Battle Training With Yard

Wind..

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jan 11, 2012
Messages
6,055
Reaction score
163
*Waits for the almighty Yard.*
 

-Yard-

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jan 13, 2011
Messages
25,264
Reaction score
1,349
What elements do you know and up to what rank?
 

Wind..

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jan 11, 2012
Messages
6,055
Reaction score
163
What elements do you know and up to what rank?

Earth - Mastered + AACT
Lightning - Mastered + AACT(except the one that requires Shadow Clones)
Fire - B-Rank up to Great Blaze Ball
Wind - B-Rank up to Twister Shot
Water - C-Rank up to Rain Tiger
 

-Yard-

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jan 13, 2011
Messages
25,264
Reaction score
1,349
Why didn't you learn the shadow clones?
 

Wind..

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jan 11, 2012
Messages
6,055
Reaction score
163
Why didn't you learn the shadow clones?

Because I learned Lightning from Piccolosan and he can't teach Shadow Clone Technique because he is a Senpai.
 

-Yard-

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jan 13, 2011
Messages
25,264
Reaction score
1,349
Because I learned Lightning from Piccolosan and he can't teach Shadow Clone Technique because he is a Senpai.

I'll ask Zen about that later. Okay, make a 3 move combo against me.
Do not use more than 3 sentences to describe how you use each jutsu. So as example

Sentence 1.
Sentence 2.
Sentence 3.

Jutsu

Sentence 1.
Sentence 2.
Sentence 3.

Jutsu

Sentence 1.
Sentence 2.
Sentence 3.

Jutsu
 

Wind..

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jan 11, 2012
Messages
6,055
Reaction score
163
I'll ask Zen about that later. Okay, make a 3 move combo against me.
Do not use more than 3 sentences to describe how you use each jutsu. So as example

Sentence 1.
Sentence 2.
Sentence 3.

Jutsu

Sentence 1.
Sentence 2.
Sentence 3.

Jutsu

Sentence 1.
Sentence 2.
Sentence 3.

Jutsu

"Okay, awesome thank you :)."

*As soon as I see you come into my vision at mid range, I quickly gather chakra and preform the Boar → Tiger Hand Seals. I then create a huge swamp of mud under you, transforming the ground, which causes you to be stuck. The Swamp goes out to mid range in all directions.*

Rank: A
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short/Long
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The user will first perform Boar → Tiger and then by changing the surface of an object beneath an enemy into mud and creating a non flammable swamp, the user can sink his enemy into the mud. The adhesive, chakra-infused mud ensnares the enemy's body, making it almost impossible to recover one's strength and escape from the swamp. The size and depth of the created swamp depends on the user's skill and the amount of chakra used, but if the user is an expert in this technique, it will always be possible to make a fair-sized swamp which is extremely effective against a great number of enemies or when having to face gigantic creatures.



*After creating the Swamp, I then proceed to clap my hands together and create a spiraling vortex of water right above your head. It then explodes and falls on you, which stops you from going up using an Earth Pillar so you remain stuck in the mud.*

Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Mid
Chakra Cost: 15
Damage Points: N/A
Descripton: This technique allows the user after claping their hands together to make a spiralling vortex of water out of knowhere. The vortex then proceeds to explode from the top in the form of a wave. The user can also control the direction the wave goes with hand movements.



*Since you are now stuck completely in the mud, I then create two enormous rock formations which then smash together, crushing you in between them, which would most likely kill you, and if you are still alive, the water would definitely drown you.*

Rank: S
Type: Offensive
Range: Long
Chakra cost: 40
Damage points: 80
Description: The user creates two enormous rock formations that close in on the opponent from two opposing sides with tremendous force, smashing everything caught in between. Both of these formations are capable of dwarfing even the Demonic Statue of the Outer Path in size. This is one the most strongest Earth based techniques, standing as a testament to both this ability's destructive potential and its difficulty.
Note: Can only be used once due to scale of technique



"I like using Mountain Smash early because if I save it, I usually end up winning or losing before I have used it and it is a great technique so yeah :)."
 

