t's offical, Kakashi and Gai have surpassed the sannin

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With the first gate Kakashi may be faster, but we've only seen him use to climb a mountain.

And in the war arc we saw him wield Zabuza's sword and fight with it for a while, not even for any lengthy period. While we saw Orochimaru fight with his sword against the Third Hokage, for a longer period of time.

Yeah, his reactions may be better, but Oro's body is a slithering flexible mess. He can extend and move his body in almost any direction he wishes, so Kakashi's reactions aren't too above his.
we saw kakashi take out a sword men with his sword so that means major sword skills
 

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You truly believe kakashi is smarter than shikamaru or better than rock lee at taijutsu or even better than kiba at sniffing around? Then you know nothing. And just because he was praised a couple of times does not really mean anything.
Smarter than art 1 Shikimaru, yes. Even Kakashi later stated he has a brain comparable to that of Shikimaru's, and he's backed it up

Better than Part 1 Lee's taijutsu, yes. (excluding gates) The databook backs this up, and he has a sharingan.

Sense of smell at least comparable to that of Kiba's? Of course. If it wasn't true Naruto wouldn't have stated it.

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Then you know nothing
Says you. Yet my claims are supported by the manga, your opinion aint.

Even when he was younger he showed a good sense of smell



I realise people want to downplay Kakashi, but let's not deny manga canon.
 
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They both has 4.5 in the last databook.Kakashi increased his speed since that time while orochimaru died.
You have no proof that Orochimaru is faster.the first gate removes the restraints of the brain on the muscles so 100% of their strength can be used whereas normally, a person can only use 20% of their muscles' strength to keep them from disintegrating.

Intelligence in batle isn't same as scientific knowledge :sy:
Kakashi is known as one of the smartest character in the manga,Orochimaru is more crazy than smart in batle.

Kakashi's swords skill infuled of ligthing element is incredibly strong.The lighting element give a boost of power as you can see when he slashed the Oroginal Samehada owner.And Kakashi's lighting was able to cut Edo v2 Jins's cloak while orochimaru's kusanagi coulnd't cut Naruto's cloak.
don't equate kyuubi's durable to other bijuu it's an insult and 4-tail naruto is far stronger than those v2 jin don't compare.
 

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Smarter than art 1 Shikimaru, yes. Even Kakashi later stated he has a brain comparable to that of Shikimaru's, and he's backed it up

Better than Part 1 Lee's taijutsu, yes. (excluding gates) The databook backs this up, and he has a sharingan.

Sense of smell at least comparable to that of Kiba's? Of course. If it wasn't true Naruto wouldn't have stated it.

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Says you. Yet my claims are supported by the manga, your opinion aint.

Even when he was younger he showed a good sense of smell



I realise people want to downplay Kakashi, but let's not deny manga canon.
we saw kakashi sniff people out many times. also what did i tell you about posting manga reader your gonna get ban
 

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With the first gate Kakashi may be faster, but we've only seen him use to climb a mountain.
Of course, but we know how the gates work and even one of them provides a speed boost. Even though it may not be a huge increase.

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nd in the war arc we saw him wield Zabuza's sword and fight with it for a while, not even for any lengthy period. While we saw Orochimaru fight with his sword against the Third Hokage, for a longer period of time.
Even when Kakashi was younger, he showed us decent kenjutsu prowess.

With a mere kunai he held of Zabuza and Hidan despite them using superior weapons. In the war we seen him use Zabuza's blade with one hand...and taking out Kisame's master (even flowing raiton through it) and taking out a Zetsu. While it's true we didn't see him on panel a lot (using the sword) I think it's obvious that Kishimito is potraying him as a very skilled swordsman.

Yeah, his reactions may be better, but Oro's body is a slithering flexible mess. He can extend and move his body in almost any direction he wishes, so Kakashi's reactions aren't too above his.
By feats they are

Kakashi has reacted to a susanoo arrow.
Zabuza's blade despite his arm being inside Haku
Reactiong to both Hidan and Kakazu at the same time, and still had the skill and speed to save Shikimaru and CO

There are a few more examples.

I'm not saying Kakashi is going to blitz Orochimaru or anything, but his superior reactions should be noted.
 

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Neither Kakashi or Gai are on Jiraiya or Orochimaru's level. It is absurd to say that they are.

Tsunade isn't a battle oriented shinobi but she excels in her own field.


All in all, the Sannin are on another level than Kakashi or Gai.
 

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don't equate kyuubi's durable to other bijuu it's an insult and 4-tail naruto is far stronger than those v2 jin don't compare.
where do you get that from
Why would he get banned?
your not allowed to post manga reader you supposed to post naruto base manga if you post manga i know quite a few people that got ban for that reason
 

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so is the thread! so why cant he have a baseless claim!
I didn't make the thread lol but actually, there is evidence in P2 to suggest Kakashi and Gai have closed the gap and are comparable in power with the sannin.

Read through the thread and you'll see some examples me and other members have provided.
 

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All are nothing but hype he is just being compare to the best.
Doubt kakashi can formulate 200 in minutes that is part 1 shikamaru not even part 2
doubt kakashi can fight drunken lee and i like how he is no compare to gai
the notion of kakashi having a better sense of smell than kiba is destroyed when they are searching for itachi even he himself admit it and he is being compared to the rookies.
 

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All are nothing but hype he is just being compare to the best.
Doubt kakashi can formulate 200 in minutes that is part 1 shikamaru not even part 2
doubt kakashi can fight drunken lee and i like how he is no compare to gai
the notion of kakashi having a better sense of smell than kiba is destroyed when they are searching for itachi even he himself admit it and he is being compared to the rookies.
that was part 2 read what he posted so you dont look so stupid

@ hmph bro you see at the top where it said manga click that or open in a new tab then find the page and then post the url give that a try :)
 
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where do you get that from
4-tail naruto was able to do a bijuu ball that can change landscape the v2 jin haven't shown shit, 4-tail naruto was so corosive that you can't get close. The kusanagi was said to be able cut through diamond and enma staff transformation which is compare to diamond staff was hurt fighting against orochimaru's kusanagi, that kusanagi was not able to pierce 4-tail naruto infact i think kusanagi is the sharpest weapon. The kyuubi was durable enough to tank two rasenshuriken while gamabunta sword cut shukaku arm and minato's kunai and sasuke chidori sword cut 8 hachibi tail don't compare their durability at all.
 

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4-tail naruto was able to do a bijuu ball that can change landscape the v2 jin haven't shown shit, 4-tail naruto was so corosive that you can't get close. The kusanagi was said to be able cut through diamond and enma staff transformation which is compare to diamond staff was hurt fighting against orochimaru's kusanagi, that kusanagi was not able to pierce 4-tail naruto infact i think kusanagi is the sharpest weapon. The kyuubi was durable enough to tank two rasenshuriken while gamabunta sword cut shukaku arm and minato's kunai and sasuke chidori sword cut 8 hachibi tail don't compare their durability at all.
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