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Alright I think the viewers of Naruto have seen how the manga has escalated, from a philosophical setting where the characters are developing themselves and their ideals (Part 1), to Part 2 where the characters ideals are challenged by a darker more sophisticated set of ideals; which is very much like our own very adult world.
We start to learn piece by piece of what this darkness is, The Juubi, The Elder and Younger Sons, and finally the Fourth Great Ninja War. Which Kishimoto seems to develop certain characters for a purpose, i.e. Madara, Kabuto, Tobi, Naruto, and Sasuke.
As we learn the history behind Naruto, the author Masashi Kishimoto seems to keep certain information hidden from his readers, such as The Juubi and The Elder Son. This is what this thread will be looking into.
We start to learn piece by piece of what this darkness is, The Juubi, The Elder and Younger Sons, and finally the Fourth Great Ninja War. Which Kishimoto seems to develop certain characters for a purpose, i.e. Madara, Kabuto, Tobi, Naruto, and Sasuke.
As we learn the history behind Naruto, the author Masashi Kishimoto seems to keep certain information hidden from his readers, such as The Juubi and The Elder Son. This is what this thread will be looking into.
Sage of 6 Paths: Beginnings
The Rikudou Sennin Paths was the legendary figure who founded the arts of ninjutsu and created the ninja world. He defeated the Ten Tails, which later attacked the world.
However the Sage was able to seal the Ten Tails without himself saving the world. He divided the Ten-Tails' chakra into nine parts and then used Chibaku Tensei to seal the Ten-Tails' body inside a gigantic stone prison in the sky, creating the moon.
As stated by certain persons in the manga, The Juubi possessed an unbelievably amount of immense foul charka, and its foul charka was potent enough to bring despair and destruction to the ninja world. The Juubi also had one unique eye, which has four Rinnegan-like concentric circles, with nine Sharingan-like tomoes in the three circles closest to the pupil colored red. Sometime after its emerging the Ten Tails attacked the world and the Sage defeated it by sealing it within him. Now it could be argued that aside from The Sage’s “Creation Of All Things Jutsu,” that after sealing the Juubi within himself, this is when he truly became a god.
He became the first jinchūriki. The Sage could harness and controlled the Juubi’s power, which would make him able to perform jutsu’s on a higher scale then what he could do before. Years later the Sage would have two sons. The Elder son believed that force and strength was the key to peace, while the younger son believed that love was the key to peace.
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However the Sage was able to seal the Ten Tails without himself saving the world. He divided the Ten-Tails' chakra into nine parts and then used Chibaku Tensei to seal the Ten-Tails' body inside a gigantic stone prison in the sky, creating the moon.
As stated by certain persons in the manga, The Juubi possessed an unbelievably amount of immense foul charka, and its foul charka was potent enough to bring despair and destruction to the ninja world. The Juubi also had one unique eye, which has four Rinnegan-like concentric circles, with nine Sharingan-like tomoes in the three circles closest to the pupil colored red. Sometime after its emerging the Ten Tails attacked the world and the Sage defeated it by sealing it within him. Now it could be argued that aside from The Sage’s “Creation Of All Things Jutsu,” that after sealing the Juubi within himself, this is when he truly became a god.
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He became the first jinchūriki. The Sage could harness and controlled the Juubi’s power, which would make him able to perform jutsu’s on a higher scale then what he could do before. Years later the Sage would have two sons. The Elder son believed that force and strength was the key to peace, while the younger son believed that love was the key to peace.
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The Origins of the two sons
Although Masashi does not explain how the two brothers came into existence, we can be sure that he most likely created them with the Creation Of All Things Jutsu.
If so, then the Juubi may have had a significantly influence on the Elder Son during his creation. This would explain why the Elder Son’s dojutsu had a different pattern than the Sage’s and also would explains the Elder Son’s powerful charka.
Logically speaking would this not make the Elder Son’s dojutsu stronger than the Sage’s before sealing the Juubi within himself. This charka may have directly come from the Juubi, and if so then would this not explain the Uchiha’s Curse of Hatred. The Juubi’s charka was so foul that it could bring despair and destruction to the world. Masashi may have foreshadowed that the Uchiha’s Curse of Hatred is simply that despair and destruction that comes from the influence of the Juubi.
Madara and Sasuke are simply a resurgence of that Juubi’s curse. Kabuto may also hold answers to the Uchiha Curse.
If so, then the Juubi may have had a significantly influence on the Elder Son during his creation. This would explain why the Elder Son’s dojutsu had a different pattern than the Sage’s and also would explains the Elder Son’s powerful charka.