-Yard-

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jan 13, 2011
Messages
25,264
Reaction score
1,349
Remember that just because you create the water technique doesn't stop the opponent from going into the air. This is because it is your second technique. So, I the opponent can easily just say *As the mud starts to form I use hurricane fist to shoot me to long range* or even use nagashi even tho you use a water technique next. This is because to limit the opponent from going into the air to aid your first jutsu, the two jutsus would have to either be extremely quick, or be used in unison to limit me. But since we have to follow time frame that isn't able to happen and that causes a lot of arguments in rp over this same time mistake. Nagashi would be the best choice to use as it would cancel out the doton chakra as well as going throughout the ground of mid range and shocking you before you could do your second technique as well. Thus, I gain control over the battle because I counter attacked your first jutsu. Thus turning the battle around and making you go onto the defensive which should always be your number one goal. To keep the opponent on the defensive, thus you gain complete control over the battle and that's what is needed to be seen in the RP in every battle you do. Always counter attack, even if you have to use doton no jutsu to evade a technique or hurricane fist, attack while you are evading with Kunai's in unison of you evading, then the second you are in the air, do a technique like projectile shadow clone technique. Point being, never hesitate to attack if you can attack. How your move messed up was that you used a main attack as your first jutsu and then relied on a second technique to limit me and then had a second main attack to attempt to kill me as well. Try to have your combo's have a hidden goal. You are a ninja, ninjas are great at deceiving. Try to predict the opponents counter to your attacks and save limiting the opponent for the hidden mental war in your match. The mental war being that this is RP, we all know the disadvantages to each jutsu just about and apparently every ninja here is an elite since they can tell what an S rank fire technique is just by seeing it in their peripheral vision (Ironical Sarcasm). This is because that you have to be able to look past battling and remember that it's still RP, that the guy you're fighting is going to take 3hrs to counter your move and make it seem as if it took him 2seconds to think up the plan for it during battle. That being said, think two moves ahead, try to guess how your opponent will evade like how you showed in your move but also don't have your first attack bean attack that is easily counterable and has flaws. My first attack is always a distraction. What I will do is use as an example: Dropping lid, swamp technique, then shadow clones to get the edge over the battle. I use the lid as a distraction for the swamp to be used, if he evades the lid he still has to worry about the swamp and that leaves time for clones. If I used swamp first then he could counter attack me with nagashi as I said earlier and then he would gain control over the battle. So try to have your first move of any battle give you the edge over the opponent, everything counts. Because everyone you fight in the rp will be like that hard boss in a video game that you need everything you can get to kill xD. Ue combo's you are familiar with, meaning that you should use combo's that let you guess how the opponent will evade. As far as opening moves go

A move should be seperated into two sections

Plan A

and

Plan B.

Plan A consists of a distraction as the first jutsu and an attack/distraction as the second jutsu. The second jutsu is meant to be an attack but also acts as a distraction for Plan B

Plan B is your 3rd jutsu which takes advantage of the distraction in the second jutsu. Thus with this strategy you continuously leave openings in your opponents defense until you kill him.


Your first attack should be a distraction, preferably genjutsu as it takes longer to counter than most other techniques. Or a technique that takes the opponents attention away from you and making him focus on something else creating an opening.

Your second attack should be both a distraction and an attack


Your third attack should be an attack. It can also be an attack/distraction if it falls into your form of strategy.


This way, you keep your opponent on the defense. Try to use the formula I showed in a 3 move combo.

Btw, I'll be teaching you lightning clone technique after you're done.
 
Last edited:

Wind..

