How did the 1st beat Madara???

[MasterofSenjutsu]

Well the point of this thread atleast until it drifted away into this, is that Madara had the advantage considering it was a 2v1 fight yet he still lost... how tf does he lose if they were suppose to be equals and yet he had an advantage...

Well, seeing as he sealed Kurama into Mito, we can assume Mito was there. Maybe Mito helped him in the battle.

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

Do you realize that this is not normal wood we are talking about?

No, I don't think he does...

 

[Tripwire]

Do you realize that this is not normal wood we are talking about?

I already said that i get his wood style is made of water and earth and that water > fire. But.....you know what forget it I get tired of posting the same shit again and again. Youre all right im wrong lets move on with our lives.

 

[Sageofthepath]

I already said that i get his wood style is made of water and earth and that water > fire. But.....you know what forget it I get tired of posting the same shit again and again. Youre all right im wrong lets move on with our lives.

do you know how long it takes to light up a 1 foot thick board of green wood....

 

[TrollingSage]

Logic 101. Read thread before posting.

That is all.

All ur points have analysed and come out short & now u are just spamming "read the thread"
Madara doesnt have infinite chakra so he cant spam fire tech all day like u so incongruously say. In any case as mention earlier, it wont hurt 1st who has healing abilities and suiton to quench the fire. Moreover, there are techs like oro's three Rashomon gates which stops tail beast bomb and will similarly stop madaras fire techs. Madara is good with fire but that cant physically hurt 1st who if fails to quench it, wont die from burns!
What u fail to understand is that madara will be counting on EMS powers rather normal ninjustu anyways. :flaw:

 

[Altaneen]

I get that but where not talking about ametures here... where talking about the best of the best fighting a battle to the death... so youre telling me madara was nothing compared to Hashirama?? THEN WTF KINDA OP STRENGTH DID THE 1st HAVE???

Apparently just the right amount to beat Madara.

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

Their fight is BS madara should have won. He could have spammed Ameratasu, Susanoo and Tsy. EMS?!? ALso he had the 9 Tails!!!

Plot no jutsu and BS will of crap... :sy:

In my book Madara is the strongest, infact he did surpass him eventually after "gaining access to his abilities" and even unlocking the Rinnegan

 

[shinobi no kami]

Hashirama was said to be insanely powerful, his wood release could be burned, but this is a bit beyond the point, as he would of most likely used his mokuton as a defense, like Yamato, and as long as this withstands the initial blast it does its job, and when using it offensively the aim (I believe) is to either restrict movement, (no chance for hand seals) or things like flower world (real name escapes me) in which its effect would not be stopped by fire. As well as just mokuton, Hasirama also used water (water+ground = wood) so he probably would have been able to counter Madara's firejutsu. Along with all these his supreme healing abilities and huge chakra pool may of helped. This is all I can say, as we have not actually seen him fight

I don't know what the hell you wrote but + rep just for for sig!

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

because big wood makes uchiha-guys melt away like elton johns candle in the wind.

btw: wood = water + earth. water owns fire. earth owns lightning. wood would kill sasuke in a second

This is the point.

Hashi used his ultimate jutsu...

Gay Wood no jutsu, and to make sure his "attacks" go smoothly, I am sure he prepped it up with darkness no jutsu

I am sure one of Hashi's main attacks or initial "dances" of gay wood no jutsu were - wood style, one thousands years of pain

 

[Rike Senju]

Hashi probably suppressed the 9talis with wood style and then went on to fight madara. People have to realize that unlike madara hashi probably had an insane amount of chakra and he could heal and spam wood style. Also the wood style that madara has been using isn't even the real deal so we can imagine how more resilient and stronger hashi's wood was.

 

[alipjana]

umm because kishi said dat and the fact that hashirama has suiton....

 

[Tripwire]

So Hashirama is just OP and unrivaled. Yeah Madara is not his equal no1 is his equal...bull shit on that equal crap.

This fight then clearly proves that:

Senju body > Senju Eyes.

 

[Zetekatsuu]

youtube.com/watch?v=-lp8Iiqyf7c
enjoy also itachi vs kisame somewhere

 

[Tripwire]

youtube.com/watch?v=-lp8Iiqyf7c
enjoy also itachi vs kisame somewhere

Holy crap thats awesome!!!
Thanks.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

I mean if you think about it Hashirama is known for his powerful wood techs.
Okay now what is the number one enemy of TREES??? FIRE. What burns down a forest in seconds??? FIRE. Isnt Madara one of the strongest Uchiha + he had the 9 tails on his side...what ever happened to just spamming fire techs all day and burning down Hashirama..I mean I dont get how with a matchup like this Madara coulve lost.

I mean...Madara has Fire release...!!!!

really let me correct you. trees are easily flamable but not easily destroyed. most trees are just left chared and a little eaten away. madara fire jutsu would never have the power or time to easily burn through this.

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and is doesnt matter if they are on fire they will still move towards madara while burning. fire techniques of madara's level are not concussive so they dont do much damage. and he has suiton to help so yeah.

 

[Tripwire]

really let me correct you. trees are easily flamable but not easily destroyed. most trees are just left chared and a little eaten away. madara fire jutsu would never have the power or time to easily burn through this.

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and is doesnt matter if they are on fire they will still move towards madara while burning. fire techniques of madara's level are not concussive so they dont do much damage. and he has suiton to help so yeah.

If you watch the vid the other guy posted Of the Hashi Vs Madara fight you seem him burn through his woodstyle like its no problem. How he lost or the full battle it doesnt show but...

 

[PainIsGod]

Hashi used ninja art plot no jutsu and came out victorious :scorps:

 

[Zetekatsuu]

if u follow logic, if he could bounce of a chakra blast from kyuubi i doubt fire would do more

 

[Tripwire]

if u follow logic, if he could bounce of a chakra blast from kyuubi i doubt fire would do more

Yeah but he used that to shield himself completely... in other words he couldnt do anything while shielded, yeah he can protect himself but not attack. So that wouldnt work against fire style I dont think.

 

[Gunther]

You underestimate the most deadly weapon of Senju Hashirama! Unbreakable Will of Fire.