Hashirama vs Rinnegan, hmmm

[GorreVisor]

So I recently saw a post regarding that Hashirama, the first Hokage could defeat Nagato Uzumaki, who possess the full powered Rinnegan, in his healthy condition.

My point is, that it has been stated from Jiraya, that Rinnegan allows the user "any techniques they desire". On another hand, Tobi sad, that the Sharingan and the Mokuton was inherited from their ascend, the So6P, who we all know a Rinnegan user. Also Nagato had all the Elemental chakras.

My question is obvious, if Nagato couldn`t use Mokuton (he was crippled, if he could know how to heal with it, he certainly would`ve) apart from the guess, tha he maybe didn`t know the proper way to do it, why couldn`t he posses the mighty Mokuton?

 

[blackbird31468]

my guess is that he didn't fully master the rinnegan.

 

[I Am Pein]

So I recently saw a post regarding that Hashirama, the first Hokage could defeat Nagato Uzumaki, who possess the full powered Rinnegan, in his healthy condition.

My point is, that it has been stated from Jiraya, that Rinnegan allows the user "any techniques they desire". On another hand, Tobi sad, that the Sharingan and the Mokuton was inherited from their ascend, the So6P, who we all know a Rinnegan user. Also Nagato had all the Elemental chakras.

My question is obvious, if Nagato couldn`t use Mokuton (he was crippled, if he could know how to heal with it, he certainly would`ve) apart from the guess, tha he maybe didn`t know the proper way to do it, why couldn`t he posses the mighty Mokuton?

cuz the first stated you made was already wrong, Jman said he can use all chakra natures opening any jutsu you could imagine to his disposal, plus its a kekaignki, just becuase yamato knows rock and water element doesnt mean he can use crystal realease does it?

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

As long as Nagato has the Rinnegan, Hashirama is not beating him. In fact only a few handful can beat a Rinnegan user.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Yep he couldnt master it to its full potential because of his harsh life which didnt allow him time to learn just improvise. Even then he was really powerful with it. Oh and when did it say mokuton is a inherited jutsu, im pretty sure it was unique to hashirama only.

 

[chickmagnet]

i don't believe can win against rinnegan coz more chakra use produce more food for user they can learn any tech look how fast madara learn how to use wood for first time

 

[I Am Pein]

As long as Nagato has the Rinnegan, Hashirama is not beating him. In fact only a few handful can beat a Rinnegan user.

are you serusly gonna sit here and tell me harashima cant beat nagato, when its seen that just his wood release can take all 5 kage down????

 

[nut4sport]

according to tobi the rinnegan was given to nagato, meaning the eyes were transplanted. Also only hashirama or people who had scientific experiments with his DNA have been able to use mokuton.

 

[I Am Pein]

according to tobi the rinnegan was given to nagato, meaning the eyes were transplanted. Also only hashirama or people who had scientific experiments with his DNA have been able to use mokuton.

our his children, becuase tsunade could have learned it but didnt have proficeint skill

 

[6PathsofKami]

are you serusly gonna sit here and tell me harashima cant beat nagato, when its seen that just his wood release can take all 5 kage down????

No dude that is edo madara you cannot compare him with the alive madara.

 

[Akuma]

Nagato would beat Hashirama anyday.

 

[6PathsofKami]

our his children, becuase tsunade could have learned it but didnt have proficeint skill

Thats hashiramas kekkei genkai and you cant teach/learn kekkei genkais?

 

[I Am Pein]

No dude that is edo madara you cannot compare him with the alive madara.

ok so your saying nagato could beat a regular madara with ems

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

are you serusly gonna sit here and tell me harashima cant beat nagato, when its seen that just his wood release can take all 5 kage down????

His wood release would be useless against Rinnegan. I suggest you to go ahead and think properly about the abilities of Rinnegan each, hopefully you will realise that Nagato can counter all of Hashirama's techniques. U_U

 

[I Am Pein]

Thats hashiramas kekkei genkai and you cant teach/learn kekkei genkais?

go and look up kekkei genkia, all children of that person can learn it, k=just like sharingan is kekkie genkia anychild that sasuke has can use sharingan

 

[Ryuu..]

Mokuton was a KKG meaning that no other people were able to combine both earth and water chakra natures. It said Nagato mastered all 5 elements but that doesn't mean he can use Mokuton, Dust release etc....

In anycase Mokuton is useless vs a healthy Nagato who I believe would defeat Hashirama.

 

[I Am Pein]

His wood release would be useless against Rinnegan. I suggest you to go ahead and think properly about the abilities of Rinnegan each, hopefully you will realise that Nagato can counter all of Hashirama's techniques. U_U

deva path = wood relealse around him and then he cant move, he tries to psh it and all it does is bends a little

sommuning path = do i even have to explain, no competition

soul eater path = he is very skilled in ninja weapons

that robot path = he would heal all the burn and cuts before they did any real damage, plus that guy isnt very good in tiajutsu

preta path = i really doubt he can absord wood

naraka path = what good is this when harashima would just always say they truth, there no reason for him to lie about anything

outer path = agian not very useful some simple fire style and hes gone

 

[I Am Pein]

Mokuton was a KKG meaning that no other people were able to combine both earth and water chakra natures. It said Nagato mastered all 5 elements but that doesn't mean he can use Mokuton, Dust release etc....

In anycase Mokuton is useless vs a healthy Nagato who I believe would defeat Hashirama.

"Kekkei genkai (血継限界; Literally meaning "a technique limited to inheritance by blood" or "Bloodline Limit") are abilities passed down genetically in specific clans"

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

deva path = wood relealse around him and then he cant move, he tries to psh it and all it does is bends a little

sommuning path = do i even have to explain, no competition

soul eater path = he is very skilled in ninja weapons

that robot path = he would heal all the burn and cuts before they did any real damage, plus that guy isnt very good in tiajutsu

preta path = i really doubt he can absord wood

naraka path = what good is this when harashima would just always say they truth, there no reason for him to lie about anything

outer path = agian not very useful some simple fire style and hes gone

Lol that's where you are wrong he can absorb Mokuton. As long its a form of Ninjutsu attack Preta Path ability can absorb anything, example Preta Path has shown to absorb oil fighting against Jiraiya. Also your other points are rather poorly written, such as bending wood? Lol seriously.


Anyway I'm off for tonight.

 

[I Am Pein]

Lol that's where you are wrong he can absorb Mokuton. As long its a form of Ninjutsu attack Preta Path ability can absorb anything, example Preta Path has shown to absorb oil fighting against Jiraiya. Also your other points are rather poorly written, such as bending wood? Lol seriously.


Anyway I'm off for tonight.

meh you refuse to make valid points cuz u know im right