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jan 11, 2012
Messages
6,055
Reaction score
163
Remember that just because you create the water technique doesn't stop the opponent from going into the air. This is because it is your second technique. So, I the opponent can easily just say *As the mud starts to form I use hurricane fist to shoot me to long range* or even use nagashi even tho you use a water technique next. This is because to limit the opponent from going into the air to aid your first jutsu, the two jutsus would have to either be extremely quick, or be used in unison to limit me. But since we have to follow time frame that isn't able to happen and that causes a lot of arguments in rp over this same time mistake. Nagashi would be the best choice to use as it would cancel out the doton chakra as well as going throughout the ground of mid range and shocking you before you could do your second technique as well. Thus, I gain control over the battle because I counter attacked your first jutsu. Thus turning the battle around and making you go onto the defensive which should always be your number one goal. To keep the opponent on the defensive, thus you gain complete control over the battle and that's what is needed to be seen in the RP in every battle you do. Always counter attack, even if you have to use doton no jutsu to evade a technique or hurricane fist, attack while you are evading with Kunai's in unison of you evading, then the second you are in the air, do a technique like projectile shadow clone technique. Point being, never hesitate to attack if you can attack. How your move messed up was that you used a main attack as your first jutsu and then relied on a second technique to limit me and then had a second main attack to attempt to kill me as well. Try to have your combo's have a hidden goal. You are a ninja, ninjas are great at deceiving. Try to predict the opponents counter to your attacks and save limiting the opponent for the hidden mental war in your match. The mental war being that this is RP, we all know the disadvantages to each jutsu just about and apparently every ninja here is an elite since they can tell what an S rank fire technique is just by seeing it in their peripheral vision (Ironical Sarcasm). This is because that you have to be able to look past battling and remember that it's still RP, that the guy you're fighting is going to take 3hrs to counter your move and make it seem as if it took him 2seconds to think up the plan for it during battle. That being said, think two moves ahead, try to guess how your opponent will evade like how you showed in your move but also don't have your first attack bean attack that is easily counterable and has flaws. My first attack is always a distraction. What I will do is use as an example: Dropping lid, swamp technique, then shadow clones to get the edge over the battle. I use the lid as a distraction for the swamp to be used, if he evades the lid he still has to worry about the swamp and that leaves time for clones. If I used swamp first then he could counter attack me with nagashi as I said earlier and then he would gain control over the battle. So try to have your first move of any battle give you the edge over the opponent, everything counts. Because everyone you fight in the rp will be like that hard boss in a video game that you need everything you can get to kill xD. Ue combo's you are familiar with, meaning that you should use combo's that let you guess how the opponent will evade. As far as opening moves go

A move should be seperated into two sections

Plan A

and

Plan B.

Plan A consists of a distraction as the first jutsu and an attack/distraction as the second jutsu. The second jutsu is meant to be an attack but also acts as a distraction for Plan B

Plan B is your 3rd jutsu which takes advantage of the distraction in the second jutsu. Thus with this strategy you continuously leave openings in your opponents defense until you kill him.


Your first attack should be a distraction, preferably genjutsu as it takes longer to counter than most other techniques. Or a technique that takes the opponents attention away from you and making him focus on something else creating an opening.

Your second attack should be both a distraction and an attack


Your third attack should be an attack. It can also be an attack/distraction if it falls into your form of strategy.


This way, you keep your opponent on the defense. Try to use the formula I showed in a 3 move combo.

Btw, I'll be teaching you lightning clone technique after you're done.

Alright, wow thank you for all this information, actually helped a lot :). So on first moves, the object isn't really to try and deal a lot of damage, it is more to try and gain the advantage in battle, so that you can be able to keep the control of the battle for a long time. In the past all I have really tried to do on first turn was hit them with 2-3 strong Jutsu. I think that has really let me down. So for maybe a better move, that gives me a better chance to gain the advantage in the battle, might be.

Swamp of the underworld - dropping lid - clones

or

Dropping lid - antlion technique - Rain Tiger perhaps?

I am sure those aren't that great because I came up with those on the spot, but would those be better?

Also for the lightning technique thank you :), but I am not sure you are thinking of the right one.

I am talking about this one.

Rank: S
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 40
Damage points: 80
Description:This technique requires the user to firstly create a shadow clone, each of them then activate the Lightning Cutter on opposite hands to one another. Connecting the two techniques together, forming a chain of sorts, they are then able to use the resulting beam to slice through objects with great ease.
Note: Must first perform the shadow clone technique.



Not this one.

Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: N/A
Description: User creates a Shadow Clone of himself infused with his lighting chakra. When the clone gets hit he will return to its previous state of pure lighting chakra. The clone has a physical substance and therefor is able to use ninjutsu and taijutsu techniques as well as he has all the normal moves the user has.
Note: Can only use lightning based techniques up to B rank.

 

-Yard-

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jan 13, 2011
Messages
25,264
Reaction score
1,349
Alright, wow thank you for all this information, actually helped a lot :). So on first moves, the object isn't really to try and deal a lot of damage, it is more to try and gain the advantage in battle, so that you can be able to keep the control of the battle for a long time. In the past all I have really tried to do on first turn was hit them with 2-3 strong Jutsu. I think that has really let me down. So for maybe a better move, that gives me a better chance to gain the advantage in the battle, might be.

