Madara making Hashi look good!!

[Mercury Uzumaki]

Seems like the longer this fight between Madara and the kages last the Stronger Hashi seems.

The fact that he copying all of Hashi's moves we get a glimpse into his greatness.

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1)Jukai Koutan
2)Tree World & Flower Tree World
3)Mokuton Clone Jutsu
4)Mokuton Bushin No Jutsu
5)Byakugou

Here is the Youtube Clip Of the battle between Hashi and Madara

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As strong as Madara is would he still have been alive without Mokuton?

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The 1st is also the shinobi who tamed and destributed The tailed beastd distributed them to each nation. Even Kabuto stated "people who saw his power considered him a myth like the Rikudou Sennin" and there were no ninjas on his level anymore(He hasn't seen KM Naruto yet).

Just wanted to compile some of Hashis Feats since we don't get to see the to much of man. Hope you enjoy

PS: How do people not rate him top 5?

 

[kotoamatsukami]

naw hashi making madara look good

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

naw hashi making madara look good

I like that

 

[Smirk]

ehh, what do you expect from the person who made the village

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Posting a video of a Naruto game battle? Irrelevant much?

Madara has shown no skills that are incredibly impressive other than rinnegan abilities.

Those jutsus that you mentioned have done literally nothing to anyone.

1)Jukai Koutan - destroyed by clones of a Naruto clone who had 0 of his own chakra, and a tiny percent of the 9-tails chakra.

2)Tree World & Flower Tree World - Looked impressive, did absolutely nothing to the kages though.

3)Mokuton Clone Jutsu - Just a clone. It is the same as any other clone. Clones are clones, whether they are made of rock, clay, crows, lightning, etc.

4)Tajuu Mokuton Bushin No Jutsu - Multiple clones. Impressive. Except for the fact that I have seen Naruto make more clones in the very first chapter of Naruto. Literally anyone can make clones. Perhaps not this many, but I can name several people who could easily make 25 clones.

5)Byakugou - Is this Hashirama's jutsu? I believe it is Tsunade's. How would Madara know what jutsu Hashirama and Tsunade are using? It doesn't require hand signs.

Even if it is Hashirama's jutsu, it still is a double-edged sword as it takes years off the user's life.


People are overrating Hashirama. What makes Madara impressive is not Hashirama's jutsus that have done next to nothing, it is the EMS + Rinnegan.

Rinnegan abilities>>>>>>> Mokuton

Had Madara actually been using rinnegan abilities then this battle would have been over already. I'm not a hater, I'm just realistic.

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

Posting a video of a Naruto game battle? Irrelevant much?

Madara has shown no skills that are incredibly impressive other than rinnegan abilities.

Those jutsus that you mentioned have done literally nothing to anyone.

1)Jukai Koutan - destroyed by clones of a Naruto clone who had 0 of his own chakra, and a tiny percent of the 9-tails chakra.

2)Tree World & Flower Tree World - Looked impressive, did absolutely nothing to the kages though.

3)Mokuton Clone Jutsu - Just a clone. It is the same as any other clone. Clones are clones, whether they are made of rock, clay, crows, lightning, etc.

4)Tajuu Mokuton Bushin No Jutsu - Multiple clones. Impressive. Except for the fact that I have seen Naruto make more clones in the very first chapter of Naruto. Literally anyone can make clones. Perhaps not this many, but I can name several people who could easily make 25 clones.

5)Byakugou - Is this Hashirama's jutsu? I believe it is Tsunade's. How would Madara know what jutsu Hashirama and Tsunade are using? It doesn't require hand signs.

Even if it is Hashirama's jutsu, it still is a double-edged sword as it takes years off the user's life.


People are overrating Hashirama. What makes Madara impressive is not Hashirama's jutsus that have done next to nothing, it is the EMS + Rinnegan.

Rinnegan abilities>>>>>>> Mokuton

Had Madara actually been using rinnegan abilities then this battle would have been over already. I'm not a hater, I'm just realistic.

Tree world & flower tree world - Next to nothing? Fist Madara is fighting Kages. You act like this dosn't matter. If it were not for Oonoki the fight would have already been over from inhailing the spores. So it do something .

