[Theory] Sussano vs Rasenshuriken

[apple pie of doom]

Well, no offense, but Danzou ripped open Susanoo with some enhanced wind jutsu.

Now Danzou is pretty skilled, but i doubt his tehcnique has the same destructive force as the rasenshuriken.

 

[warlee]

You made me laugh at your ignorance :rofl: and susano is a fire tech :rofl:

 

[Kirin Rei]

You made me laugh at your ignorance :rofl: and susano is a fire tech :rofl:

Nope, I'm pretty sure it's just a dark mass of chakra. I haven't seen Susanoo burn anything by just touching until now. Besides, such a thing has never been mentioned in the manga.

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[jorgelius]

laugh to kirin ignorance and susanoo is fire release?

fuuton rasen shuriken is perfect example to explain how exactly susanoo works and where is it's limits..

it's perfect for this coz i can't think of a stronger tech, to susanoo is pointless to make one high power attack, while user saw rank of coming jutsu if necessary can rise chakra output .. it is extremely well suited to protect u single "boom/explode" kind of attack. actually there isn't susanoo user who couldn't take rasenshuriken, while itachi version is bit more tricky than example madara's
-he have spirit item yata mirror which itself can't be broken. it can make u slide backwards but it isn't anything that level hmm 2 s-s-noo can't protect u from..

sasuke and madara .. let's go to sasuke don't know much about madara, he have itachi's eyes and even without assuming he have itachi's spirit items his full powered susanoo literally just don't have effect single rasenshuriken.. otherhand what u can do with same chakra reserve, probably this take's bit more but anyway anyone remember chou-oodama-rasengan barrage multiple big rasengans which naruto used to strike kyuubi .. this effect susanoo much better nonstop pressure and most large scale, it is about only way to break susanoo from outside, since chakra out put doesn't matter it protect your body effectly as possible whit given chakra, so even sasuke incomplete form of susanoo (used against raikage at kage summit) can survive attack alive ,near death though.. otherwice certain death.

 

[Zatanna]

The Yata mirror Itachis had is said to contain all elements so could easily counter, but as your others, Im not sure but I guess they would defend easily. only in their final form though.

 

[jorgelius]

all elements? how do u know first time i heard that, i just know it's like amaterasu ninjutsu which have "legend" like story, and are impossible to get around with normal means

could someone tell me what is kumi for? what is different if u have 25.85kumi or 5000kumi? otherthing is +rep -rep what to those do? and if someone thank me for my post what that means or how it is diffrent than +rep if someone if kind enough to answer didn't find in general question place anything useful

 

[The Work]

Well...Because Sasuke hit it....But can Sasuke's Susano take on a Rasen Shuriken without Sasuke countering it?

 

[Ryuu..]

Did you really just post a non-canon video?

 

[Wakizashi]

this does not apply to plot no jutsu. plot no jutsu rule over all logic

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

It a base Susanoo could withstand Kirin, a jutsu from heaven itself, then the third staged Susanoo can tank the rasengarbage with ease...

 

[Honord Sage]

Naruto's Rasengan mix with wind is right now the most powerful Human justsu there is and tail beast bomb is the most powerful blast there is for a tail beast and its Host, if Naruto combines both into one with wind their be no jutsu to counter it until someone can combine an element with something similar to it.

 

[Qcks]

Susanoo'O is not a fire technique it is never stated it is fire technique if it were fire tech Danzou shouldn't be able to penetrate it with his wind. Please don't spout nonsense.

I suppose the debate boils down to whether Ameterasu is a fire tech. Everything we've seen thus far indicates that it is.

Let's go back for a second:

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That links to first time Sasuke ever uses Susanoo'O.

C, the dude that senses chakra and other BS abilities, specifically notes that Sasuke is controlling the black flames of Ameterasu to surround himself in black flame after using Tsukiyomi to create the ribcage.

