Nagato is easily > Itachi

[Easyfathom]

I agree on Nagato being better. However you exaggerated a bit on how much and you're completely underestimating Itachi

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

You say Itachi sealed Nagato due to plot no jutsu. But Kishi created Itachi, and Nagato, and wrote that Itachi beat Nagato. so overall. Itachi > Nagato. Lools. how can you say that Nagato is stronger than what the writer him self put down.

Silly fools.

No just no :sy:

 

[Anub]

I think it's a little offensive to say Itachi is in anyway > a healthy Nagato aside from intelligence. If Nagato was healthy, and he was to face Itachi, he would absolutely destroy him.

- It has been noted at several points in time that Nagato possessed an unusually large amount of exceptionally strong chakra; Itachi certainly does not.
- He mastered all five basic nature transformations, something that was completely unprecedented.
- Shinra Tensei
- Chibaku Tensei
- Gedo Mazo and its soul dragon
- Asura Path and its fire power
- Human Path can take Itachi's soul
- Naraka Path and king of hell
- Animal Path and its summons
- Naruto even noted that since he was using his real body, the strength and speed of his techniques were on a much higher level than when it was Pain.

Don't even bring up the time when Itachi sealed Nagato because even a blind man can see that that was PLOT-NO-JUTSU.

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Nagato in this form would pawn Itachi. You think Itachi can stop this?

Look, Itachi is a very powerful shinobi, top 10 IMO. But compared to Nagato he is a measly 1/10.

Way to go to extremes ... According to you Nagato has no weaknesses bad job. You've successfully shown one side of the fight, but have failed to bring any evidence of the other side's capabilities. This thread is more biased than all the Itachi "fanboys" put together. So I will reply with this, accept it or not: Itachi vs Nagato will not have a 100% winner. Most likely one of those two will win 60/100 while the other 40/100. They both have weaknesses and strengths. If you put up a one sided argument, don't expect to be taken seriously.

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

What will speed do against a person that you cant touch because your soul will get sucked out or even your chakra? Itachi can run around/behind/on top Nagato all he wants but he ain't going to attack him directly head on or even use a ninjutsu based attack because frankly they are all useless against Preta Path and Human Path abilities.

Bold: Um yes he has? The whole point me of saying Nagato being able to sense Amaterasu while Itachi is about to use it makes your point irrelevent. As for Totsuka Sword, in order to use it Itachi's full armoured Susano has to be in range, which is not going to be easy because of these reasons:
- Shinra Tensei to further away the distance
- Nagato being able to fly, with or without his summon
- Banshou Tenin to possibly pull Totsuka sword from Susano's hands


Again like I said in my first post, Itachi may only possibly win if he catches Nagato with his Tsukuyomi, if. But the odds are against him as Nagato has higher chances of winning. U_U

He doesn't need the 3rd stage of Susanoo to use it Orochimaru was looking for it his whole life. The sword has no psychical form he just equipped it with susanoo.

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irrelevent :rofl: like i said Amaterasu is the disadvantage for nagato he can't even run or walk he already brought down his summoning with ease 4 of them :rofl: even level 1 Riduko Mode naruto couldn't o please bro i wanna see any of the path rush itachi. even if he did use almighty push he can still use Amaterasu from a distant.

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[Makoto Uchiha]

are u guys crazy. itachi could rape nagato alive

 

[Pizcobaby]

HAHAHA No. Itachi => Nagato.

His Tsukuyomi alone disables all peins, they are all connected!?... so... there end of argument? Whether or not his Susano could bare the brunt of Chibaku Tensei IDK but i personally believe it would buy him enough time to do something. Not to mention Itachi trumps all peins in speed. Should the Tsukuyomi justsu not disable all then I think Itachi is able to kill or mortally wound Nagato before his death.

Therefore Itachi=> Nagato.

