Kakashi vs Kazekage Gaara

[yuan of cruxis]

And Kamui wouldnt work sense gaara mostly has sand in front of him, plus his sand armor

And for Kakashi to start off with Kamui would be a testament that Gaara is stronger

Meaning he's trying to end the fighting as quick as possible

But it wouldnt work anyway unless he got rid of all Gaaras defense

Which wont happen since Gaara could use the sand under the grass like what he did to Kimimmaro in there fight and change the whole terrain

 

[Kratos of cruxis]

Kakashi has more working for him then Gaara's ultimate defense.In terms of a more well rounded shinobi in skills Kakashi has this.Gaara has his ultimate sand defense and his sand based jutsu.
I'm not saying that's nothing, in fact it's a hell of a lot.Few people can get in close to him, few can actually penitrate his armour, and his attacks are brutal and powerful...
but that's the only thing he has. I haven't seen him throw a punch, or defend against a genjutsu or anything.Kakashi is the strongest shringan user, for somebody outside the actual Uchiha clan. Nobody (IMO) who had the chance to weild a Sharingan would ever compare to him.With that unique eye he has copied and mastered over a 1000 jutsu.Now with the few we've seen, we've seen powerful offense (of all ranges short-long), defense.Not all 1000 of his techniques are elemental based so we could expect more.We've seen his high level of taijutsu, and know that he atleast has some ability in genjutsu (Only seen once,we haven't seen him cast as a method of fighting in a battle or ever been in a situation where he had to repell except with Itachi's Tsukuyomi, which couldn't have been broken by his own means for reasons of him not actually possessing the Uchiha blood).

On the issue of Kakashi vs. Gaara. Kakashi has more field expereince in battle



(fought in a war when he was a child and was in the Anbu for a period), and he's
been shown to be one of the more brillient strategists in the series.
He's fast (although we don't know if he's fast enough to get to Gaara) and he's resourceful.

I see Kakashi's more rounded abilities, and stratigics out playing Gaara.

Yu have alot of good points about kakashi but what can he do he's not fast enought nor strong enough to get to gaara nor break away from the sand if his hands get caught he can only use kaumi 3times his water style isnt strong to use without a water source after that he doesnt seem to have much to fight back

 

[Pein67]

Kakashi will massacre Gaara come on now.

 

[Hmph]

So who do you think would take this fight?

Location: Grassy Fields.

Knowledge: Full.

Distance: 20 meters to start.

Please explain why you make your choice.

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Kakashi wins mid-high difficulty.

Kakashi's knowledge on Gaara is more useful.

Kakashi is the smarter/faster/more versatile character due to his variety of jutsu. Quite frankly, a stiationary fighter like Gaara will have trouble hitting Kakashi. Gaara might have the stamina advantage (although Kakashi's stamina has gotten a better these days)

Raiton bunshins/Raikiri etc may prove deadly

and he always has Kamui if Gaara pushes him all the way...something Gaara can't physically react to.

Distance also favours Kakashi. At 20 metres Kakashi can close him down pretty quick...we seen how he closed down those V2 jins and even Tobi praised his speed.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

How wud Kakashi win? Plz answer, Gaara can just use giant sand waves and at Gaara's sand 's speed Kakashi wud be burried. There is nothing he can do, Gaara fought a Mizukage, Kakashi has little water compared to Gaara's sand. There is NO WAY Kakashi can win, sry.

 

[lswhyte123]

Kakashi wins mid-high difficulty.

Kakashi's knowledge on Gaara is more useful.

Kakashi is the smarter/faster/more versatile character due to his variety of jutsu. Quite frankly, a stiationary fighter like Gaara will have trouble hitting Kakashi. Gaara might have the stamina advantage (although Kakashi's stamina has gotten a better these days)

Raiton bunshins/Raikiri etc may prove deadly

and he always has Kamui if Gaara pushes him all the way...something Gaara can't physically react to.

Distance also favours Kakashi. At 20 metres Kakashi can close him down pretty quick...we seen how he closed down those V2 jins and even Tobi praised his speed.

1: Gaara has never been unable to catch a fast or mobile character. Kimimaro,Deidara,Madara,Lee,Sasuke...Gaara caught them all.
2: Lightning style is weak against Gaara, he's hardly gonna fall for Chidori twice and if Raikage's Guillotine drop didn't do anything to Gaara's sand,I don't think Kakashi will.
3: Kamui is similar to Amaterasu. It hits the target at the focal point,Gaara's sand auto-matically blocked Amaterasu. Same will probably apply to Kamui.
4: Gaara can fight at any distance and is equal to MS Sasuke,at close quarters.
5: Gaara's sand can keep up with Amaterasu & also can form a huge shield in the time in takes for a bomb to explode,under a second. He's fast. Certainly fast enough to block Kamui and go toe to toe with Kakashi close quarters.

