Clearing up the confusion on who the strongest Hokage is......

[enditallsin]

if i ever hear that sarutobi in his prime has had a fight on the same level as hashirama and won than i may admit that hes the strongest until than hes ain't the strongest.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

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What does anymore mean? That means these days, right now, nowadays, at this moment. The word anymore also implies that there was a time when there were on Hashirama's level.

Does it even mention the word Hokage? How can you conclude that it implies he's the strongest Hokage?

it implies generally not only the hokage, but the whole shinobi world

 

[Ryuu..]

it implies generally not only the hokage, but the whole shinobi world

But not taking into account dead shinobi such as Hiruzen etc.

 

[Wakizashi]

the leaf village create the best shinobi!!

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

But not taking into account dead shinobi such as Hiruzen etc.

i can agree with hiruzen since it was stated in the databook,U_U
but somehow i just want it to be hashirama but am not that extreme to completely ignore the author statement

 

[siyo]

" out of all dead hokage, only hiruzen hype that can probably match him
beside hashirama i never saw any character being compared to the sage,

and yeah people heard about his power, and they heard that from the people who actually witness hashirama prowess there is a possibility that it was exaggerated,
but then again one of hashirama jutsu take down all the 5th kage like totally

oh and also i never say something like hashirama and the sage is equal, nor do i have problem about hiruzen is better than hashirama(until the manga/databook stated it)

but in that page its clearly imply that hashirama is THE BOSS

I agree, Hashirama is a beast.This chapter proved that the current kages are nothing compared to the ones in the past which is crazy. He will hyped even further in the near future and it will be interesting whether Kishi will change his mind about the ranking or he will simply dance around the statements like he's been doing so far..

Hashirama is arguably the second strongest Hokage (i think so), however Minato had the most potential out of all the Hokage.

 

[Ryuu..]

i can agree with hiruzen since it was stated in the databook,U_U
but somehow i just want it to be hashirama but am not that extreme to completely ignore the author statement

Dude, I want it to be Hashirama also. But i'm also seeing too many people saying Minato > Hiruzen and i'm afraid that can't slide..........................................

 

[Wakizashi]

I agree, Hashirama is a beast.This chapter proved that the current kages are nothing compared to the ones in the past which is crazy. He will hyped even further in the near future and it will be interesting whether Kishi will change his mind about the ranking or he will simply dance around the statements like he's been doing so far..

Hashirama is arguably the second strongest Hokage (i think so), however Minato had the most potential out of all the Hokage.

the tobirama was the best at time space ninjutsu and water release jutsu. so therefore he was the second strongest hokage.

 

[Minator93]

This thread is divided into two parts :

1. Hashirama or Hiruzen [Prime]
2. Minato or Hiruzen [Prime]

Now we know jack shit about Hiruzen Prime but still there are people who rank him even above Hashirama based on Iruka's words [which also has the Past tense argument]

To be honest I think its

1. Hashirama
2. Minato/Tobirama
3. Hiruzen [Just Hiruzen]/Tobirama
4. Tobirama
5. Tsunade

Don't underestimate Tobirama he replaced the 1st hokage afterall...I mean it doesn't say anything about 1st being dead or retiring...maybe the 1st felt that Tobirama is a better or more suitable person for the job.

I haven't seen anything from Prime Hiruzen.

But its stated that Prime hiruzen > Oro

But Anko also suggested that 4th Hokage > Oro

From 248 and 249 I am going with Minato > Hiruzen.

That's all.

 

[Wakizashi]

This thread is divided into two parts :

1. Hashirama or Hiruzen [Prime]
2. Minato or Hiruzen [Prime]

Now we know jack shit about Hiruzen Prime but still there are people who rank him even above Hashirama based on Iruka's words [which also has the Past tense argument]

To be honest I think its

1. Hashirama
2. Minato/Tobirama
3. Hiruzen [Just Hiruzen]/Tobirama
4. Tobirama
5. Tsunade

Don't underestimate Tobirama he replaced the 1st hokage afterall...I mean it doesn't say anything about 1st being dead or retiring...maybe the 1st felt that Tobirama is a better or more suitable person for the job.

I haven't seen anything from Prime Hiruzen.

But its stated that Prime hiruzen > Oro

But Anko also suggested that 4th Hokage > Oro

From 248 and 249 I am going with Minato > Hiruzen.