 

[nrm1]

Ok so nagato yes he is pretty damn good but i think itachi would have won in a straight up fight. nagato was a little drama queen just like saskue maybe a little calmer but emo just like him. nagatos biggest advantage was that his powers where unseen in the ninja world and the fact his real body was not in the fight. if jiraya would have figured this out a little sooner he would have been dead long ago, nagato even admits this himself. and this whole plot no justu is stupid, ITACHI BEAT NAGATO plan and simple. he read his moves and in no time at all came up with an idea to take him out you guys can make up all the reasons you want but this is called DENIAL cause your in love with nagato. plot no justu does not exist if kishi writes in the manga that itachi beat him than guess what itachi is stronger plan and simple. you can what if it to death if you want but the results wont change in the end. Nagato pulled out all his best moves on itachi and itachi counterd them with ease. nagato was not that great, once his secrets are uncovered a number of people would have been able to take him out. true power is when people know what you can do and what your going to do and still cant do shit about it

 

[Makoto Uchiha]

if itachi did not help killer bee and naruto. nagato would have raped them both... even if he doesn't have the power or chakra to do something he can still find a way

 

[Pizcobaby]

Ok so nagato yes he is pretty damn good but i think itachi would have won in a straight up fight. nagato was a little drama queen just like saskue maybe a little calmer but emo just like him. nagatos biggest advantage was that his powers where unseen in the ninja world and the fact his real body was not in the fight. if jiraya would have figured this out a little sooner he would have been dead long ago, nagato even admits this himself. and this whole plot no justu is stupid, ITACHI BEAT NAGATO plan and simple. he read his moves and in no time at all came up with an idea to take him out you guys can make up all the reasons you want but this is called DENIAL cause your in love with nagato. plot no justu does not exist if kishi writes in the manga that itachi beat him than guess what itachi is stronger plan and simple. you can what if it to death if you want but the results wont change in the end. Nagato pulled out all his best moves on itachi and itachi counterd them with ease. nagato was not that great, once his secrets are uncovered a number of people would have been able to take him out. true power is when people know what you can do and what your going to do and still cant do shit about it

yeap...

 

[Narubro]

guys... in the manga.... it shows Nagato being defeated only with the help of Itachi, Bee, and Naruto...

If Itachi could have "found a way" without assistance then he probably would have

Nagato knows all about Itachi's abilities so I doubt he would allow himself to fall prey to Tsukuyomi

As for the guy who keeps ranting on and on about legendary items, they prove ineffective to Chibaku Tensei (since it is an orb of gravity, and last I checked the items do not prove immune to the laws of Physics).

Nagato could Shinra Tensei Amaterasu off, so that argument is ineffective. I am not saying Nagato rapes, but he definitely has a better shot of winning than Itachi.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

He doesn't need the 3rd stage of Susanoo to use it Orochimaru was looking for it his whole life. The sword has no psychical form he just equipped it with susanoo.

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irrelevent :rofl: like i said Amaterasu is the disadvantage for nagato he can't even run or walk he already brought down his summoning with ease 4 of them :rofl: even level 1 Riduko Mode naruto couldn't o please bro i wanna see any of the path rush itachi. even if he did use almighty push he can still use Amaterasu from a distant.

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You are simply not thinking ahead or plain fact that you dont understand of what I'm trying to say. Nagato not being able to walk or run doesnt matter because Nagato can sense an Amaterasu coming. Now what do you normally do when you know an attack is coming? You prepare a counter for it, which Nagato can easily do. That's my whole point of Amaterasu being useless because apparently a lot of pressure is given out when using it.

Why have you brought up about summons? Last time I checked I never mentioned them but now you have mentioned them, it would be interesting to see how Itachi reacts towards the the Chameleon summoning which Nagato can go inside and be invisible. Anyway Nagato's summoning is not my focus here.

Again Itachi's speed doesnt matter against someone like Nagato whom you cant really touch because of Preta Path and Human Path. Nagato doesnt need to rush towards Itachi because he has Banshou Tenin :sy:. Lastly it doesnt matter what stage it requires for Totsuka sword it still has to be close towards Nagato.