Jukai koutan - would have also finished Gaara, Oonokiand any other shinobi tha was there if Naruto would not have stoped it which was also an impressive move. Also even if it was very little chakra do you realize how much chakra the kyubi has? A little from him is more than great shinobi's like Kakashi and Itachi.

Byakugou - your right not Hashi's move his is better, dosn't take Life energy only name I had to use was Byakugou so I went with it.

Tajuu Mokuton Bushin no jutsu - Regardless if Naruto can make more clones this is Very impressive and whose to say hashi can't or madara can't? It was clear he wanted to make 5 on 1 so he made 25 does'nt mean he cant make more. We also havn't seen how strong these clones are yet.

How is the video Irrelavent? You have no proof that Hashi didn't create this story. I saw a picture of Hashi standing on his Mokuton with his swords way before the Video came out. Then it just happenes to pop up the same way on the video. Which dosn't prove the video to be true or false but is a big coincidence.

Looked up the game on Google it says :
It is based on the Naruto manga series by Masashi Kishimoto.
Additionally, the game shows original storylines produced by the group in charge of Naruto's animated adaptations, Studio Pierrot.

Not trying to overrate Hashi,Kishi did that when he made Kabuto Say He was considered to be a legend like the So6P, and there were no shinobi's as strong as him anymore. Also he was thinking this to himself so why would he lie? Seems like you underate the Sage's body because you seem to think that His eyes are stronger. Rinnegan is an upgrade to the sharingan keep this in mind. But The Sage's younger son = WoN , Hashi against Madara, Hashi = WoN, Naruto vs Nagato = Naruto = WoN
you could have Shringan or rinnegan your destined to lose because that is Kishi's plot if you like it or not.

Seems to me your underating Hashi. And Rinnegan is amazing period. But you doesn't take anything away from Mokuton because its not the rinnegan.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Madara has been mixing it up before he checked under his shirt he used uchiha base jutsu including the rinnegan powers then he started testing out moukton

Amaretsu tyokiuoumi full susanoo ems extra jutsu are too easy

 

[Ryuu..]

Hashirama is definately top 5.........

 

[Bijuu13]

he talks about him TOO highly if you ask me lol . show some backbone strongest uchiha ever, your his old rival

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Tree world & flower tree world - Next to nothing? Fist Madara is fighting Kages. You act like this dosn't matter. If it were not for Oonoki the fight would have already been over from inhailing the spores. So it do something .

Jukai koutan - would have also finished Gaara, Oonokiand any other shinobi tha was there if Naruto would not have stoped it which was also an impressive move. Also even if it was very little chakra do you realize how much chakra the kyubi has? A little from him is more than great shinobi's like Kakashi and Itachi.

Byakugou - your right not Hashi's move his is better, dosn't take Life energy only name I had to use was Byakugou so I went with it.

Tajuu Mokuton Bushin no jutsu - Regardless if Naruto can make more clones this is Very impressive and whose to say hashi can't or madara can't? It was clear he wanted to make 5 on 1 so he made 25 does'nt mean he cant make more. We also havn't seen how strong these clones are yet.

How is the video Irrelavent? You have no proof that Hashi didn't create this story. I saw a picture of Hashi standing on his Mokuton with his swords way before the Video came out. Then it just happenes to pop up the same way on the video. Which dosn't prove the video to be true or false but is a big coincidence.

Looked up the game on Google it says :
It is based on the Naruto manga series by Masashi Kishimoto.
Additionally, the game shows original storylines produced by the group in charge of Naruto's animated adaptations, Studio Pierrot.

Not trying to overrate Hashi,Kishi did that when he made Kabuto Say He was considered to be a legend like the So6P, and there were no shinobi's as strong as him anymore. Also he was thinking this to himself so why would he lie? Seems like you underate the Sage's body because you seem to think that His eyes are stronger. Rinnegan is an upgrade to the sharingan keep this in mind. But The Sage's younger son = WoN , Hashi against Madara, Hashi = WoN, Naruto vs Nagato = Naruto = WoN
you could have Shringan or rinnegan your destined to lose because that is Kishi's plot if you like it or not.

Seems to me your underating Hashi. And Rinnegan is amazing period. But you doesn't take anything away from Mokuton because its not the rinnegan.

