Hashirama vs Nagato

[6pathofpain]

it doesnt stop his abilities but stops him from effectively using it and makes him vulnerable. For example

he would kno exactly where the attacks would come from and as we have seen if that happens he can be hurt by jutsus whether ninjutsu, taijutsu, fuinjutsu etc. this is shown during his time against itachi when he got hit by totsuka blade. he was also caught off guard and got hit by amaterasu and sussano's hands which are ninjutsu techs.

he would not know where to exactly use his bansho tenin to pull hashi. he would not use shinra tensei effectively to get him if he doesnt know where he is. he would not use asura path well either. he would be heavily impaired if he is blind

We can base nagatos skills off that fight because he was under kabuto's control an kabuto doesnt under or no how to use the rinnegun or sharigun properly which is y he told madara to his prime an is allowing him to fight on his on cause he would b able to use either eyes to there full power

 

[6pathofpain]

then why the hell did he not sense attacks from itachi lol. all 3 of them especially his attack from totsuka. why did he get hit by hanzo's attack if he could sense where everything with chakra is. why did he need other eyes if he can just sense everyone.

Like ive said before we cant base his skills off that fight cause he was under kabuto's control an i think we can all agree nagato knows how to use the rinnegun better than kabuto, an he didnt sense hanzo's attack but 1 he was n a rage an 2 hes way stronger now, lets not use data form years back that like sayin y didnt naruto use the rasengun against kiba come yo smh

 

[6pathofpain]

preta mode turned on? and idk if it covers the whole body. But regardless he can use his weapons or use his flower world tech and to poison him etc.

the rain can take care of the poision pollen...

 

[6pathofpain]

kabuto specifically mentions this

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sorry but thats not plot no jutsu thats nagato's weakness. kabuto explains this specifically and says why itachi was successful in attacking him. No plot no jutsu there

honestly all that link really looks like its showing is that nagatos weakness is knives n his eyes, an i think that aplies to most lol

 

[arv993]

honestly all that link really looks like its showing is that nagatos weakness is knives n his eyes, an i think that aplies to most lol

the rain can take care of the poision pollen...

if he uses his rain he can find him n the darkness an if he uses the almighty push he can hit him anywhere within striking distance, or he can punch the ground an create an ocean to drowned the forest like he did when he fought six tails

dont look at the pics in the links but what kabuto is saying if he loses his eyesight he is very vulnerable to attacks like kabuto said. read more of it its really self explanatory.


rain tech first of all just allows him to realize if someone other than the chakra of himself or an outside source has come inside his village. it does not tell him the exact position of his enemy. second rain does not stop pollen where the hell did you get that idea from. nagato can easily be poisoned when he is blind and the rain doesnt tell where the poison is either.

again rain does not give the exact position of his enemies only allowing him to know if someone is in his village.

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he did not drown the 6 tails that was extra stuff in the filler not present in the manga there is a difference.

 

[arv993]

lol same here.

I wait so eagerly every year for the next release and was sad when this one ended (I mean Ezio ended)

yea it can never be the same without him but hopefully their next character is awesome as well.

 

[Tosen]

I am surprised at the poll results. Hashirama the most overrated character has of now.

 

[arv993]

Like ive said before we cant base his skills off that fight cause he was under kabuto's control an i think we can all agree nagato knows how to use the rinnegun better than kabuto, an he didnt sense hanzo's attack but 1 he was n a rage an 2 hes way stronger now, lets not use data form years back that like sayin y didnt naruto use the rasengun against kiba come yo smh

that was nagato young and when his legs were intact, he was able to use gedo mazo. he wasnt a little kid by any standard. kabuto used nagato well he knew how to use him to his fullest and if you say that you can make the same argument for hashirama.

 

[arv993]

I am surprised at the poll results. Hashirama the most overrated character has of now.

he is not the only one getting overrated. nagato as well is getting overrated in this thread.

 

[Tosen]

he is not the only one getting overrated. nagato as well is getting overrated in this thread.

Didn't read the the thread to long. But it seems like when something of a character is introduced then that certain character gets overrated atleast until the new overhyped character is introduced. 2 weeks ago it was Naruto now it's Hahsirama and next who knows maybe Sasuke xd

 

[Ryuu..]

he is not the only one getting overrated. nagato as well is getting overrated in this thread.

Nagato is not being overrated, he's the most OP character in the series aside from Edo Madara.

 

[The Work]

Lmao since the new manga.......still Hashirima...Healed himself without signs and seals....HELL YEA.

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Ahahaha Nagato took on the whole village ,3 giant toad summon, 3 sages, & kurama and he still had the will and stamina to fight did he nott??? What happened if he was to call up gedo mazo what would naruto have done he could barely 1 tail beast by himself??? Nagato would rape the 1st hokage

 

[arv993]

Nagato is not being overrated, he's the most OP character in the series aside from Edo Madara.

He is very strong no doubt but some characters can challenge him and even beat him.

characters who can beat him with almost no doubt

madara
tobi
kabuto
naruto

others like hashi have a good chance but it is somewhat debatable

so no he is not the strongest ever and almost every OP character is overrated and this inludes nagato

 

[PainIsGod]

he is not the only one getting overrated. nagato as well is getting overrated in this thread.

