in his interview he said he would of done a few thing different and one of his point Evan thou he was joking and said he would of drawn kakashi without a mask because he cant because the expectation is to high but to the point allot of writers would if they had chance would change a few thing in there storiesErrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr he created the manga so if he wanted to change it he would.
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Except it wasn't. Kabuto said that "There are no longer any ninja on Hashirama's level", not there never was. We already know Hiruzen was at least a bit above him, but that's about it.Hashirama is first. It is clearly stated in the last issue of the manga by Kabuto. End of story. Maybe Hiruzen is a little above Minato and then Tobirama and Tsunade.
Let me make this easy for you:
Hashirama > Minato due to feats, hype and:
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Hiruzen > Minato due to:
Kishi said so
What? You've got to be kidding man. I'll give you hype and feats.Hashirama > Minato due to feats, hype and:
To be honest, there's no way we can speculate this thoroughly. Kishimoto trolled characters so bad. He hyped up Tobirama for some time in Part 1 then never showed him again. Tobirama was a master at Space Time jutsu, maybe even on the same league as Minato.
I honestly want to see more of Tobirama, more than I want to see more of Hashirama or Sarutobi.
What? You've got to be kidding man. I'll give you hype and feats.
Hype:
"I believe that only you [naruto] can surpass the Fourth Hokage.
~ Kakashi, The Legendary Copy Ninja of the Leaf.
"There was never a man that could surpass him [Fourth Hokage] "
~ The Legendary Raikage
"That unrivalled strength [Minato], that carefree smile.."
~ Masashi Kishimoto, Creator of Naruto.................
Aw come on, everybody pales in comparison to the fourth lord. As a shinobi his capacity was unparalleled, a true one-of-a kind.
~Jiraiya, the Legendary Sannin.
Feats:
They are all hokages so they all know at least 1000 jutsu:
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Minato can tell the number of enemies by touching the ground
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Determining the exact number of enemies even a kage bunshin
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Minato deflecting kunais with a shuriken
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Minato deducing the mechanics of chidori with just one look..I can't recall another one having this kind of feat.
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This is the most amazing feat. Killing 50 men in a blink of an eye. If we were to get the average time for Minato to kill a shinobi then it's around 6-8 millisecond.. Remember that FTG can't kill. It will just send him to where he wants to go. How can he kill a single shinobi in just 6-8 millisecond? Isn't this amazing? The speed our mind can think is about 200-300 millisecond. How come the 50th shinobi or the last one Minato killed was not able to defend himself? Here is my explanation:
The average time for Minato to kill a single shinobi was 6-8 millisecond. It means that the 50th person was able to think what happened after Minato killed 30. It will only take 120-160 millisecond for Minato to kill the remaining 20. Since our mind can think as fast as 200-300 millisecond then the 50th person was not able to counter the attack after realizing what happened.
To create a jutsu= mind( to think what jutsu to use) + molding of chakra + handseals. Can someone create a very fast jutsu below 120-160 millisecond? This is 120-160/1000 of a second.
Why can't you consider this a great feat? No one can do this even BM naruto. If BM naruto can move as fast as Minato, can he kill an opponent as fast as Minato? Do you think Hashirama or Hiruzen can actually counter this kind of speed?
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Lastly, Minato defeating Tobi using rasengan. Rasengan is not known to be a fast jutsu yet Minato was able to use it to hit Tobi. What a feat!!
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Hey mate, is Minato touching that lightning spark? Look how shocked kakashi is..could it be that........fodder or not they will be defeated in an instant. look at raikage he was about to die in milsecs. mahiru is not a fodder. coz he can create shadow clone that is a jounin level tech
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raikage was going to die? Nofodder or not they will be defeated in an instant. look at raikage he was about to die in milsecs. mahiru is not a fodder. coz he can create shadow clone that is a jounin level tech
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raikage was going to die? No
Minato never met raikage nor knew alot about him, all he knew was that "he had a very fast attack"
He would have realized first hand that a kunai cannot injure raikage while in his lightning armour.... Sasuke's chidori barely scratched him... and you think a kunai would do damage? no..
i think he just raised his hand to stop kakashi. but what kakashi said is a hype on minato. no matter how many enemies he will do it in an instant like his nicknameHey mate, is Minato touching that lightning spark? Look how confused kakashi is..could it be that........
couldn't agree more +repOk so, LOL, I've seen that some people are slightly confused about who the strongest Hokage is.
