Hashirama vs Nagato

[arv993]

Oh my god am I talking to a brick wall here?

Why cant you undersand the concept of Nagato not using all of his abilities at once is because he didnt need to? If he did have you consider the fact that Bee and Naruto would have died? Its called Plot-no jutsu, you are basing your facts and judgements merely on what occured in the manga when in fact you should be considering that the storyline doesnt involve in these versus fights.

You must be thick if you dont get the point as to why I mentioned those three paths being activated while Bringer Of Darkness. I'll explain it to you for the nth time or so:

Any attacks Hashirama throws at Nagato would be useless because of those three path abilities. Close range or not he doesnt need to visually see an attack or a person is coming at him. There is a page that shows Nagato not requiring to look Naruto while he is attacking him with Rasengan:

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Also your point on the interval on Shinra Tensei, again this is Nagato who has the abilities all in one body making him even stronger and faster than individual paths, even Naruto states that:

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For the nth time or so as long as Nagato has the Rinnegan, he has the higher chance of winning. U_U

Am off for tonight.

BOLD ONE:
do you know why that happens because he had the the other eyes on naruto and this case they are blinded. i am really wonxdering who is the brick wall here seriously

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Dude you have no proof he can use all paths at once and second he doesnt have the stamina to do that. stop blaming plot no jutsu on everything. I can say the same thing about hashirama how madara doesnt kno how to use his powers and he can use it 10x better. all you are doing is speculating . sure he can use multiple paths at once but is never shown using more than one during CT or using it all once. AGAIN ALL YOU ARE DOING IS SPECULATING. something that is not valid in vs threads. Stop blaming plot no jutsu 1. he does not have stamina to use it all at techs at once 2. he has not been shown that so your point holds no ground

i kno his techs are stronger and faster but it doesnt mean the interval does not exist.


AND let me reiterate for the 15th time Bringer of darkness blinds nagato meaning he cant see him or his summons. so meaning he cant do what he did with naruto and his rasengan. DO YOU UNDERSTAND. IF he is blind as kabuto said he is a much easier target

AND that is how itachi easily got him with his totsuka due to his sights being destroyed look here at the link

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So let me make this very clear if his eyes are blinded which in this case is due to bringer of darkness he has blind spots and if he has blind spots he can get attacked easily and wont kno where the attcks are coming from or what to use. similar when itachi used totsuka he could have used shinra tensei but he did not kno the attack was coming. BUT in naruto's rasengan scenario you mentioned his summons were out so he does not have to look at naruto.

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see here there is a summon(chameleon) and it can see naruto thus nagato doesnt have to look at naruto during his attack.

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right here his eyes were blinded and thus could not see an attack coming and could not beat it, the same scenario is what would happen with hashi once he uses bringer of death. And this is no plot no jutsu as kabuto specifically says that his shared vision allowed him to make up for his mobility which allowed him to defend and attack against effectively against his opponents. Once could not see it he could not defend against it and then got sealed

Dude and he is blind meaning he does not knno where the attacks are coming from he wouldnt magically just catch weapons with his asura path without his sight, he would kno where his mokuton can come from and the pollen can poison him too and kill him he is at a terrible disadvantage against hashirama's tech bringer of darkness

I hope you understand and next time use proof and say stuff like he can use all 6 paths at once or during CT that is nothing but speculation and vs threads we dont go with stuff like that.

 

[PainIsGod]

I didnt say worst dumbass and he along with madara are bad user but i havent seen tobi yet what im saying is that Nagato could have been more powerful than anyone if he was a better user

And its not over hyping how about you counter and not focus on small things

He used the rinnegan to its fullest. how is he terrible? cause he didnt use nature affinities? why waste time with those when he has stronger techs.

And whats with the name calling? Umadbro?

 

[narutownsyouall]

He used the rinnegan to its fullest. how is he terrible? cause he didnt use nature affinities? why waste time with those when he has stronger techs.

And whats with the name calling? Umadbro?

Nature affinities are alot better than path techniques and btw i was angry that you manage to catch a single detail and not counter my points so did i win? you couldnt manage to pull anything from nowhere?

ARE YOU MAD BROTACO?

 

[6pathofpain]

dont look at the pics in the links but what kabuto is saying if he loses his eyesight he is very vulnerable to attacks like kabuto said. read more of it its really self explanatory.


rain tech first of all just allows him to realize if someone other than the chakra of himself or an outside source has come inside his village. it does not tell him the exact position of his enemy. second rain does not stop pollen where the hell did you get that idea from. nagato can easily be poisoned when he is blind and the rain doesnt tell where the poison is either.

again rain does not give the exact position of his enemies only allowing him to know if someone is in his village.

