itachi and minato are not top 10

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You still havn't Given me Any Solid Reason for This.

lol weren't you the ones saying hashirama wasn't top 10 a few weeks ago tobirama will be shown


s/t and his water style will end him don't see how itachi gonna handle him
 

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You still havn't Given me Any Solid Reason for This.

It's impossible to give solid info because we know too little of Tobirama, I can't for sure say that he's top 10, but you can't prove that he's not

but going with how strong he was implied to be, I'd say he's either right behind, or 1 or 2 shinobi below Hashirama
 

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No need for me to comment on this abundance of ignorance , #FAIL , simply because of laws
#1 you don't have enough evidence to support your claim due to the fact the show doesn't have that many scenes of the mentioned characters and it also doesn't support you
 

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omg the tittle greatest water style user you seem to forget none of them can reach his level he dose normal water style which needs 42 hand seals with just 1

bro that's old news xd you haven't been paying attention recently? Mei can do the same thing as the "greatest water style user" but more efficiently and who cares about a 42 hand seal jutsu. Rasengan doesn't need any handsign so you are saying a simple kage bunshin jutsu like of naruto can withstand a Rasengan??

You are more obsessed with Tobirama than I thought. hm...
 

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lol weren't you the ones saying hashirama wasn't top 10 a few weeks ago tobirama will be shown


s/t and his water style will end him don't see how itachi gonna handle him

I can't remember saying Anything about Hashirama and him being in the Top 10.
Most of my arugments againsts him are Him Being in the Top 5.

His unknown S/T Could be Anything, and its More speculation, He will Need More than Water Jutsu's to Break through susanoo or Counter FTG.

Nor Can tobirama counter Itachi's One second tsukuyomi, Hasn't shown to be fast enough to Dodge amaterasu Nor has he shown Jutsu's Powerful enoguh to even Harm Susanoo, Let alone a susanoo with Spirit weapons.
 

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No need for me to comment on this abundance of ignorance , #FAIL , simply because of laws
#1 you don't have enough evidence to support your claim due to the fact the show doesn't have that many scenes of the mentioned characters and it also doesn't support you

oo did i hurt a minato fanboy feelings quick use your ftg and get lost :rolleyes:
 

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C,mon man...We know nothing about the SO6P's sons....They probably was as strong as Konohamaru
 

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I can't remember saying Anything about Hashirama and him being in the Top 10.
Most of my arugments againsts him are Him Being in the Top 5.

His unknown S/T Could be Anything, and its More speculation, He will Need More than Water Jutsu's to Break through susanoo or Counter FTG.

Nor can tobirama counter Itachi's One second tsukuyomi, Hasn't shown to be fast enoguh to Dodge amaterasu Nor has he shown Jutsu's Powerful enoguh to even Harm Susanoo, Let alone a susanoo with Spirit weapons.

But you gotta take into account that we don't know enough about his techs to really say whether or not his S/t tech is fast, and how useful his edo tensei actually is.

Remember before no one knew Hashirama could heal with no seals and now that we know he can, his hype has been through the roof, No one knew his Mokuton could make sleep inducing spores about 3 months ago, and now because of that, Hashirama's bandwagon couldn't be any bigger.

I'm not gonna scream and say that he's strong as Hashirama, but I seriously think Tobirama is being underrated by ppl because we don't know what he can do
 

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But you gotta take into account that we don't know enough about his techs to really say whether or not his S/t tech is fast, and how useful his edo tensei actually is.

Remember before no one knew Hashirama could heal with no seals and now that we know he can, his hype has been through the roof, No one knew his Mokuton could make sleep inducing spores about 3 months ago, and now because of that, Hashirama's bandwagon couldn't be any bigger.

I'm not gonna scream and say that he's strong as Hashirama, but I seriously think Tobirama is being underrated by ppl because we don't know what he can do

fully agree with you there 100 percent
 

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But you gotta take into account that we don't know enough about his techs to really say whether or not his S/t tech is fast, and how useful his edo tensei actually is.

Remember before no one knew Hashirama could heal with no seals and now that we know he can, his hype has been through the roof, No one knew his Mokuton could make sleep inducing spores about 3 months ago, and now because of that, Hashirama's bandwagon couldn't be any bigger.

I'm not gonna scream and say that he's strong as Hashirama, but I seriously think Tobirama is being underrated by ppl because we don't know what he can do

Untill we Know what his S/T Is you can't really use it as an Excuse why he Is able to Beat ot Might be able to Beat Minato/Itachi.

Because we dont know how can you say we Underrate him, How do you no you aint just Overrating him?.

It's like People saying Minato Had Sage Mode, Madara's EMS being able to Turn back time and so On.

It's Pure speculation and shouldn't be used in Vs Threads or as an excuse Untill it's Proven.
 

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Untill we Know what his S/T Is you can't really use it as an Excuse why he Is able to Beat ot Might be able to Beat Minato/Itachi.

Because we dont know how can you say we Underrate him, How do you no you aint just Overrating him?.

It's like People saying Minato Had Sage Mode, Madara's EMS being able to Turn back time and so On.

It's Pure speculation and shouldn't be used in Vs Threads or as an excuse Untill it's Proven.

it isn't speculation he had s/t kishi will reveal
 

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Untill we Know what his S/T Is you can't really use it as an Excuse why he Is able to Beat ot Might be able to Beat Minato/Itachi.

It's like People saying Minato Had Sage Mode, Madara's EMS being able to Turn back time and so On.

It's Pure speculation and shouldn't be used in Vs Threads or as an excuse Untill it's Proven.

I agree to an extent, but take into account this is Hashirama's bro, he made edo tensei, a S/t tech, was a world renowned water expert, and was said to be skillful with kenjutsu, and to top it off, we know next to nothing on him, honestly just his resume alone is worthy of a top 10 spot, you have to admit that
 

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am 98 percent sure he beat itachi

90 percent sure he beat minato

Tobirama:
S/T ninjutsu
Considered the best Suiton user in the manga(hype)
Edo Tensie - one of the most haxed jutsus to date. What we do know is that he was not as skilled as orochimaru or Kabuto
Was said to be incredibly skilled in taijutsu and hand to hand combat
Tracking


Minato:
S/T ninjutsu
S/T barrier
Incredibly fast
Tracking
Death God

The deciding factor would be the workings or limitations of Tobiramas S/T jutsu. If his S/T jutsu is on par(which I highly doubt) or is just good enough to negate Minatos the best I see Minato doing is tagging Tobirama with the death god.
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Itachi stamina will eventually get to him when he has to use Susanoo which will make him fatigued. Itachi's Susanno haves Yata Mirror which can nullify all atacks and 1 hit from Sword of Totsuka and Tobirama is trapped in the genjutsu world forever. So he can end this fast enough and still have some stamina left.
 

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I agree to an extent, but take into account this is Hashirama's bro, he made edo tensei, a S/t tech, was a world renowned water expert, and was said to be skillful with kenjutsu, and to top it off, we know next to nothing on him, honestly just his resume alone is worthy of a top 10 spot, you have to admit that

C'mon man! Just a myth isn't going to make him a top 10! Minato's S/t Tech has to be better than Tobirama's since Minato came after Tobirama which means he must have know Tobirama's S/t techs and so he improved it. All that S/t can do is teleport an object from one place to another so I don't know how that's going to help Tobirama against Minato and I think it was said in the manga that Minato improved the S/t to a point where he could use it in actual battle! xd

P.S. After tomorrow's manga, we will truly find out whether Tobirama can beat itachi or not so don't go anywhere and wait till tomorrow. Thank you! xd
 
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