Why Jiraiya > Sasuke

[Ambriel]

This isnt even a battle, jiraiya gets owned worst then when pain killed him.

 

[-Vegeta-]

Yep, this wasting precious chakra.

And when has chakra reserves ever been an issue for Sasuke? Since he's come out with EMS he's used full susanoo twice, susanoo ribcage once, and genjutsu, and doesn't look the least bit exhausted.

 

[Sasuke Fan Hater]

Summonings?, lets see what sasuke has genjutsu used to control manda.
If sasuke gains control of a frog that jiraiya has summoned and gets into his stomach to try and get into sm, sasuke can control the frog and tell it to swallow jiraiya

Danzo nor kakashi were able to evade susano arrow. Jiraiya in base is slow if you add the fact that in his sandals he is even slower be isnt evading a susano arrow and neither is any of his summonings.

Amaterasu on the fastest attacks in the series, even in sm jiraiya;s speed is inferior to A in v1 raiton let alnoe v2. Similarly summonings are easy target for amaterasu as we saw with the 8 tails and Cerberus.

Sasuke's lighting release attacks. We saw one cut clean through the 8 tails tentacles, with this he can easily slice up any summonings jiraiya has to offer.

Tiajutsu is out of the question unless jiraiya wants to lose an arm, like A

MS sasuke >>> jiraiya

Like the summonings will stand still while Sasuke uses his lightning blade.Give me a break..xd
You don't have to be speed to dodge an attack or amaterasu.If you didn't see how Jiraiya used his clones effectively to get time,it's pretty amazing.No one could tell they were clones and even the rinnegan couldn't detect em.:sy:

 

[Kira was Righteous]

You put in a way that made me think twice but im still not sure J-Man could beat him

Could he dodge Amateseru?debatable he was outrunning the summon of pains
His genjutsu defence is debatable as well although he has MA and PA
Susanoo is the big one what does he have to break it? He has a variety of strong techniques like MAs wate cannon but nothing imo that would crack susanoo...

 

[Vasto Lordé]

Wow, another flame/Troll thread ( That was made by a Sasuke hater ) is gonna reach the hottest threads, GodDamn it people, don't you ever learn U_U !

 

[Ryuu..]

If you are talking about the summonings of the toads oeso****us then sasuke should evade it with amaterasu.

If you mean jiraiya would summon a toad and hide in its belly then that isnt working. Gain control of the frog and let it swallow jiraiya

Skip to 4.20 please. I mean if he's summoned in there how can he control the toad without making eye contact?

This isnt even a battle, jiraiya gets owned worst then when pain killed him.

Don't comment with these one liners.

And when has chakra reserves ever been an issue for Sasuke? Since he's come out with EMS he's used full susanoo twice, susanoo ribcage once, and genjutsu, and doesn't look the least bit exhausted.

Never said it was an issue but it's still wasting chakra.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I love the way no part of your post states why Jiraiya can actually win. I'm not a fanboy, but I'd like to point out a few ways Sasuke MIGHT win, or at least get around Jiraiya's jutsu

You meantioned the Toad Stomach thing: Itachi got out of that with Amaterasu, not just any Amaterasu, a tiny amount. I think Sasuke, who is better at Amaterasu than Itachi, can get out

Toad Sage: You talk as if Jiraiya can enter Sage Mode in the blink of an eye. As seen with fighting Pein, it took him at least an hour to summon Ma and Pa, then to enter Sage Mode. I think Sasuke might be able to do some damage to Jiraiya within that time, especially if he's EMS Sasuke.

Summons: Well I don't have anything for this except Amaterasu

Genjutsu: Like I said before, this isn't something Jiraiya can just throw out of his sleeve. He needs Ma and Pa since they're doing the Genjutsu, not him, and it takes a lot of time for him to summon them, not mentioning the time it takes for them to prepare the jutsu. Also, if Tsukiyomi is better than that Genjutsu and Sasuke broke out of that with regular Sharingan, then he might be able to break out of the Toad Gen with EMS. I don't know that for sure, but it may be possible.

Speed: In his Base Form, Jiraiya isn't very fast. In fact, he moves at about the speed of a regular ninja his age. Sasuke can move big distances in the blink of an eye.

I'm not saying Jiraiya<Sasuke for sure, I'm just showing why Sasuke is a bad match-up for Jiraiya

 

[Blaze Release]

Like the summonings will stand still while Sasuke uses his lightning blade.Give me a break..xd
You don't have to be speed to dodge an attack or amaterasu.If you didn't see how Jiraiya used his clones effectively to get time,it's pretty amazing.No one could tell they were clones and even the rinnegan couldn't detect em.:sy:

From your threads you are a hater therefore im not getting into this.
Any logical person who understands their abilities and a neutral will tell you that ms sasuke >> jiraiya.

Summonings are slow, sasuke's lightning release which cut through the 8 tails tentacles can be extended. Speed and exceptionally quick reflex is needed to evade amaterasu and jiraiya has neither. Clones would be a good way to evade amaterasu and if sasuke doesnt notice then yes he'd waste chakra on the clone, if he was to notice he can use anything to get rid of a clone.

Meh there are better things to address therefore ill let you enjoy your stay here

 

[jiraiyanaruto15]

i'm a jiraiya fan, but he isn't beating ms or ems sasuke.

in my opinion he would beat ms sasuke but not ems sasuke.