Alot of people seem to think that Kakashi is the boss at everything.
If the latest chapters have shown us anything, it's that Gaara has stamina,intellect, a tactical mind which thinks ahead,power and incredible speed.

 

[itachi49]

1: Gaara has never been unable to catch a fast or mobile character. Kimimaro,Deidara,Madara,Lee,Sasuke...Gaara caught them all.

Caught them is something but he never was able to kill anybody you listed.In contrary he got lucky against Kimimaro, Sasuke proved many times that his chidori could perce his sand.Yes he got Deidara but Gaara had Shukaku and the whole village's sand in his side...ZEven with the whole sand he just got an arm from Deidara.

About Gaara ,I'm agree that Gaara was usefull but he had a whole division and a team of kages with Naruto.He missed to caught when Madara dodged it there.

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His sand could get on Madara when onnoki made it lighter ,Madara didn't need to dodge it since he has rinnegan and susanoo.

2: Lightning style is weak against Gaara, he's hardly gonna fall for Chidori twice and if Raikage's Guillotine drop didn't do anything to Gaara's sand,I don't think Kakashi will.

Lighting ins't weak Gaara guilotine drop isn't as penetrating jutsu as raikiri since it's a taijutsu move based on strengh with lighting chakra .Sasuke's A rank chirori managed to penetrate A's lighting armor ,with that same chirori he penetrated Gaara's sand even when he had Shukaku.

3: Kamui is similar to Amaterasu. It hits the target at the focal point,Gaara's sand auto-matically blocked Amaterasu. Same will probably apply to Kamui.

No,Kamui isn't an elemental attack or physical attack ,you can't see it coming ,it's not visible,the target realize it only after getting enveloped by the space time barrier, even Pein and Deidara coulnd't see it comming .Gaara blocked an enton .Sasuke used enton to protect himself, he said it's an enton , if he'd use amaterasu he'd use his left eye .

enton --> right eye
amaterasu --> left eye

amaterasu and enton are the same fire but not the same jutsu and not cast from the same eye.

4: Gaara can fight at any distance and is equal to MS Sasuke,at close quarters.

Kakashi is also an all range fighter,Gaara isn't a close range fighter, he's a midle/long range fighter.Sasuke with susanoo complete,tsukiyomi and amaterasu is above Gaara.

5: Gaara's sand can keep up with Amaterasu & also can form a huge shield in the time in takes for a bomb to explode,under a second. He's fast. Certainly fast enough to block Kamui and go toe to toe with Kakashi close quarters.

Gaara's sand can keep up with an defensive enton cast from sasuke's right eye that isn't as fast as the amaterasu cast from his left eye.

Alot of people seem to think that Kakashi is the boss at everything.
If the latest chapters have shown us anything, it's that Gaara has stamina,intellect, a tactical mind which thinks ahead,power and incredible speed.

Honnestly a lot of people thinks that gaara can defeat all the strognest character only with sand,he has nothing else.Kakashi is more experienced ,smarter and has all the jutsu to defeat Gaara who is too much limited to his sand.

 

[lswhyte123]

Caught them is something but he never was able to kill anybody you listed.In contrary he got lucky against Kimimaro, Sasuke proved many times that his chidori could perce his sand.Yes he got Deidara but Gaara had Shukaku and the whole village's sand in his side...ZEven with the whole sand he just got an arm from Deidara.

About Gaara ,I'm agree that Gaara was usefull but he had a whole division and a team of kages with Naruto.He missed to caught when Madara dodged it there.

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His sand could get on Madara when onnoki made it lighter ,Madara didn't need to dodge it since he has rinnegan and susanoo.



Lighting ins't weak Gaara guilotine drop isn't as penetrating jutsu as raikiri since it's a taijutsu move based on strengh with lighting chakra .Sasuke's A rank chirori managed to penetrate A's lighting armor ,with that same chirori he penetrated Gaara's sand even when he had Shukaku.