Swamp of the underworld - dropping lid - clones

or

Dropping lid - antlion technique - Rain Tiger perhaps?

I am sure those aren't that great because I came up with those on the spot, but would those be better?

Also for the lightning technique thank you :), but I am not sure you are thinking of the right one.

I am talking about this one.

Rank: S
Type: Offensive
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 40
Damage points: 80
Description:This technique requires the user to firstly create a shadow clone, each of them then activate the Lightning Cutter on opposite hands to one another. Connecting the two techniques together, forming a chain of sorts, they are then able to use the resulting beam to slice through objects with great ease.
Note: Must first perform the shadow clone technique.



Not this one.

Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: N/A
Description: User creates a Shadow Clone of himself infused with his lighting chakra. When the clone gets hit he will return to its previous state of pure lighting chakra. The clone has a physical substance and therefor is able to use ninjutsu and taijutsu techniques as well as he has all the normal moves the user has.
Note: Can only use lightning based techniques up to B rank.


xd remember what I said earlier? Never use swamp first or the opponent will just counter attack you.

Here's an example of an opening I would use to gain the most advantage.

*I perform the "Snake" handseal with my sleeves covering my hands and use*

(Doton: Otoshibuta) – Earth Release: Dropping Lid
Rank: B
Type: Attack
Range: Short-Long
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: 40
Description: The user creates a giant earthen lid, big enough to trap over twenty people within it, and throws it in the air so it lands on the target, trapping and stunning him. It can also be used from an elevation to drop down on the target.


*summoning a giant lid 1 inch above your head, the lid is off set so it wont hit me. With/o any hesitation I use*

(Suiton: Funshutsu Mizu Kinko) - Water Release: Gushing Water Imprisonment
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user creates a flow of gushing water under the opponent which traps them in a sphere of water. The user can perform an attack while the opponent is trapped. This jutsu is similar to Water Prison Technique, though the user doesn't need to keep his arm in the sphere of water.

*Creating a flow of gushing water around you which traps you in a sphere of water. Since this doesn't require handseals and the water technique is very quick if you've ever play Naruto: dragon blade chronicles so it would happen as the lid is dropping out of the vortex above you since theres a time gap opening for it since the lid has to drop out of the vortex, thus making it seem as if the techniques were used in unison due to timing but really I'm just taking advantage of the time it takes to summon the lid from the vortex with a really fast water technique which wouldn't be possible if the water tech required seals but this tech doesn't, making it so that you have to deal with them together. This doesn't require handseals and due to that I can quickly make one handseal without hesitation and so I quickly make one handseal as I move my arms forward with my hands together and use*


(Kage Bunshin no Jutsu) - Shadow Clone Technique
Rank:B
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:20
Damage Points:N/A
Description: The Kage Bunshin distributes the ninjas chakra evenly among the clones and creates a real copy with form and substance. The clone itself can also utilize any jutsu the original ninja knows. When the clone finally disperses, any new knowledge it has gained is passed back to the original ninja and any additional clones. Upon impact, the clone can be dispersed.


*Summoning 4 clones. 1 on my left, 1 on my right, and 2 behind me. We are all in the same position I am in so you don't see the 2 clones that's behind me, as our bodies are perfectly aligned. They keep their arms forward and their hands together, that way you won't see their arms sticking out when they make handseals (for the clones behind me) so that you still don't notice the two clones behind me. This would happen as theres an opening for this technique since you would be defending as I do it.*
 

Wind..

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jan 11, 2012
Messages
6,055
Reaction score
163
xd remember what I said earlier? Never use swamp first or the opponent will just counter attack you.

Here's an example of an opening I would use to gain the most advantage.

:sy: Wow, of course, don't use Swamp first xd, sorry I read this a few hours ago and then responded now.

Alright that combo makes sense that it would be good, gets them to look up at the Lid, then you trap them and create clones so you can preform techniques simultaneously.
 

-Yard-

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jan 13, 2011
Messages
25,264
Reaction score
1,349
:sy: Wow, of course, don't use Swamp first xd, sorry I read this a few hours ago and then responded now.