Right, let me explain real easy for some of you................Minato is not the strongest Hokage. He is third strongest at best.
1. Hiruzen PRIME
2. Hashirama Senju
3. Minato Namikaze
4. Tobirama Senju
5. Tsunade
Ok people need to realise Hiruzen in his prime was actually the strongest hokage. I cannot stress the importance of the word 'PRIME' enough when talking about Hiruzen.
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And the ultimate conformation (credit to Viewtiful for pointing this out):
Even if you point out that Iruka could have some bias or that characters that have stated this don't know anything, Kishimoto himself says in every databook that Hiruzen in his prime was the most powerful Hokage. In the first databook alone, this is stated at least three times:
Page 117: "He is such a genius ninja that he was even called the 'Professor', and he still garners everyone's respect as the strongest Hokage in history." (「„プロフェッサー”と呼ばれたほ� ��の天才忍者であり、歴代最強の火影 として皆の尊敬を集め続ける。」, "'Purofessā' to yobareta hodo no tensai ninja de ari, rekidai saikyō no Hokage toshite mina no sonkei o atsume tsuzukeru")
Page 119: "'Strongest in history', 'genius', et cetera, the words used to describe the Third Hokage are filled with respect." (「„歴代最強”„天才”など、三代� ��火影を形容する言葉は賞賛に満ちて いる。」, "'Rekidai saikyō' 'tensai' nado, Sandaime Hokage o keiyōsuru kotoba wa shōsan ni michite iru.")
Page 265: "The Third is called the strongest, even among the past Hokage, and he is even admired as the 'God of Shinobi'." (「三代目は歴代火影の中でも最強と� ��われ、„忍の神”と謳われたことも 。」, "Sandaime wa rekidai Hokage no naka demo saikyō to iware, 'Shinobi no Kami' to utawareta koto mo")
Being old=/= being irrelevant. Both the 2nd AND the 3rd databook state the same thing.
I know alot of you don't want to accept it because you've only seen the old man version (which i'll admit would lose to Minato probably), but in his prime he was said to have surpassed his predessors and was known as the 'God of Shinobi'.
Hashirama Senju's feats speak for themselves. I don't think I need to waste energy trying to convinve some of you who are well and truley baffled: Hashirama > Minato.
You could argue, if you wanted, Hashirama > Hiruzen due to feats etc, but just understand what 'knowing all of the jutsu available in konoha actually means'..............However, I admit this top position is easily interchangeable, and it's a VERY even argument when trying to decide who's stronger out of Hiruzen and Hashirama.
The fact is, even at the age of 69 Hiruzen was still able to hold his own against edo Hashirama and Tobirama, not to mention Orochimaru. Add to that the fact he still had enough in the tank to use Death reaper jutsu on himself and 2 other shadow clones. This at age 69.
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Why FTG is useless vs Hiruzen:
Minato needs to put seals on things. Tobi had no knowledge of this. Hiruzen did have knowledge of this, he wouldn't be dumb enough to go near a seal. Minato has to throw his Kunai if he wants to do FTG v2; easily countered by Hiruzen shadow clone shuriken.
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Plus, Enma will keep Minato away from placing a seal on Sarutobi
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I gave Minato the benefit of the doubt when it came to Tobirama Senju because we know little about his abilities but i'm sure there are some people who'd argue he could defeat Minato.
Anyway, I was just clearing that up because some people were a little confused, especially when it came to Minato U_U
plus rep for the effort of explaining it and clearing up the confusion maybe if Hiruzen was still in his Prime he would totally defeat the fourth with dificulty but he would win but in his older years minato would defeat him it would not be easy but i reckon minato would win i agree with your order of the five hokages exceptOk so, LOL, I've seen that some people are slightly confused about who the strongest Hokage is.
Right, let me explain real easy for some of you................Minato is not the strongest Hokage. He is third strongest at best.
1. Hiruzen PRIME
2. Hashirama Senju
3. Minato Namikaze
4. Tobirama Senju
5. Tsunade
Ok people need to realise Hiruzen in his prime was actually the strongest hokage. I cannot stress the importance of the word 'PRIME' enough when talking about Hiruzen.