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Logically speaking would this not make the Elder Son’s dojutsu stronger than the Sage’s before sealing the Juubi within himself. This charka may have directly come from the Juubi, and if so then would this not explain the Uchiha’s Curse of Hatred. The Juubi’s charka was so foul that it could bring despair and destruction to the world. Masashi may have foreshadowed that the Uchiha’s Curse of Hatred is simply that despair and destruction that comes from the influence of the Juubi.
Madara and Sasuke are simply a resurgence of that Juubi’s curse. Kabuto may also hold answers to the Uchiha Curse.
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Road of Darkness
Madara’s charka as stated by Kurama “was more sinister than his own”
I believe this is a trait given to the Uchiha by the Elder Son, but only those Uchiha that have inherited a really powerful charka and spiritual energy from possibly the Juubi. The only known Uchiha’s that we know that have an unusual foul strong charka are Madara, and Sasuke. We know that through Orochimaru and Kabuto’s research that the Sharingan naturally evolves into the Rinnegan.
We also know that Orochimaru made enhancements to Danzo’s body, the same way Kabuto made enchantments to Madara’s. The latter is deemed to stronger. However both are incomplete. Kabuto’s experiment on Madara is better than Danzo’s but is still not complete, that is why he wants Sasuke.
Plans for Sasuke
Madara’s charka as stated by Kurama “was more sinister than his own”
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I believe this is a trait given to the Uchiha by the Elder Son, but only those Uchiha that have inherited a really powerful charka and spiritual energy from possibly the Juubi. The only known Uchiha’s that we know that have an unusual foul strong charka are Madara, and Sasuke. We know that through Orochimaru and Kabuto’s research that the Sharingan naturally evolves into the Rinnegan.
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We also know that Orochimaru made enhancements to Danzo’s body, the same way Kabuto made enchantments to Madara’s. The latter is deemed to stronger. However both are incomplete. Kabuto’s experiment on Madara is better than Danzo’s but is still not complete, that is why he wants Sasuke.
Plans for Sasuke
It has been stated that Sasuke has the same ominous charka as Madara, and most likely will surpass Madara with or without Kabuto’s help.
Without Kabuto’s help - As said before by Tobi, Sasuke has the potential of surpassing Nagato, who had the Rinnegan. (It seems likes Kishi has it in his plans for Sasuke to acquire the Rinnegan). Not only did Tobi say that Sasuke has the potential of surpassing Nagato, but he wants to synchronize Sasuke with the Gedo Mazo.
Something that we have been seen to only work with the Rinnegan, not Sharingan. So without Kabuto’s interference Sasuke will still acquire the Rinnegan much like Madara, but under different circumstances.
With Kabuto’s help – Sasuke will without doubt awakened the Rinnegan without Kabuto, but with Kabuto, Sasuke will be able to unlock the highest dojustu there is. The Eye of The Juubi or the Elder Son’s dojutsu.
If this does happened it would confirms the influenced that the Ten-Tails had on the Elder Son during his creation. This would give Sasuke the power up that he needs to fight Naruto head to head.
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Without Kabuto’s help - As said before by Tobi, Sasuke has the potential of surpassing Nagato, who had the Rinnegan. (It seems likes Kishi has it in his plans for Sasuke to acquire the Rinnegan). Not only did Tobi say that Sasuke has the potential of surpassing Nagato, but he wants to synchronize Sasuke with the Gedo Mazo.
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Something that we have been seen to only work with the Rinnegan, not Sharingan. So without Kabuto’s interference Sasuke will still acquire the Rinnegan much like Madara, but under different circumstances.
With Kabuto’s help – Sasuke will without doubt awakened the Rinnegan without Kabuto, but with Kabuto, Sasuke will be able to unlock the highest dojustu there is. The Eye of The Juubi or the Elder Son’s dojutsu.
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If this does happened it would confirms the influenced that the Ten-Tails had on the Elder Son during his creation. This would give Sasuke the power up that he needs to fight Naruto head to head.
Ulterior Motives
Tobi may want Sasuke for something far much greater than what he is revealing. He has said the Juubi’s body is physically sealed within the moon, and to obtain the Juubi would he not have to somehow smash the moon open.
Unless he forms a new moon, he ruins his plan, which is to cast a genjutsu of the moon. Does this not imply he will get the Juubi some other way? Sasuke is essential to Tobi plans; it could because of his “hatred” the more he delves into his hatred the colder and more foul his charka seem to get. This hatred I think is the link between the Elder Son and The Juubi’s influence on him, while being created. Tobi may have an ulterior motive then just synchronizing Sasuke with Gedo Mazo, he may be pushing Sasuke to limits to attain power that has not been reached by an Uchiha before; and hopes that he may (Tobi) get ahold of Sasuke’s powers.