The video is 100% irrelevant. It is a dumb video with footage from a game. I have seen it and it uses like 3 of Madara's possible moves. If I am not mistaken he doesn't even use Susanoo, really now?

That video is just plain retarded, and it isn't canon.

As for me underrating the Sage's body, I don't think I am. Naruto actually lost to Nagato, the 9-tails was what saved him. Which coincidentally enough is probably what saved hashirama from Madara. The manga says that Hashirama gained control of the 9-tails during that battle. So instead of it being Madara + the 9tails, it ended up being Hashirama + the 9-tails vs. Madara.

Bringing the 9-tails to that fight hurt Madara more than anything else. Mokuton is overrated. Literally zero people have been hurt by it so far. Even Hiruzen in his old age was able to be broken out of mokuton and then was able to dodge mokuton attacks.

As for the clones, you clearly aren't understanding what I am saying. Making clones isn't restricted to Hashirama, so how is that showcasing his abilities? It seems like it is more showcasing Edo Madara and the apparently endless chakra he has.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

only an idiot would consider scene from video games canon

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

The video is 100% irrelevant. It is a dumb video with footage from a game. I have seen it and it uses like 3 of Madara's possible moves. If I am not mistaken he doesn't even use Susanoo, really now?

That video is just plain retarded, and it isn't canon.

As for me underrating the Sage's body, I don't think I am. Naruto actually lost to Nagato, the 9-tails was what saved him. Which coincidentally enough is probably what saved hashirama from Madara. The manga says that Hashirama gained control of the 9-tails during that battle. So instead of it being Madara + the 9tails, it ended up being Hashirama + the 9-tails vs. Madara.

Bringing the 9-tails to that fight hurt Madara more than anything else. Mokuton is overrated. Literally zero people have been hurt by it so far. Even Hiruzen in his old age was able to be broken out of mokuton and then was able to dodge mokuton attacks.

As for the clones, you clearly aren't understanding what I am saying. Making clones isn't restricted to Hashirama, so how is that showcasing his abilities? It seems like it is more showcasing Edo Madara and the apparently endless chakra he has.

Thats just a piece of the battle between the 2. Kinda like beginning and end. Iv'e already proved its part of the storyline in my last post. The clipse may be off the video game but part of the original story, look it up!

No Hashi never used the 9 tails against Madara his Girl I think here name is Mito or something like that sealed it in herself after he took control of it.

I just went nack and checked out that Manga (wanted to add his Bringer of darkness to the list) and that was such a low level of Mokuton compared to what we have now seen ( which also shows Oro wasn't that great with Edo). If the 3rd was to fight kabutos Edo it woudn't have been much of a contest at his age.

Others can make clones but Not as many as Hashi. Keep in mind he's the one that banned Naruto's clone technique saying it was a forbidden Jutsu. Im sure he could use it. And maybe you misunderstand what im saying. We've never seen anyone use clone jutsu's on this scale thats all.

Funny you say Mokuton is overrated but when you look at it there is only 1 person that could use it, Kishi. (Yamato is a clone) Unless you took his DNA Like Madara and Danzo.Thats amazing on it's own. When you look at the rinnegan there have already been 3 people to use this tech Tobi , Nagato and S06ps. seems like there on par with each other to me.

In the Hashi against Madara fight, Madara lost and he had the 9 tails not the other way around. Unlike Madara Hashi didn't use the tailed beast for his own gain he used his skill.

The 9 tails chakra is part of Naruto period, he won the fight. Look at it this way you take the 9 tails from Naruto which was sealed in him (not his choice) and still mastered (well almost) its power. Then you wold have to take away the rinnegan from Nagato which was given to him by Tobi! That makes sense right?

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

only an idiot would consider scene from video games canon

I proved it was actually. The statement from earlier is from Google after I looked up Kishimoto on Naruto ultimate ninja generations on the official website. Funny You have no proof yourself , just talking out the side of your neck because you dont like the outcome. Woudn't say your an Idiot but would say your ignorant. Do me a favor Prove the video isn't cannon! Cause i've done my research now go do yours.