Now, if Ameterasu isn't a fire tech, then Susanoo'O isn't a fire tech, because all Susanoo'O is an area covered by Ameterasu's black flame that has an area that a person can exist in because of Tsukiyomi.

Every thing that's been said about Ameterasu though indicates that it's a type of fire release.

I'll go reread the sasuke vs Danzo fight, but i have a feeling that the fight suffered from interference from Plot no Jutsu.

 

[ClashinDevestation]

Its not true its a game not the manga...

 

[Uchihajin Sasuke]

Naruto's Rasengan mix with wind is right now the most powerful Human justsu there is and tail beast bomb is the most powerful blast there is for a tail beast and its Host, if Naruto combines both into one with wind their be no jutsu to counter it until someone can combine an element with something similar to it.

Amaterasu ball of doom make his Rasengan look like nothing, and bye the way amaterasu has to be a from the fire element.

and I don't think Rasenshuriken is as strong as Kirin. Alright rasenskuriken may be wind, but it scale of power is still coming from human, while Kirin is coming from the sky itself - the degree of power is totally on a different scale

This is even more cemented by the fact that lightning hit 1/1000 of a second, much faster than this wind element rasengan can ever hope to hit.

 

[Qcks]

Yeah.... having just reread the Danzo vs Sasuke fight, he never knocks Sasuke out of Susanoo'O.
he moves him slight towards the giant summon that's vacuuming up air, but, that's about it.

 

[Qcks]

You made me laugh at your ignorance :rofl: and susano is a fire tech :rofl:

Also.... - rep.

Kirin is one of the most intelligent and literate people on Narutobase, if she's ignorant, you're a retarded troll.

I don't happen to agree with her on what Sasanoo'O is, but personal attacks don't actually change anything.

 

[jorgelius]

where did u get idea that susanoo is fire release? or any release of that matter, it isn't even chakra nearly summoned with chakra.. it's one of legendary spirit items that aren't even up to speculate. it is a shield summon with only physical shape to see

 

[Qcks]

where did u get idea that susanoo is fire release? or any release of that matter, it isn't even chakra nearly summoned with chakra.. it's one of legendary spirit items that aren't even up to speculate. it is a shield summon with only physical shape to see

Ameterasu is not an item.

If it was, Edo Madara couldn't use Sasanoo'O, which requires Ameterasu in order to be able to manifest Susanoo'O, because Sasuke would be the person with that item.

The Yata Mirror and the Totsuka Sword are items, and is specifically talked about in the Itachi vs Sasuke fight.

The simple fact that Ameterasu is existing in two places at once without being manufactured twice means Ameterasu is not an item.

If it's not an item, it's a release of some sort (not every technique necessarily has an element), but the fact that it directly effects the real world implies it's an elemental release of some sort.

Further supporting evidence of this is the fact that Ameterasu is repeatedly refered to as a type of fire technique from the time we first see it used against Jiraiya's toadbelly tech.

Further evidence is the fact that Sasuke quickly masters Blaze release after mastering Susanoo'O, implying that Blaze release is related to Ameterasu.

Susanoo'O is a fire tech, specifically Blaze Release, that uses Tsukiyomi to shape the Blaze release, in such a way as to allow the person in the middle of it to continue to exist without getting burned and to allow the blaze release to affect the real world.

 

[UzUmAkiiClaN]

Stupid : Naruto was only on SageMode, no even counting Kiubi mode. + the tails beats

 

[Honord Sage]

Amaterasu ball of doom make his Rasengan look like nothing, and bye the way amaterasu has to be a from the fire element.

and I don't think Rasenshuriken is as stronger as Kirin. Alright rasenskuriken may be wind, but it scale of power is still coming from human, while Kirin is coming from the sky itself - the degree of power is totally on a different scale

This is even more cemented by the fact that lightning hit 1/1000 of a second, much faster than this wind element rasengan can ever hope to hit.

Wind blows away the clouds needed for lightning, And you and others keep forgetting Naruto is destine to make Sasuke acknowledge Naruto as His master in power.