No,Kamui isn't an elemental attack or physical attack ,you can't see it coming ,it's not visible,the target realize it only after getting enveloped by the space time barrier, even Pein and Deidara coulnd't see it comming .Gaara blocked an enton .Sasuke used enton to protect himself, he said it's an enton , if he'd use amaterasu he'd use his left eye .

enton --> right eye
amaterasu --> left eye

amaterasu and enton are the same fire but not the same jutsu and not cast from the same eye.



Kakashi is also an all range fighter,Gaara isn't a close range fighter, he's a midle/long range fighter.Sasuke with susanoo complete,tsukiyomi and amaterasu is above Gaara.



Gaara's sand can keep up with an defensive enton cast from sasuke's right eye that isn't as fast as the amaterasu cast from his left eye.



Honnestly a lot of people thinks that gaara can defeat all the strognest character only with sand,he has nothing else.Kakashi is more experienced ,smarter and has all the jutsu to defeat Gaara who is too much limited to his sand.

I am not answering all that. Sorry Bro but I can't be ars*d atm.

NB translated it wrongly. Gaara was defending against Amaterasu. If you have the official manga books then u'd know that.

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from 6:26.

I agree that Gaara's sand caught Madara with Oonoki's help.

Lightning is weak against Wind which is Gaara's element.

Kamui,is offensive and manifests at the focal point of the user. If Gaara's sand reacted to Amaterasu which is instant, it might be able to catch Kamui.

I'm not all that interest in this debate. The Kakashi fans are basically saying that Kakashi can Kamui Gaara and win. Which essentiall is true.
You are also under playing Gaara pretty hard.

But I don't mind what you think,just be sure to use evidence when you say things.

 

[jay2512]

i think it would be a close fight. kakashi winning though. gaara is awesome and has a good arsenal but hes going up against someone with alot of experience in battle. gaara can probably keep up alot better now but in the end kakashi still stands over gaara.

 

[jay2512]

if gaara advanced as much as naruto or sasuke then id definitely say gaara.

 

[itachi49]

I am not answering all that. Sorry Bro but I can't be ars*d atm.

NB translated it wrongly. Gaara was defending against Amaterasu. If you have the official manga books then u'd know that.

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from 6:26.

I agree that Gaara's sand caught Madara with Oonoki's help.

Lightning is weak against Wind which is Gaara's element.

Kamui,is offensive and manifests at the focal point of the user. If Gaara's sand reacted to Amaterasu which is instant, it might be able to catch Kamui.

I'm not all that interest in this debate. The Kakashi fans are basically saying that Kakashi can Kamui Gaara and win. Which essentiall is true.
You are also under playing Gaara pretty hard.

But I don't mind what you think,just be sure to use evidence when you say things.

Anime is canon,so you have to refer to kishi's manga not anime.
I own the manga even french version is translated according to the official manga.
Both says that Sasuke used Enton to protect himself.

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You only bring speculations by saying that lighting is weak against the sand , on the manga page you can see clearly the sasuke penetrated easily the sand even when Gaara had Shukaku.
Furthermore on the manga Raikage's guillotine drop was not only stopped by Gaara's sand but by Sasuke's susanoo was here ton the manga you can see how teh sand is disperssed by Raikage's kick.

 

[lswhyte123]

Anime is canon,so you have to refer to kishi's manga not anime.
I own the manga even french version is translated according to the official manga.
Both says that Sasuke used Enton to protect himself.

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You only bring speculations by saying that lighting is weak against the sand , on the manga page you can see clearly the sasuke penetrated easily the sand even when Gaara had Shukaku.
Furthermore on the manga Raikage's guillotine drop was not only stopped by Gaara's sand but by Sasuke's susanoo was here ton the manga you can see how teh sand is disperssed by Raikage's kick.

Okee, I have the English/American release of the comic and it states quite clearly that Gaara defends against Amaterasu. Tell me what the French one says in French and I can tell for myself.
Gaara is known for defending before attacking.
They mounted their attack against Sasuke in Unison,not before that.
Gaara's sand is being pushed by Sasuke's Flames not the other way around.
If Gaara's attacking Sasuke, how come the flames are all over Gaara's sand?
If Gaara is attacking,then why does it show his sand defending everyone?
If Sasuke is really defending,then why does he say "I see your absolute defence is alive and well"?....

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I know I'm right,I have the official book,I have anime to back me up, and also the image shows that Sasuke is the one attacking,even if the translation is bad.
Check the order of the Elements... Green is wind,Yellow is Lightning

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The Guillotine Drop was stopped by Gaara's sand and Sasuke's flames were stopped from piercing A by Gaara's sand.