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he did not drown the 6 tails that was extra stuff in the filler not present in the manga there is a difference.

o i get wat kabuto's sayin but wat im sayin is this is comin from some1 how doesnt tknow the rinnengun nearly as well as nagato which is y i wouldnt base nagato's skills on that fight cause nagato wasnt controling himself jus like u would base the 1st skills on his fight with the 3rd...secondly the rain WILL give him a general direction n which he needs to attack an with the deva wide range attacks that will help greatly...thirdly when the rain hits the pollen it WILL take it outta the air i mean come on that happens n real life smh...An last i never said that he drowned the 6 tails an if i did my bad i ****ed up an am to lazy to read it bak to make sure, but wat i was sayin is that nagato CAN drown the forest after its summoned.

 

[6pathofpain]

He is very strong no doubt but some characters can challenge him and even beat him.

characters who can beat him with almost no doubt

madara
tobi
kabuto
naruto

others like hashi have a good chance but it is somewhat debatable

so no he is not the strongest ever and almost every OP character is overrated and this inludes nagato

wait, who will kabuto beat?

 

[Tosen]

Hashirama controls the whole battlefield.

Nagato has little control short of destroying stuff.

Nagato has shown to be a terrible rinnegan user and has only 6 real abilities

Hashirama will take down every one of his summons. The bird cant do anything unless it comes down to his level so it's screwed.

Nagato does have a massive amount of chakra but it doesnt mean he can use all of these techniques in succession as you say. (edo allowed him such feats)

Hashirama can counter deva path with his ability to create WS from his body
and if need be hide under ground for any almighty pushes (white zetsu can do it and he was made from hashi DNA)

Asura path wont do much to hashirama

If Nagato gets close enough for the use of human path then Hashirama can push him away or put him in the Bringer of darkness which is effective against Madara who had EMS so it will work

I explaned that Animal path will be beat by WS

Petra Path cant absorb solid objects such as Trees

Hashirama can heal himself fast along with change the battlefield to further help him and his flowers could put him to sleep

Hashirama outclasses him in a lot of ways

WTf man Nagato was the best rinnegan user after the sage. He leveled a village all by himself using only rinnegan tech that he channled miles away from using only dead puppets.

PLZ use manga facts nxt time :izuna:

 

[BlackBomber]

Im gonna say Hashirama Madara basically praises the 1st power and techniques and he calls Nagato a brat

 

[narutownsyouall]

WTf man Nagato was the best rinnegan user after the sage. He leveled a village all by himself using only rinnegan tech that he channled miles away from using only dead puppets.

PLZ use manga facts nxt time :izuna:

First of all from my point of view he could do a lot more with rinnegan and secondly i dont see you countering any of the points i have made

 

[House]

I'd tend to disagree with every one of you. Here is why. Spoiler alert.

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1st Hokage was able to heal himself without any handseals, and he was able to cast destruction without even thinking about it. The latest manga had brought a lot of info on the 1st hokage. I'd highly doubt that Nagato could take on the 1st Hokage. You won't be able to deflect all those roots coming from everywhere, you'll be binded. He'll make a forest, Nagato is done.

 

[BlackBomber]

WTf man Nagato was the best rinnegan user after the sage. He leveled a village all by himself using only rinnegan tech that he channled miles away from using only dead puppets.

PLZ use manga facts nxt time :izuna:

he's the only rinnegan user after the sage of six path tobi basically did the same thing nagato did by controling the jinchuuriki plus biju and tobi has yet to show his full abilities

 

[6pathofpain]

I'd tend to disagree with every one of you. Here is why. Spoiler alert.

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1st Hokage was able to heal himself without any handseals, and he was able to cast destruction without even thinking about it. The latest manga had brought a lot of info on the 1st hokage. I'd highly doubt that Nagato could take on the 1st Hokage. You won't be able to deflect all those roots coming from everywhere, you'll be binded. He'll make a forest, Nagato is done.

trees r kinda useless against some1 who can fly...

 

[Tosen]

First of all from my point of view he could do a lot more with rinnegan and secondly i dont see you countering any of the points i have made

I did using 6 individual bodies at the same time and concentrating a specific path into a dead body is terrific control my man.

+ Nagato had it for 30+ years, he has the most experience with it besides the So6P

he's the only rinnegan user after the sage of six path tobi basically did the same thing nagato did by controling the jinchuuriki plus biju and tobi has yet to show his full abilities

Nagato had 30 + year sof experience with his rinnegan my friend.

 

[House]

trees r kinda useless against some1 who can fly...

:sy: Save the idiocy for someone else.

 

[narutownsyouall]

I did using 6 individual bodies at the same time and concentrating a specific path into a dead body is terrific control my man.

+ Nagato had it for 30+ years, he has the most experience with it besides the So6P


Nagato had 30 + year sof experience with his rinnegan my friend.