Alright that combo makes sense that it would be good, gets them to look up at the Lid, then you trap them and create clones so you can preform techniques simultaneously.

List all the key advantages of the combo I used. I want to see if you can find them all xd
 

Wind..

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jan 11, 2012
Messages
6,055
Reaction score
163
List all the key advantages of the combo I used. I want to see if you can find them all xd

-The Dropping Lid distracts them
-The Water technique traps them
-The Water technique, being instantaneous, and trapping them does not allow them to counter the lid, causing it to continue to fall on them
-Shadow Clones can be used for defense
-Shadow Clones can be used for simultaneous attack
-The Dropping Lid also does not allow them to see what you are doing and you can use lightning spear or something to stab through the lid and hit them causing them to be stabbed and also further shocked because of the water

Are there any more?
 

-Yard-

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jan 13, 2011
Messages
25,264
Reaction score
1,349
-The Dropping Lid distracts them
-The Water technique traps them
-The Water technique, being instantaneous, and trapping them does not allow them to counter the lid, causing it to continue to fall on them
-Shadow Clones can be used for defense
-Shadow Clones can be used for simultaneous attack
-The Dropping Lid also does not allow them to see what you are doing and you can use lightning spear or something to stab through the lid and hit them causing them to be stabbed and also further shocked because of the water

Are there any more?

Yup and it has something to do with the way I used the clones xd
 

Wind..

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jan 11, 2012
Messages
6,055
Reaction score
163
Yup and it has something to do with the way I used the clones xd

Oh woops I accidentally skipped that last part, well it would be the fact that you are hiding two clones behind you so the opponent can't see them using Jutsu such as stone spikes or something like that. But aren't you only able to make 3 Clones?
 

-Yard-

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jan 13, 2011
Messages
25,264
Reaction score
1,349
Oh woops I accidentally skipped that last part, well it would be the fact that you are hiding two clones behind you so the opponent can't see them using Jutsu such as stone spikes or something like that. But aren't you only able to make 3 Clones?

Nope the maximum is 4 clones on the field at a time. You can use the clone technique 3x per battle. Now, the reason to make hidden clones is that the opponent won't see them, only the clones that they can see, when they are dealing with an attack already from you, you can have the hidden clones make 100% surprise attacks or even have your other clones make fake handseals for other techniques while the hidden clones do the real techniques.
 
Last edited:

Wind..

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jan 11, 2012
Messages
6,055
Reaction score
163
Nope the maximum is 3 clones on the field at a time. You can use the clone technique 3x per battle. Now, the reason to make hidden clones is that the opponent won't see them, only the clones that they can see, when they are dealing with an attack already from you, you can have the hidden clones make 100% surprise attacks or even have your other clones make fake handseals for other techniques while the hidden clones do the real techniques.

I only asked because in your move it said you make 4 clones xd. I think that was probably just a typo but yeah. I see that is a good idea, in the past I have never thought of keeping them hidden. Also using Earth clones, couldn't one use hiding like a mole technique or one of those and then be underground without the enemy knowing and using spikes to stab the opponent.
 

-Yard-

Legendary Shinobi 🐸
Supreme
Joined
Jan 13, 2011
Messages
25,264
Reaction score
1,349
I only asked because in your move it said you make 4 clones xd. I think that was probably just a typo but yeah. I see that is a good idea, in the past I have never thought of keeping them hidden. Also using Earth clones, couldn't they use hiding like a mole technique or one of those and then be underground without the enemy knowing and using spikes to stab the opponent.

I meant to say 4 clones on the field >_<
and yup. But you have to use distractions and attacks for the effect to pull off tho xd. Otherwise they could counter the spikes by feeling the vibrations in the ground etc.
 

Wind..

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Jan 11, 2012
Messages
6,055
Reaction score
163
I meant to say 4 clones on the field >_<
and yup. But you have to use distractions and attacks for the effect to pull off tho xd. Otherwise they could counter the spikes by feeling the vibrations in the ground etc.

Wait you meant to say 4 clones but you just said only 3 on the field at a time :confused:

So maybe using a water, fire or water technique to make them try to counter while the clone uses spikes.
 
Top