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And the ultimate conformation (credit to Viewtiful for pointing this out):
Even if you point out that Iruka could have some bias or that characters that have stated this don't know anything, Kishimoto himself says in every databook that Hiruzen in his prime was the most powerful Hokage. In the first databook alone, this is stated at least three times:
Page 117: "He is such a genius ninja that he was even called the 'Professor', and he still garners everyone's respect as the strongest Hokage in history." (「„プロフェッサー”と呼ばれたほ� ��の天才忍者であり、歴代最強の火影 として皆の尊敬を集め続ける。」, "'Purofessā' to yobareta hodo no tensai ninja de ari, rekidai saikyō no Hokage toshite mina no sonkei o atsume tsuzukeru")
Page 119: "'Strongest in history', 'genius', et cetera, the words used to describe the Third Hokage are filled with respect." (「„歴代最強”„天才”など、三代� ��火影を形容する言葉は賞賛に満ちて いる。」, "'Rekidai saikyō' 'tensai' nado, Sandaime Hokage o keiyōsuru kotoba wa shōsan ni michite iru.")
Page 265: "The Third is called the strongest, even among the past Hokage, and he is even admired as the 'God of Shinobi'." (「三代目は歴代火影の中でも最強と� ��われ、„忍の神”と謳われたことも 。」, "Sandaime wa rekidai Hokage no naka demo saikyō to iware, 'Shinobi no Kami' to utawareta koto mo")
Being old=/= being irrelevant. Both the 2nd AND the 3rd databook state the same thing.
I know alot of you don't want to accept it because you've only seen the old man version (which i'll admit would lose to Minato probably), but in his prime he was said to have surpassed his predessors and was known as the 'God of Shinobi'.
Hashirama Senju's feats speak for themselves. I don't think I need to waste energy trying to convinve some of you who are well and truley baffled: Hashirama > Minato.
You could argue, if you wanted, Hashirama > Hiruzen due to feats etc, but just understand what 'knowing all of the jutsu available in konoha actually means'..............However, I admit this top position is easily interchangeable, and it's a VERY even argument when trying to decide who's stronger out of Hiruzen and Hashirama.
The fact is, even at the age of 69 Hiruzen was still able to hold his own against edo Hashirama and Tobirama, not to mention Orochimaru. Add to that the fact he still had enough in the tank to use Death reaper jutsu on himself and 2 other shadow clones. This at age 69.
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Why FTG is useless vs Hiruzen:
Minato needs to put seals on things. Tobi had no knowledge of this. Hiruzen did have knowledge of this, he wouldn't be dumb enough to go near a seal. Minato has to throw his Kunai if he wants to do FTG v2; easily countered by Hiruzen shadow clone shuriken.
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Plus, Enma will keep Minato away from placing a seal on Sarutobi
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I gave Minato the benefit of the doubt when it came to Tobirama Senju because we know little about his abilities but i'm sure there are some people who'd argue he could defeat Minato.
Anyway, I was just clearing that up because some people were a little confused, especially when it came to Minato U_U
Focusing only in a kunai made you say that. If what you're saying is true then the hype given to Minato being a rare genius is a mistake. Also, it was said that he can deduce the mechanics of a jutsu by seeing it once. Is this also a mistake?raikage was going to die? No
Minato never met raikage nor knew alot about him, all he knew was that "he had a very fast attack"
He would have realized first hand that a kunai cannot injure raikage while in his lightning armour.... Sasuke's chidori barely scratched him... and you think a kunai would do damage? no..
Couldn't agree moreFocusing only in a kunai made you say that. If what you're saying is true then the hype given to Minato being a rare genius is a mistake. Also, it was said that he can deduce the mechanics of a jutsu by seeing it once. Is this also a mistake?
He knows that raikage is using a lightning shroud yet he attempted to stab him using a kunai. This could mean something. He could have a wind element. Wind>Lightning. How did Minato cut B's tentacle? Look at the size of the tentacle compared to the size of the kunai. Try to cut a 5 inch diameter ripe papaya using a 1 inch knife. I bet you can't cut it in half.