 

[livotisama]

Yeh we know nagato can beat itachi.
Rinnegan >>> M sharingan

Eyes are tools, a perfect stone shooter can defeat a very good shuriken user so watch out!!! with itachi, every jutsuhas a weak points and gets them no hard reflection.

 

[Itachi Hatake]

guys... in the manga.... it shows Nagato being defeated only with the help of Itachi, Bee, and Naruto...

If Itachi could have "found a way" without assistance then he probably would have

Nagato knows all about Itachi's abilities so I doubt he would allow himself to fall prey to Tsukuyomi

As for the guy who keeps ranting on and on about legendary items, they prove ineffective to Chibaku Tensei (since it is an orb of gravity, and last I checked the items do not prove immune to the laws of Physics).

Nagato could Shinra Tensei Amaterasu off, so that argument is ineffective. I am not saying Nagato rapes, but he definitely has a better shot of winning than Itachi.

When he used Shinra Tensei he was already hit, the only reason he survived was because he could regenerate because of Edo Tensei

 

[Narubro]

Eyes are tools, a perfect stone shooter can defeat a very good shuriken user so watch out!!! with itachi, every jutsuhas a weak points and gets them no hard reflection.

rinnengan is more than a tool, it has no weakness except being blitzed by OP characters

 

[Narubro]

When he used Shinra Tensei he was already hit, the only reason he survived was because he could regenerate because of Edo Tensei

plot-no-jutsu, so that itachi could explain komoakatsumi, otherwise it would be an instant breakout

 

[FloriGlori]

What will speed do against a person that you cant touch because your soul will get sucked out or even your chakra? Itachi can run around/behind/on top Nagato all he wants but he ain't going to attack him directly head on or even use a ninjutsu based attack because frankly they are all useless against Preta Path and Human Path abilities.

Bold: Um yes he has? The whole point me of saying Nagato being able to sense Amaterasu while Itachi is about to use it makes your point irrelevent. As for Totsuka Sword, in order to use it Itachi's full armoured Susano has to be in range, which is not going to be easy because of these reasons:
- Shinra Tensei to further away the distance
- Nagato being able to fly, with or without his summon
- Banshou Tenin to possibly pull Totsuka sword from Susano's hands

It's not like Nagato needs to be touched in order to rip out Itachi's soul. It's basicly the other way around - Nagato needs to lay a hand on Itachi, which won't be an easy task considering Susanoo and Itachi's formidable Taijutsu skills. Of course I'm not saying that he couldn't be repelled by Shinra Tensei or that Susanoo couldn't be absorbed. As for the 'Itachi ain't going to attack him directly head on' part, for that exact reason Itachi can revert to artful techniques like Karasu Bunshin or exploding Mizu Bunshin, which are by all means an inherent part of his regular fighting style. Itachi won't just rush into Nagato - that much should be obvious.

I say that..

- Nagato failed to sense Amaterasu. He merely felt a certain air-pressure around Itachi, just like Zetsu did back then. Yet it didn't come when Nagato thought it would. His question 'It's not Amaterasu..?' supports that claim. Furthermore, even if he could exactly sense it, he couldn't sense where it'll appear.

- a fully armored Susanoo can withstand Shinra Tensei to a certain degree. Not to mention that the huge blade of Totsuka covers any kind of range, which is also stated in the third databook.

- Nagato can't just fly like you say he could, like Oonoki.

- pulling Totsuka no Tsurugi in would be pointless, since a) Susanoo's grip is most likely too strong and b) it appears and disappears with Susanoo. Yata no Kagami could definitely not be pulled in, since it has no actual substance but is rather pure spiritual energy. I'm sure you're aware of that, but I still read stuff like that alot.

