Sorry. I misunderstood what you were asking. I thought you were looking for an argument that was pro-God and I didn't realize you were looking for physical evidence. I'll give it a shot. To ask for physical evidence of God is like asking for physical evidence of wind. You cant see it, you can't hold it, you can't "show it" but you can see its effects. Its the same with God. You can't see, feel, or touch him, but everyday, you feel his effects. Creation itself is a testament to the existence of God. This is the point in the argument when you present evolutionist ideas to counter the thought that God created all things. Your turn. Btw, thanks for participating.
[Debate] Does God exist?
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hawaiianmike
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I don't understand why people keep having this debate on the base. If you believe in a higher power great! Now I know why some people are missing on sundays. If you don't that great to enjoy your sunday.
But people why must to fight and flame each other based on religious beliefs? Why do you insist on making threads like this when this site was meant for debates amongst Naruto enthusiast?
If you really want to push and debate about your religion I suggest to go join some of the groups at your local church or something.
Although I love to read threads that are different and are more interesting than the usual Minato Vs. Itachi. Enough is enough.
I personally don't believe in god anymore. I used to be a Roman Catholic and had all my sacraments and everything done. But I chose a different path when the time came. I was brought up in that religion and was all I knew up until high school then my eyes were opened to the world and I have been a non believer since then. If that condemns me to hell then so be it. All I have to say is your devil will have his hands full when the time comes.
But people why must to fight and flame each other based on religious beliefs? Why do you insist on making threads like this when this site was meant for debates amongst Naruto enthusiast?
If you really want to push and debate about your religion I suggest to go join some of the groups at your local church or something.
Although I love to read threads that are different and are more interesting than the usual Minato Vs. Itachi. Enough is enough.
I personally don't believe in god anymore. I used to be a Roman Catholic and had all my sacraments and everything done. But I chose a different path when the time came. I was brought up in that religion and was all I knew up until high school then my eyes were opened to the world and I have been a non believer since then. If that condemns me to hell then so be it. All I have to say is your devil will have his hands full when the time comes.
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acdcrockgods
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so if you go your whole life thinking god dont exist and he does somehow turn out to exist what exactly are you going to say to him? you're screwed from that point on b/c it's nothing you can say but hello gates of hell no one is 100% on if he exist or not so why risk your soul. in other words its you're soul not minds so you do what ever the f**k you want to do with it
So your basicaly saying that everyone that dosent believe in god but is a perfectly normal human being goes to hell? Going by that logic anyone who isnt raised into relegion goes to hell, makes perfect sense.
1. Even if evolution was true, there are several schools of thought within Christiandom which believe that evolution was the vehicle by which God created all things. That would mean that the beginning of the bible was allegorical and not literal. Thus, evolution doesn't disprove God.
2. Personally I don't believe in evolution. I believe in the seven day creation period. I think evolution still has too many holes. Microevolution, i get. A horse changing into a different form of horse, or a dog ancestor bringing about many varieties of dogs makes sense, but we have no proof that over time, oceanic goo will become bacteria, which will become bugs, the fish, then............. people. We have yet to be able to reproduce said events or find a scientific way that they could hypothetically be reproduced, so thats why i'm a creationist... but i could be wrong.
1. Censored or not stop cursing, it's not the Christian thing to do.
2. The main flaw in your logic (also known as Pascals Wager) is that there are an abundance of different gods in different faiths. So it's impossible to pick the right one, you have to go with what you chose. Sure, it'd be a safer bet to revere and abide by the rules of God but which one?
3. You shouldn't believe in God based on fear alone.
well, the think is, evolution has facts... But it might be wrong too, nothing is certain...
Religion on the other hand, expects you to belive it just because it sais so, and threating you you'll end up in hell if you question it...
What I belive in is the Chaos theory: everything is possible...
Yeah, that includes a tiny potential for gods to exist... U_U
acdcrockgods
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billions of years have pasted and i haven't seen a monkey nor fish turn into a human or even close? science is a bunch of what if's their actually out their trying to prove if the big guy is real or not. how can they prove something that's beyond a human, sh*t they can't even solve silly shit that's unknown to use on are own planet
The main basis of evolution on which evolution theory is built upon is that the genes are transfered from one generation to an other .This produce an organism inherited traits.In other words, genes and dna restore the design caracteristics of a creature like his shape.So the genes and dna are responsible for passing this information to an other generation.
Let's see wheter this is correct or false because if the foundation of evolution is proving to be false it's mean there is no theory evolution like an house cannot stand without a foundation.
On the left we have the cell wich is the workspace of genes and dna meaning that genes and dna can only work within the cell and when the dna is read, proteins are produced excreted outside of the cell.Let's take the collagen protein as an example , so as you can see in the middle ,we have millions and millions of collagen proteins outside of the cell and there are no longer under the control of genes and dna.
So the Big question how millions and millions of proteines know to arange themself in the perfect order of the human hand as you can see on the right.
The answer is NO, because as we said the control of the DNA is found only within the nucleus of the cell.
Thus it can be concluded that genes and DNA can not code (memorize) the design information of a creature and as such design changes occurring in a certain generation of organisms can not be transferred to the next generation using genes and so there is no basis for the evolution claim.
So the question now is can anyone trust such a theory and base his or her faith on it?
The logical answer is NO.
Let's see wheter this is correct or false because if the foundation of evolution is proving to be false it's mean there is no theory evolution like an house cannot stand without a foundation.
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On the left we have the cell wich is the workspace of genes and dna meaning that genes and dna can only work within the cell and when the dna is read, proteins are produced excreted outside of the cell.Let's take the collagen protein as an example , so as you can see in the middle ,we have millions and millions of collagen proteins outside of the cell and there are no longer under the control of genes and dna.
So the Big question how millions and millions of proteines know to arange themself in the perfect order of the human hand as you can see on the right.
The answer is NO, because as we said the control of the DNA is found only within the nucleus of the cell.
Thus it can be concluded that genes and DNA can not code (memorize) the design information of a creature and as such design changes occurring in a certain generation of organisms can not be transferred to the next generation using genes and so there is no basis for the evolution claim.
So the question now is can anyone trust such a theory and base his or her faith on it?
The logical answer is NO.
Evolution is still just a theory. Sure I could see how it makes sense but without the actual proof of it happening we can't be certain on it. Just like we can't prove the existence of one particular God. It all depends on what your cup of tea is really.
Well, there's a few elements to that. Biblically God is just, and when all is said and done, we all go on trial for what we've done, Christian or not. Now, there are rules for how a person should live. In the old testament, it was ten commandments, but Jesus sums it up into two: love God, and love people. If you are guilty for breaking these rules, then you have to be judged. News-flash: we've all broken the rules and we would all go to hell. However, God has a great love for people and didn't want that to happen, despite his need to invoke justice. This is where Jesus come in, who is by very nature God, and dies, paying what would have been our price for where we've broken the rules. If you believe in Jesus, that he died, came back, and just apologize for what we've done wrong, we can go to heaven. If not, hell. But its important to understand that we have all committed crimes that deserve God's death penalty, so none of us are really the "good people" we think we are.
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