That's all.

this list is too confusing

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

I agree, Hashirama is a beast.This chapter proved that the current kages are nothing compared to the ones in the past which is crazy. He will hyped even further in the near future and it will be interesting whether Kishi will change his mind about the ranking or he will simply dance around the statements like he's been doing so far..

Hashirama is arguably the second strongest Hokage (i think so), however Minato had the most potential out of all the Hokage.

all hokage's have the potential to become the strongest hokage(idk about tsunade) but not all of them can live long like hiruzen to completely release their true potential U_U

Dude, I want it to be Hashirama also. But i'm also seeing too many people saying Minato > Hiruzen and i'm afraid that can't slide..........................................

there is one up there LOL

 

[Ryuu..]

This thread is divided into two parts :

1. Hashirama or Hiruzen [Prime]
2. Minato or Hiruzen [Prime]

Now we know jack shit about Hiruzen Prime but still there are people who rank him even above Hashirama based on Iruka's words [which also has the Past tense argument]

To be honest I think its

1. Hashirama
2. Minato/Tobirama
3. Hiruzen [Just Hiruzen]/Tobirama
4. Tobirama
5. Tsunade

Don't underestimate Tobirama he replaced the 1st hokage afterall...I mean it doesn't say anything about 1st being dead or retiring...maybe the 1st felt that Tobirama is a better or more suitable person for the job.

I haven't seen anything from Prime Hiruzen.

But its stated that Prime hiruzen > Oro

But Anko also suggested that 4th Hokage > Oro

From 248 and 249 I am going with Minato > Hiruzen.

That's all.

So you basically just said that what Kishi has said (In the data books, which are law) is completely wrong, well played dude I applaud you.

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[Minator93]

this list is too confusing

The list suggests that Tobirama can rank from 2nd to 4th place...but there's not enough Info in Tobirama....that's why I've put him on all 3 place with an " / "

And instead of going with 2 Hiruzens [Prime] or [Old] I've taken the Hiruzen edition that we saw in 248 and 249 [ almost the same age as Jiraya ]

 

[Wakizashi]

So you basically just said that what Kishi has said (In the data books, which are law) is completely wrong, well played dude I applaud you.

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i will share in that applaud

 

[hadebayo]

minato is stronger than hiruzen nd he's the most powerful hokage ever

 

[siyo]

the tobirama was the best at time space ninjutsu and water release jutsu. so therefore he was the second strongest hokage.

Where can I see this? It was only compared to Tobi/Minato...nothing about it being stronger.We don't know much about him, but we do know that his brother is stronger since hashirama owned the title as the strongest senju to have ever lived (he also faced the strongest Uchiha).Hiruzen was hailed as the strongest Hokage/kage period, and Minato got praise from a lot of characters in Naruto e.g Jiraiya and Kakashi.Tsunade is also...wait nevermind.

all hokage's have the potential to become the strongest hokage(idk about tsunade) but not all of them can live long like hiruzen to completely release their true potential U_U

Not really. It all depends on the talent and the only thing we have to go by is the manga.Minato was praised by pretty much everyone about his potential/talent while its missing from some of the other kages.However, he died too young so he's hard to judge.

 

[Wakizashi]

i think that if minato and hashirama fought and hashirama was spamming his wood style then minato would be able to place his fomula on his would style which would make it hard to catch him. once minato gets in close range then things would be difficult for hashirama.

 

[Minator93]

So you basically just said that what Kishi has said (In the data books, which are law) is completely wrong, well played dude I applaud you.

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Are you even Listening to your self

I gonna shut the Databook thingy this instant so get ready :

1.
Naruto Points according to Databook = 26

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Sakura Points according to Databook = 26

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2.
Kakashi Points according to Databook = 34.5

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Kakuzu Points according to Databook

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= 32.5

3.
Sasuke Points accoring to Databook

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= 31.5

Deidara Points according to Databook

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= 32


Kakuzu Ranks below Kakashi in the Databook but Kakashi couldn't beat him actually he was about to die

Deidara has upperhand against Sasuke [considering Databook] but he died

According to Databook SAKURA = NARUTO. [nuff said in this case]


This thing ****s your laws to the core.

 

[Ryuu..]

minato is stronger than hiruzen nd he's the most powerful hokage ever

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[Minator93]

hes another one thank wanks minato to the extremes @ minator

don't talk to me without a reason you queerbag