 

[StrifeMaccy]

before EMS Jiraiya would of beaten Sasuke without a doubt. Presuming Sasukes gotten stronger with the EMS, with a new powerful jutsu, he might be in for a chance of winning

 

[Blaze Release]

Skip to 4.20 please. I mean if he's summoned in there how can he control the toad without making eye contact?

That was a barrier jutsu that nagato had already with his rennigan noticed but he still decided to break though and with that animal real got trapped. Sharigan like the rennigan can see through that and nagato risked a path to kill jiraiya, sasuke doesnt need to break that barrier

 

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[Sasuke Fan Hater]

You put in a way that made me think twice but im still not sure J-Man could beat him

Could he dodge Amateseru?debatable he was outrunning the summon of pains
His genjutsu defence is debatable as well although he has MA and PA
Susanoo is the big one what does he have to break it? He has a variety of strong techniques like MAs wate cannon but nothing imo that would crack susanoo...

I don't think susanoo is that invincible.Did you see the awesome new jutsus j-man used against pain.I never thought he could use all those things.I also don't think he won't be able to break through susanoo in his normal mode.It will be possible in SM where his attacks are enhanced..

 

[Lamar941]

And when has chakra reserves ever been an issue for Sasuke? Since he's come out with EMS he's used full susanoo twice, susanoo ribcage once, and genjutsu, and doesn't look the least bit exhausted.

You said MS and EMS for one. Do you honestly think that he could use Susanoo, Amaterusu and Tsukuyomi and beat Jirayai without any strain from his eyes and without losing any Chakra. You acting like he can do this easily. I'm talking about MS Sasuke, if you are now strictly talking about EMS Sasuke then you might have a point

 

[-Vegeta-]

Skip to 4.20 please. I mean if he's summoned in there how can he control the toad without making eye contact?




Don't comment with these one liners.



Never said it was an issue but it's still wasting chakra.

Yet I fail to see how that helps Jiraiya defeat Sasuke. Sasuke can easily burn through any frog, can control any summon with genjutsu, and can summon his hawk for better mobility if need be.

Jiraiya has NO way of getting through susanoo, no way of avoiding amaterasu(he's no as fast as V2 A), and I doubt he's even fast enough to evade the arrows.

This is without mentioning Sasuke can pretty much make anything thing he wishes out of his amaterasu, can even protect him further by covering his susanoo with amaterasu, and has pretty powerful genjutsu. Not to mention his fire jutsu, lightning jutsu, and his skill with his sword.

Jiraiya really doesn't have any way of defeating Sasuke.

You said MS and EMS for one. Do you honestly think that he could use Susanoo, Amaterusu and Tsukuyomi and beat Jirayai without any strain from his eyes and without losing any Chakra. You acting like he can do this easily. I'm talking about MS Sasuke, if you are now strictly talking about EMS Sasuke then you might have a point

I was referring to EMS Sasuke and EMS takes away the side effects of the strain on the users eyes.

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

Yet I fail to see how that helps Jiraiya defeat Sasuke. Sasuke can easily burn through any frog, can control any summon with genjutsu, and can summon his hawk for better mobility if need be.

Jiraiya has NO way of getting through susanoo, no way of avoiding amaterasu(he's no as fast as V2 A), and I doubt he's even fast enough to evade the arrows.

This is without mentioning Sasuke can pretty much make anything thing he wishes out of his amaterasu, can even protect him further by covering his susanoo with amaterasu, and has pretty powerful genjutsu. Not to mention his fire jutsu, lightning jutsu, and his skill with his sword.

Jiraiya really doesn't have any way of defeating Sasuke.

didnt j man run from animal path and find its weekness no one saying j man stay there he juts move and come back j man smart am sure he find the way

 

[Sasuke Fan Hater]

From your threads you are a hater therefore im not getting into this.
Any logical person who understands their abilities and a neutral will tell you that ms sasuke >> jiraiya.

Summonings are slow, sasuke's lightning release which cut through the 8 tails tentacles can be extended. Speed and exceptionally quick reflex is needed to evade amaterasu and jiraiya has neither. Clones would be a good way to evade amaterasu and if sasuke doesnt notice then yes he'd waste chakra on the clone, if he was to notice he can use anything to get rid of a clone.

Meh there are better things to address therefore ill let you enjoy your stay here

This is pretty much the same you said earlier and which i quoted and replied..I guess you didn't get what i said or out of SASUKE DEFENDING IDEAS..;rofl:

 

[-Vegeta-]

didnt j man run from animal path and find its weekness no one saying j man stay there he juts move and come back j man smart am sure he find the way

Another illogical argument. Being smart isn't going to help him break through susanoo or avoid amaterasu.

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

Another illogical argument. Being smart isn't going to help him break through susanoo or avoid amaterasu.

no that you think j man dosnt know how to fight an uchiha is illogical my friend he took on the rinnegan and killed 4 of them

 

[Blaze Release]

This is pretty much the same you said earlier and which i quoted and replied..I guess you didn't get what i said or out of SASUKE DEFENDING IDEAS..;rofl:

This vs thread is actually one the clearest vs threads and at any moment i can put this to bed, if i decide to take my time. Jiraiya stands a chance but sasuke is the clear favourite. U_U