Oh yeah that Clip from the video game, Kishi is getting payed for, because it's his original storyline. Keep in mind the game represents the Manga/anime. Not just a video game tittled Naruto

Also Why you so insulting over nothing you uspset or somethin? Don't need to take your negative emmotions out on me buddy. That's the problem nowadays dudes act like females to damn emmotional start throwing insults around. I bet your the type that wears your little sisters skinny jeans lol. Keep the negativity to yourself cause I don't wanna deal with it. We were having a koo convo about Naruto didnt know it meant so much to you buddy.

That's the 2nd time I remember you from the OP post still a little upset?

 

[~Yubel~]

Madara have just been using mokuton + susanno and katon, if he would use ems or rinnegan techniques, it would´ve been over.

 

[-Jiraiya-]

Both are good. Although Madara clings too much to Hashirama's powers...

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

I proved it was actually. The statement from earlier is from Google after I looked up Kishimoto on Naruto ultimate ninja generations on the official website. Funny You have no proof yourself , just talking out the side of your neck because you dont like the outcome. Woudn't say your an Idiot but would say your ignorant. Do me a favor Prove the video isn't cannon! Cause i've done my research now go do yours.

Oh yeah that Clip from the video game, Kishi is getting payed for, because it's his original storyline. Keep in mind the game represents the Manga/anime. Not just a video game tittled Naruto

oh Lawl, it looks like you don't even understand what canon and non canon material is,

last time i check the manga is the only canon material, that's all i have to say unless you're saying that kishi actually a game developer and involved himself personally in making the video games, LOL you have no idea how busy a mangaka can be,

do me a favor, why don't you learn more about mangaka before reply to my post.

Also Why you so insulting over nothing you uspset or somethin? Don't need to take your negative emmotions out on me buddy. That's the problem nowadays dudes act like females to damn emmotional start throwing insults around. I bet your the type that wears your little sisters skinny jeans lol. Keep the negativity to yourself cause I don't wanna deal with it. We were having a koo convo about Naruto didnt know it meant so much to you buddy.

That's the 2nd time I remember you from the OP post still a little upset?

you mad bro ? am not even talking to you LOL

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

Both are good. Although Madara clings too much to Hashirama's powers...

I Agree. Saturating Madaras greatness with Hashis.

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

oh Lawl, it looks like you don't even understand what canon and non canon material is,

last time i check the manga is the only canon material, that's all i have to say unless you're saying that kishi actually a game developer and involved himself personally in making the video games, LOL you have no idea how busy a mangaka can be,

do me a favor, why don't you learn more about mangaka before reply to my post.



you mad bro ? am not even talking to you LOL

Never mad just real. Dissapointed in a lot of you boys calling yourselves men who act more like females. Just telling it like it is don't even mean to be insulting.

Canon means official right?

No he makes the story for the videogame. Dosn't have to make the videogame if he makes the storyline that would make it canon. I have no problem with your opinion, I do with your insults and Do yourself a favor and check again and like I said keep your negativity to yourself.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Canon means official right?

to be more exact in manga world the only thing that considered canon is the manga itself since its coming directly from the author, things such as anime filler/anime additional/video games scene considered non canon since its not coming directly from the author,

says kakashi can use wind in video games, but in manga they never show us kakashi use that and also there is this j-man tech that his rasengan fuse with fire element but in manga it never happened thus why its considered non canon, the same goes for that video.

No he makes the story for the videogame. Dosn't have to make the videogame if he makes the storyline that would make it canon. Do yourself a favor and check again and like I said keep your negativity to yourself. Misery loves company

:sy: the video games follow the original story line from the manga, and yeah the story line is canon but there are things that appear only in games and that stuff is not made by kishi, it was made by the ppl who create the video games

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

to be more exact in manga world the only thing that considered canon is the manga itself since its coming directly from the author, things such as anime filler/anime additional/video games scene considered non canon since its not coming directly from the author,

says kakashi can use wind in video games, but in manga they never show us kakashi use that and also there is this j-man tech that his rasengan fuse with fire element but in manga it never happened thus why its considered non canon, the same goes for that video.

So if Kishi writes the storyline in manga form, and passes it to the production company that makes it a videogame scenario it should still be considered canon. Just because you or I havn't seen it in the manga dosn't mean its not canon. If Kishi wrote wrote and drew it it's canon.