Part 2 Sakura VS Part 1 Sauske

[UzumakiNaruto20]

No noticeable difference between a Kakashi who is two years older and more powerful, and specifically said he wasn't holding back, vs a Kakashi from two years in the past and was casually reading a book while fighting?

Like I said Kakashi was forced to put up the book when he fought Sasuke.

And please actually read what I wrote. I said his Taijutsu increase was nothing significant. You can confirm this in the databook.


And tell me how will she counter the curse mark? Now that we know it is a Sage Mode Derivative there is no way she can hit him.

 

[Ender Wiggin]

She turns him into road kill. His strenght or speed can't match part two sakura.

 

[Joki]

Like I said Kakashi was forced to put up the book when he fought Sasuke.

And please actually read what I wrote. I said his Taijutsu increase was nothing significant. You can confirm this in the databook.


And tell me how will she counter the curse mark? Now that we know it is a Sage Mode Derivative there is no way she can hit him.

Yes, exactly my point. He was legitimately reading a damn book, having to stop reading a book to use his free hand to block an attack does not constitute as impressive. He also wasn't touching his book at all when fighting the two, he was one hundred percent serious. Also I'd like to point out the statistics in the databook don't go by "1, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3", there are only 9 total databook stats. Just because one doesn't go up doesn't mean Kakashi didn't improve, but regardless he was just toying with Sasuke.

Just because we know Karin is an Uzumaki now, does not put her on Kushina, Mito, Naruto, etc.'s level. That's very flawed logic, Sasuke is still Sasuke regardless of what the curse mark is originated from.

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

Yes, exactly my point. He was legitimately reading a damn book, having to stop reading a book to use his free hand to block an attack does not constitute as impressive.

I never said it was impressive, I just said that it was a lot better than what Sakura did. Note that Sasuke even managed to get his fingers near the bells.

What did Sakura get? Nothing but air. She should have did better considering she was a Chunin at that time.

He also wasn't touching his book at all when fighting the two, he was one hundred percent serious.

100% serious? Are you joking? It was a bell test! If he was 100% serious Naruto would long have been knocked out with genjutsu and Sakura would've got a serious beatdown. He's a high ranking jonin it was more like hide and seek for him.

Also I'd like to point out the statistics in the databook don't go by "1, 1.1, 1.2, 1.3", there are only 9 total databook stats. Just because one doesn't go up doesn't mean Kakashi didn't improve, but regardless he was just toying with Sasuke.

So your saying that an increase of .5 is something impressive? I doubt it.

Just because we know Karin is an Uzumaki now, does not put her on Kushina, Mito, Naruto, etc.'s level.

That's irrelevant.

That's very flawed logic, Sasuke is still Sasuke regardless of what the curse mark is originated from.

Don't dodge the question. I asked you what can she do when Sasuke activates the curse mark? Once Sasuke goes air borne she can't hit him. And he can easily get her with fire style.

 

[Joki]

I never said it was impressive, I just said that it was a lot better than what Sakura did. Note that Sasuke even managed to get his fingers near the bells.

You mean fighting with a Kakashi who was actually trying and not easily handling Sasuke with one hand while focusing near entirely on a book?

What did Sakura get? Nothing but air. She should have did better considering she was a Chunin at that time.

Okay. If someone runs after a bicycle and just manages to touch its tire, this doesn't mean they're faster than someone who runs after a motorcycle but doesn't touch anything because it's too fast. Besides, this is where Medical Ninja excel, evasion, which is perfect when Sasuke uses the sharingan-less, incomplete chidori to charge at Sakura.

100% serious? Are you joking? It was a bell test! If he was 100% serious Naruto would long have been knocked out with genjutsu and Sakura would've got a serious beatdown. He's a high ranking jonin it was more like hide and seek for him.

Yeah..if Naruto had followed his advice and actually tried to kill I'd doubt that have happened. Kakashi: I'm not holding back this time!
back then: *casually reading a book while destroying Sasuke in a taijutsu match*

So your saying that an increase of .5 is something impressive? I doubt it.

Oh, it actually did increase? Yes, then it actually is quite impressive. As compared to the end of Part 1 Sasuke's stats...and this time around he's also without sharingan?

That's irrelevant.

Considering you dropped the relevant point it was related to, apparently not.

Don't dodge the question. I asked you what can she do when Sasuke activates the curse mark? Once Sasuke goes air borne she can't hit him. And he can easily get her with fire style.

He can't fly. Sakura dodged Itachi's katons before and again she is a medical ninja. These things won't do much to her. One touch and Sasuke is dead, he will not beat Sakura unscathed, without sharingan pre-recognition to boot.

 

[UzumakiNaruto20]

You mean fighting with a Kakashi who was actually trying and not easily handling Sasuke with one hand while focusing near entirely on a book?

Yes thats what I'm saying. Your saying that Kakashi taijutsu part 2 is >>>>>>>>>>>> part 1 like he is just so much better.

And now that I look at the second databook which ends at chapter 27 (Naruto vs Sasuke) Kakashi Taijutsu is actually 4.5

Guess what it is in the third databook? 4.5 So it's still roughly the same.

Okay. If someone runs after a bicycle and just manages to touch its tire, this doesn't mean they're faster than someone who runs after a motorcycle but doesn't touch anything because it's too fast.

Terrible analogy. Basically your saying that Kakashi's speed went from a bicycle in part one to a motorcycle in part 2.

In fact, his speed did not increase between the second and third databooks.

Besides, this is where Medical Ninja excel, evasion, which is perfect when Sasuke uses the sharingan-less, incomplete chidori to charge at Sakura.

You can't use the "Medical Ninja excuse" to say that she will evade all of his attacks. He is likely to get her before he runs out of chakra. And I never said he would use Chidori, it would be stupid if he did.

Yeah..if Naruto had followed his advice and actually tried to kill I'd doubt that have happened. Kakashi: I'm not holding back this time!

Again if Kakashi was serious he would've taken Naruto out with genjutsu. Naruto has no defense for it.

back then: *casually reading a book while destroying Sasuke in a taijutsu match*

As opposed to Sakura who was no match at all

Oh, it actually did increase? Yes, then it actually is quite impressive. As compared to the end of Part 1 Sasuke's stats...and this time around he's also without sharingan?

Never mind that nothing increased at all.

Considering you dropped the relevant point it was related to, apparently not.

I didn't drop the point it was related to. Uzumaki has nothing to do with the cursed seal. And like I said what can Sakura do with the cursed seal when it is a derivative of Jugo's Dragon Sage Mode? She can't hit him because of his increased reflexes. Stamina and Chakra are boosted so it's all in Sasuke's favor.

He can't fly.

He can fly with the cursed seal. Go look it up.

Sakura dodged Itachi's katons before and again she is a medical ninja. These things won't do much to her.

That was 30% Itachi using someone else's body. His attacks were on a way lower scale. And trust if Itachi had it in for Sakura she would be dead.

One touch and Sasuke is dead, he will not beat Sakura unscathed, without sharingan pre-recognition to boot.

Her monster strength won't be effective against his cursed seal, especially if he is flying.

He has full advantage in this situation.