No nagato is not being overrated compared to hashi. we've seen nagatos feats we know how powerful he is he took on bee naruto and itachi some of the most OP chars and would of killed him if it wasnt for itachi's quick analysis. All we know of hashi is his healing abilities and WS and WS isnt unbeatable. Nagato will absorb it he can absorb any ninjutsu related technique no matter what it is. If anything hashi is overhyped since we've seen really nothing from him.

 

[narutownsyouall]

Hashirama controls the whole battlefield.

Nagato has little control short of destroying stuff.

Nagato has shown to be a terrible rinnegan user and has only 6 real abilities

Hashirama will take down every one of his summons. The bird cant do anything unless it comes down to his level so it's screwed.

Nagato does have a massive amount of chakra but it doesnt mean he can use all of these techniques in succession as you say. (edo allowed him such feats)

Hashirama can counter deva path with his ability to create WS from his body
and if need be hide under ground for any almighty pushes (white zetsu can do it and he was made from hashi DNA)

Asura path wont do much to hashirama

If Nagato gets close enough for the use of human path then Hashirama can push him away or put him in the Bringer of darkness which is effective against Madara who had EMS so it will work

I explaned that Animal path will be beat by WS

Petra Path cant absorb solid objects such as Trees

Hashirama can heal himself fast along with change the battlefield to further help him and his flowers could put him to sleep

Hashirama outclasses him in a lot of ways

 

[Makeril]

I dunno. I think Nagato was untouchable. He had to be sealed.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

i told you he can use multiple abilities at once but please show me proof where he does all at once please. That is nagato at prime his stamina was best it could have been at that point that doesnt change much after that lol.

human path, preta path and asura path is useful in close range and weapons can be thrown and mokuton is also not close range. And if he is blind he wont dodge many attacks or stop them and this is shown in the manga why do u forget that easily. He is at a complete disadvantage and is very vulnerable to attacks when he is blind as seen by the attack by itachi.

I kno that shinra tensei can go 360 but that is not useful unnless he uses a bigger form of shinra tensei yea like the one against konoha but that makes him also makes him useless due to an extended period and dont forget he is blind and again he is not fast one either meaning an easy target especially if his shinra tensei is used. HUman, preta and asura can be used but he doesnt know where the attack is coming from lol that ,means he would more less be in the same situation as this or even worse

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kabuto also goes in depth on this as i have shown you the pages b4


And also you keep saying he can use CT while using other paths please prove that, he did not do that in the manga so all we can do is speculate and he didnt seem capable of it. And this can be done to the other side as well

And you kept saying he can do all rinnegan techs at once in previous posts but one you have no proof on that and is all speculation. again he can do multiple paths but not all once or while using CT as we have seen.

Oh my god am I talking to a brick wall here?

Why cant you undersand the concept of Nagato not using all of his abilities at once is because he didnt need to? If he did have you consider the fact that Bee and Naruto would have died? Its called Plot-no jutsu, you are basing your facts and judgements merely on what occured in the manga when in fact you should be considering that the storyline doesnt involve in these versus fights.

You must be thick if you dont get the point as to why I mentioned those three paths being activated while Bringer Of Darkness. I'll explain it to you for the nth time or so:

Any attacks Hashirama throws at Nagato would be useless because of those three path abilities. Close range or not he doesnt need to visually see an attack or a person is coming at him. There is a page that shows Nagato not requiring to look Naruto while he is attacking him with Rasengan:

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Also your point on the interval on Shinra Tensei, again this is Nagato who has the abilities all in one body making him even stronger and faster than individual paths, even Naruto states that:

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For the nth time or so as long as Nagato has the Rinnegan, he has the higher chance of winning. U_U

Am off for tonight.

 

[PainIsGod]

Hashirama controls the whole battlefield.

Nagato has little control short of destroying stuff.

Nagato has shown to be a terrible rinnegan user and has only 6 real abilities

Hashirama will take down every one of his summons. The bird cant do anything unless it comes down to his level so it's screwed.

Nagato does have a massive amount of chakra but it doesnt mean he can use all of these techniques in succession as you say. (edo allowed him such feats)

Hashirama can counter deva path with his ability to create WS from his body
and if need be hide under ground for any almighty pushes (white zetsu can do it and he was made from hashi DNA)

Asura path wont do much to hashirama

If Nagato gets close enough for the use of human path then Hashirama can push him away or put him in the Bringer of darkness which is effective against Madara who had EMS so it will work

I explaned that Animal path will be beat by WS

Petra Path cant absorb solid objects such as Trees

Hashirama can heal himself fast along with change the battlefield to further help him and his flowers could put him to sleep

Hashirama outclasses him in a lot of ways

Worst rinnegan user? LMAO wow hes by far better than madara and tobi with the rinnegan your obviously a hater WOOD STYLE ISNT UNBEATABLE STOP HYPING HIM

 

[narutownsyouall]

Worst rinnegan user? LMAO wow hes by far better than madara and tobi with the rinnegan your obviously a hater WOOD STYLE ISNT UNBEATABLE STOP HYPING HIM

I didnt say worst dumbass and he along with madara are bad user but i havent seen tobi yet what im saying is that Nagato could have been more powerful than anyone if he was a better user

And its not over hyping how about you counter and not focus on small things