Im not saying he was terrible but he could have been better

 

[Tosen]

Im not saying he was terrible but he could have been better

Can u give evidence to this opinion of urs my friend?

 

[6pathofpain]

I cant believe this is still going on smh...Look the forest with the pollen thing is useless agianst some1 who can A fly, or B punch the ground an create a ocean, nagato can change the battlefield jus as easy as the first...2 when it comes to taijustsu that would only result in the use of the human path which if he touches him he WILL take his soul...the blackness thing is really the only problem but seeing how nagato can see chakra we do no if he'd b able to since him or not but even if he cant he can use the rain to get a general area of where he's attack an attack accordingly an seein how nagatos deva path has alot of pretty wide range attacks like the almighty push that wont b alot of a problem...An honestly the first can keep healin himself if he wants but its jus gonna **** his chakra up, an make no mistake if nagato can power 6 dead bodies, get them to the leaf village, have all of them have a seprate fight, destroy the leaf village, have the all fight sage mode naruto, beat 3 giant toads an killed the little grandpa 1 which im guessin suppose to b really strong at least they kinda made him seem that way, then beat hinata, fight 6 tails the use the planetary devastation , beat six tails, was about to fight 8 tails fought sage mode again, then still had enough chakra to bring every1 n the village bak to life, an that was all while he was sick so hopefully every1 can stop sayin he doesnt have stamina or enough chakra...An yes he can use the paths at once cause some1 posted the link when he was fightin killer b an naruto he absorb both of there chakra an was using the other path which was about to blow b's face off...An wat exactly can the 1st do agianst the planetary devastation cause i dont think a trees gonna destroy a floating black ball, lets b real guys all the 1st can really do is punch hard an sommon trees an wood, i believe he can also use water but that hasnt been seen so we dont no to wat extent an he can do the blackness thing...yea hes strong, but not that strong.

 

[6pathofpain]

:sy: Save the idiocy for someone else.

well y dont u explain y the trees will b useful an ill explain y ur wrong

 

[Wolfang714]

Maybe this will help, not saying it will 100%.
Taijutsu battle: If i were Hashi i wudnt even try cuz of the Human, Asura, and Deva paths Nagato has.
Ninjutsu battle: Kinda tough actually, Nagato could just Banshou Ten'in and Shinra Tensei Hashi and spam that. But if Hashirama figures out the 5 second cooldown then it's gonna be really hard for Nagato. I still vote Nagato because of Shinra Tensei.
Genjutsu battle: Hashirama has Bringer-of-Darkness but it's useless against Nagato since he has Rinnegan and can see the flow of chakra.

 

[House]

I cant believe this is still going on smh...Look the forest with the pollen thing is useless agianst some1 who can A fly, or B punch the ground an create a ocean, nagato can change the battlefield jus as easy as the first...2 when it comes to taijustsu that would only result in the use of the human path which if he touches him he WILL take his soul...the blackness thing is really the only problem but seeing how nagato can see chakra we do no if he'd b able to since him or not but even if he cant he can use the rain to get a general area of where he's attack an attack accordingly an seein how nagatos deva path has alot of pretty wide range attacks like the almighty push that wont b alot of a problem...An honestly the first can keep healin himself if he wants but its jus gonna **** his chakra up, an make no mistake if nagato can power 6 dead bodies, get them to the leaf village, have all of them have a seprate fight, destroy the leaf village, have the all fight sage mode naruto, beat 3 giant toads an killed the little grandpa 1 which im guessin suppose to b really strong at least they kinda made him seem that way, then beat hinata, fight 6 tails the use the planetary devastation , beat six tails, was about to fight 8 tails fought sage mode again, then still had enough chakra to bring every1 n the village bak to life, an that was all while he was sick so hopefully every1 can stop sayin he doesnt have stamina or enough chakra...An yes he can use the paths at once cause some1 posted the link when he was fightin killer b an naruto he absorb both of there chakra an was using the other path which was about to blow b's face off...An wat exactly can the 1st do agianst the planetary devastation cause i dont think a trees gonna destroy a floating black ball, lets b real guys all the 1st can really do is punch hard an sommon trees an wood, i believe he can also use water but that hasnt been seen so we dont no to wat extent an he can do the blackness thing...yea hes strong, but not that strong.

You make it sound like the 1st Hokage would be a childplay. =/ From what do you think Madara died from? Tripped on a rock and cracked his neck? You're greatly underestimating the 1st Hokage... and get your facts straight cause I don't understand most of it. Organize this shit.

well y dont u explain y the trees will b useful an ill explain y ur wrong

*sinks down to your level* Why would a little ball in the sky would mean a potential danger? I haz a baseball in da back, I can throw it up, it comes down. O_O go figure.

 

[Deadai]

I can honestly say this is one of the better versus threads I have seen on the base good job:scorps: ​