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

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You are simply not thinking ahead or plain fact that you dont understand of what I'm trying to say. Nagato not being able to walk or run doesnt matter because Nagato can sense an Amaterasu coming. Now what do you normally do when you know an attack is coming? You prepare a counter for it, which Nagato can easily do. That's my whole point of Amaterasu being useless because apparently a lot of pressure is given out when using it.

Why have you brought up about summons? Last time I checked I never mentioned them but now you have mentioned them, it would be interesting to see how Itachi reacts towards the the Chameleon summoning which Nagato can go inside and be invisible. Anyway Nagato's summoning is not my focus here.

Again Itachi's speed doesnt matter against someone like Nagato whom you cant really touch because of Preta Path and Human Path. Nagato doesnt need to rush towards Itachi because he has Banshou Tenin :sy:. Lastly it doesnt matter what stage it requires for Totsuka sword it still has to be close towards Nagato.

:rofl: now you can't even back track what you said :rofl:

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What will speed do against a person that you cant touch because your soul will get sucked out or even your chakra? Itachi can run around/behind/on top Nagato all he wants but he ain't going to attack him directly head on or even use a ninjutsu based attack because frankly they are all useless against Preta Path and Human Path abilities.

Bold: Um yes he has? The whole point me of saying Nagato being able to sense Amaterasu while Itachi is about to use it makes your point irrelevent. As for Totsuka Sword, in order to use it Itachi's full armoured Susano has to be in range, which is not going to be easy because of these reasons:
- Shinra Tensei to further away the distance
- Nagato being able to fly, with or without his summon
- Banshou Tenin to possibly pull Totsuka sword from Susano's hands.

He had more then enough time to counter Kabuto & Nagato realized he was released from the Edo jutsu and even had a few words to put in before that .

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Hiding in his summoning and going invisible won't helt because the sharigan lets you see the flow of chakra.

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Any more excuses bro cause the only think he'll get ready for is the burns xd

 

[phoenixforcexD]

itachi wins this

 

[Narutopedia]

I think Itachi could win this one. we already know that Nagato is weak against genjutsu as stated from Jiraya during the battle betveen them, wich would be a houge disadvantage when figthing Itachi. remember this

 

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:rofl: now you can't even back track what you said :rofl:

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What will speed do against a person that you cant touch because your soul will get sucked out or even your chakra? Itachi can run around/behind/on top Nagato all he wants but he ain't going to attack him directly head on or even use a ninjutsu based attack because frankly they are all useless against Preta Path and Human Path abilities.

Bold: Um yes he has? The whole point me of saying Nagato being able to sense Amaterasu while Itachi is about to use it makes your point irrelevent. As for Totsuka Sword, in order to use it Itachi's full armoured Susano has to be in range, which is not going to be easy because of these reasons:
- Shinra Tensei to further away the distance
- Nagato being able to fly, with or without his summon
- Banshou Tenin to possibly pull Totsuka sword from Susano's hands.

He had more then enough time to counter Kabuto & Nagato realized he was released from the Edo jutsu and even had a few words to put in before that .

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Hiding in his summoning and going invisible won't helt because the sharigan lets you see the flow of chakra.

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Any more excuses bro cause the only think he'll get ready for is the burns xd

Yeah what part of "with or without" dont you get? I meant that Nagato still has that option to use, like I said Nagato's summons isnt my focus as I know that Itachi can sort that out.

LOL that doesnt change the fact that Nagato can still sense an Amaterasu coming :sy: . In fact the more Itachi delays an Amaterasu attack the more it benefits for Nagato to counter.

Now its my turn to ask you how Itachi would counter these possible attacks from Nagato. U_U

- Multiple summons present, like the ones that rampaged througout Konoha
- Banshou Tenin with meteor

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- All Elemental attacks from Nagato
- Nuke scale Shinra Tensei
- Chibaku Tensei

Please elaborate how Itachi would counter these bearing in mind how MS takes it toll on the user, also bearing in mind that Itachi hasn't got the greatest Chakra Stamina.