Sasuke. If Kabuto is able to experiment on Sasuke, he like he said will have the answers to the Sage Of The Six Paths power.
But why Sasuke? As Kabuto already said he needs a young living Uchiha to experiment on, the reason why his experiment on Madara was incomplete was because Madara was already dead; thus the Senju cells could not progress and bond through a dead host. That must mean that Harashima face on Madara’s chest was already produce in the lab, and since Madara was already dead, the Senju cells simply took over an area on Madara.
Kabuto must have known the properties of the Senju cells, and that is why he wants Sasuke to fuse with Senju’s cells. How will this happened? Well as we know Tobi gave Kabuto one Zetsu, and they have Yamato. I am assuming that Kabuto would rather use Yamato then Zetsu as Yamato already has replicated DNA of Harashima.
That being said, if Kabuto experiments on Sasuke who is a young living Uchiha, then Harashima’s DNA would take over, we wouldn’t see a face on his chest or on his shoulders. The Senju’s cells would grow perfectly within his own cells without taking over his body. This is why Kabuto and Orochimaru wanted Sasuke. They needed the power of the Sharingan in order to exceed the known dojutsu powers. We know how ambitious Orochimaru was; he wanted to learn all jutsu.
But even for Orochimaru there were some justu he could not learn due to not having a certain bloodline, which is why he wanted Sasuke. This ambition may have also been passed to Kabuto through intergrating Orochimaru’s remain into himself. Now that it is just Kabuto he may be trying to unlock the greatest dojutsu through Sasuke; The Juubi's eye.
Tobi may want Sasuke for something far much greater than what he is revealing. He has said the Juubi’s body is physically sealed within the moon, and to obtain the Juubi would he not have to somehow smash the moon open.
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Unless he forms a new moon, he ruins his plan, which is to cast a genjutsu of the moon. Does this not imply he will get the Juubi some other way? Sasuke is essential to Tobi plans; it could because of his “hatred” the more he delves into his hatred the colder and more foul his charka seem to get. This hatred I think is the link between the Elder Son and The Juubi’s influence on him, while being created. Tobi may have an ulterior motive then just synchronizing Sasuke with Gedo Mazo, he may be pushing Sasuke to limits to attain power that has not been reached by an Uchiha before; and hopes that he may (Tobi) get ahold of Sasuke’s powers.
Kabuto's Intentions
Kabuto and Orochimaru have extensively research on how the Senju’s cells work as shown in their experiments with Danzo’s and Madara. Both were incomplete. Kabuto, however has seemed to find a way to make the bond with Senju’s cells successful, how you say, through a young living Uchiha.
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Sasuke. If Kabuto is able to experiment on Sasuke, he like he said will have the answers to the Sage Of The Six Paths power.
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But why Sasuke? As Kabuto already said he needs a young living Uchiha to experiment on, the reason why his experiment on Madara was incomplete was because Madara was already dead; thus the Senju cells could not progress and bond through a dead host. That must mean that Harashima face on Madara’s chest was already produce in the lab, and since Madara was already dead, the Senju cells simply took over an area on Madara.
Kabuto must have known the properties of the Senju cells, and that is why he wants Sasuke to fuse with Senju’s cells. How will this happened? Well as we know Tobi gave Kabuto one Zetsu, and they have Yamato. I am assuming that Kabuto would rather use Yamato then Zetsu as Yamato already has replicated DNA of Harashima.
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That being said, if Kabuto experiments on Sasuke who is a young living Uchiha, then Harashima’s DNA would take over, we wouldn’t see a face on his chest or on his shoulders. The Senju’s cells would grow perfectly within his own cells without taking over his body. This is why Kabuto and Orochimaru wanted Sasuke. They needed the power of the Sharingan in order to exceed the known dojutsu powers. We know how ambitious Orochimaru was; he wanted to learn all jutsu.
But even for Orochimaru there were some justu he could not learn due to not having a certain bloodline, which is why he wanted Sasuke. This ambition may have also been passed to Kabuto through intergrating Orochimaru’s remain into himself. Now that it is just Kabuto he may be trying to unlock the greatest dojutsu through Sasuke; The Juubi's eye.
Conclusion
Naruto and Sasuke are meant to be equal, but honestly I don’t see if Sasuke having the Rinnegan is actually equal to Naruto. I mean if they were to fight right now or even after if Sasuke awakens the Rinnegan, Naruto still has the advantage. It seems as of the latest chapters of Naruto are released the more symbolism we see.
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I personally think that Naruto has passed the point where Naruto is the younger son, and Sasuke is the Elder soon, but rather Naruto equals the Sage Of The Six Paths; while Sasuke equals the Juubi.
This was a joint thread by myself and D r a y d e n :izuna:
