fight his battles, similar to a regular summoning, but the summons abilities and powers are not apart of his own power.

In a way it is a part of his power where he improved the jutsu itself and used it to fight a battle on a large scale, but it truly isn't his power since he is not the one out there doing the battling. So its not so much about the power of the "puppets", its about how he uses them.

To put it simply, he is just controlling a great power that he has added to his arsenal of tools. It's not really his own personal power that he is using.

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

It doesnt but then again it does

 

[6PathsofKami]

Agreed, its not your own abilities. It cant be compared to things like sharingan or fireballs because thats your own skills

 

[FloriGlori]

In that case the same goes for any kind of Kuchyose, 'weakening' characters like Jiraiya significantly.

No. Edo Tensei may use the strength of others, yet it is a Ninjutsu used by a Shinobi. Who needs to master it, to gather DNA and create talismans. If Sakura suddenly got the ability to summon and controll all the persons Kabuto summoned, she's top five indeed.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Agreed + rep no matter what anyone says he is using other people not himself therefore its not his strength for instance if Nagato brought back every powerfu Ninja that he wanted due to rinnei tensei would those ninja be part of his power?No Kabuto in a 1v1 can be beaten by at least 5 ninjas and others probably

 

[Turson]

I hear all most everyone call kabuto a top 5 ninja just because of edo tensei. Getting ninja who are most likely stronger then you, to fight your battles does not make you strong. If Kabuto was so strong he would not have been miles away front the actual battlefield hiding behind a barrier.

It is like a millionaire hiring thugs who know to fight, to fight his enemies for him. Does it mean he himself is powerful? No it just means the people backing him are tough and he is a coward.

If Sakura learns Edo Tensei to the Extent that Kabuto has mastered it, does that mean she is a top 5 ninja?

So In my opinion if your not using your own powers then it is not your own strength and does not count towards your own power.

Actually, will all these Edos Kabuto is stronger than anyone, including Sage of Six Paths. Yeah, I know that doesnt sound right.

 

[Baka Sennin]

I agree, edo tensei is just a cheap trick, not exactly true strength. Nevertheless, Kabuto is probably still a top 5 ninja with or without edo tensei. he's got insane physical abilities.

 

[Rune]

I would say it's unfair, but it's still part of his power

 

[iSpeak]

Sasori turning the 3rd Kazekage into a puppet and used him (with his iron sand) as part of his arsenal. And he had I think around 300 other puppets who kept their original abilities. Noone said that isn't his power. People like Jiraiya use summonings (who he is not physically controlling) as part of their arsenal and noone said that wasn't fair. Kabuto is doing a mix of both... I don't understand why people can't accept it as his power. Kabuto hiding in a cave may be cheap but if thats how he fights then so be it... others may view that as a smart move.

 

[Exaar]

It's a Jutsu, LIke a Jutsu it's a Tool for a Ninja to Use.

Edo's are His Puppets and His Tools to use, Just Like summoning Jutsu, Like Ma + Pa for Jman and Naruto.

It's like sasori's 3rd kazekage puppet, It's now in his arsenal and it count towards his Power.

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

I hear all most everyone call kabuto a top 5 ninja just because of edo tensei. Getting ninja who are most likely stronger then you, to fight your battles does not make you strong. If Kabuto was so strong he would not have been miles away front the actual battlefield hiding behind a barrier.

It is like a millionaire hiring thugs who know to fight, to fight his enemies for him. Does it mean he himself is powerful? No it just means the people backing him are tough and he is a coward.

If Sakura learns Edo Tensei to the Extent that Kabuto has mastered it, does that mean she is a top 5 ninja?

So In my opinion if your not using your own powers then it is not your own strength and does not count towards your own power.

Everybody has there thing that's his ,that's called playing dirty taking away is edo tensei is like taking the tailed beast away from the sage of the six path

Kabuto & tobi even consider it part of his power so how isn't something in his arsenal part of his strength

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[Kira was Righteous]

Everybody has there thing that's his ,that's called playing dirty taking away is edo tensei is like taking the tailed beast away from the sage of the six path

Kabuto & tobi even consider it part of his power so how isn't something in his arsenal part of his strength

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No its not at all lol Kabuto just summons randoms ninja that have died using a technique that he only knows because he absorbed some guys dna.Its not part of his strength its just riddiclous.