Edit: Thank you for the French. It does indeed say what you say. Still though...The anime agrees with me,it's not filler, the American/English version agrees with me and also logic agrees with me.

 

[KazekageDaichi]

Caught them is something but he never was able to kill anybody you listed.In contrary he got lucky against Kimimaro, Sasuke proved many times that his chidori could perce his sand.Yes he got Deidara but Gaara had Shukaku and the whole village's sand in his side...ZEven with the whole sand he just got an arm from Deidara.

About Gaara ,I'm agree that Gaara was usefull but he had a whole division and a team of kages with Naruto.He missed to caught when Madara dodged it there.

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His sand could get on Madara when onnoki made it lighter ,Madara didn't need to dodge it since he has rinnegan and susanoo.



Lighting ins't weak Gaara guilotine drop isn't as penetrating jutsu as raikiri since it's a taijutsu move based on strengh with lighting chakra .Sasuke's A rank chirori managed to penetrate A's lighting armor ,with that same chirori he penetrated Gaara's sand even when he had Shukaku.



No,Kamui isn't an elemental attack or physical attack ,you can't see it coming ,it's not visible,the target realize it only after getting enveloped by the space time barrier, even Pein and Deidara coulnd't see it comming .Gaara blocked an enton .Sasuke used enton to protect himself, he said it's an enton , if he'd use amaterasu he'd use his left eye .

enton --> right eye
amaterasu --> left eye

amaterasu and enton are the same fire but not the same jutsu and not cast from the same eye.



Kakashi is also an all range fighter,Gaara isn't a close range fighter, he's a midle/long range fighter.Sasuke with susanoo complete,tsukiyomi and amaterasu is above Gaara.



Gaara's sand can keep up with an defensive enton cast from sasuke's right eye that isn't as fast as the amaterasu cast from his left eye.



Honnestly a lot of people thinks that gaara can defeat all the strognest character only with sand,he has nothing else.Kakashi is more experienced ,smarter and has all the jutsu to defeat Gaara who is too much limited to his sand.

As long as he has sand he can do anything.Stop underrating Gaara.All what you've done has been basically to say that Gaara is a lucky character. I think people has to start realising Gaara is a beast and stop putting excuses to all their fights,because seriously,it's ridiculous.Kishimoto gave him the longest screen time at the moment after Naruto,and it's not for nothing.

 

[~MC117~]

I have to go with kakashi in this one.

 

[lswhyte123]

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Note that in this image,Darui says I'll go first. Which basically tells us he intends to make the 1st attack on Sasuke.
Which also means,Gaara did not attack him before,which also means Gaara was defending Sasuke Amaterasu.

 

[Tendou00]

Okee, I have the English/American release of the comic and it states quite clearly that Gaara defends against Amaterasu. Tell me what the French one says in French and I can tell for myself.
Gaara is known for defending before attacking.
They mounted their attack against Sasuke in Unison,not before that.
Gaara's sand is being pushed by Sasuke's Flames not the other way around.
If Gaara's attacking Sasuke, how come the flames are all over Gaara's sand?
If Gaara is attacking,then why does it show his sand defending everyone?
If Sasuke is really defending,then why does he say "I see your absolute defence is alive and well"?....

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I know I'm right,I have the official book,I have anime to back me up, and also the image shows that Sasuke is the one attacking,even if the translation is bad.
Check the order of the Elements... Green is wind,Yellow is Lightning

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The Guillotine Drop was stopped by Gaara's sand and Sasuke's flames were stopped from piercing A by Gaara's sand.

Edit: Thank you for the French. It does indeed say what you say. Still though...The anime agrees with me,it's not filler, the American/English version agrees with me and also logic agrees with me.

Sorry mate but it was an Enton and Garra could only use Wind when he was a jinchuricki.

 

[lswhyte123]

Sorry mate but it was an Enton and Garra could only use Wind when he was a jinchuricki.

As I said, I have the actual book which states clearly it was Gaara defending. Additionally,we don't get to see whether it's Enton or not,we just see black flames. The anime shows an extended version of this fight. More of it will come out btw with the new game of Naruto for PS3 & 360.

Look at 6:26

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If it had been Enton,and only enton. Then it wouldn't have just appeared when he was looking.

Additionally,Gaara's Nature is Wind. Which doesn't mean he uses wind techniques. Check Narutopedia for back-up. It isn't perfectly reliable but stands to reason. His sister Temari is also a Wind user. By the same logic,Gaara should no longer be able to control sand for offensive purposes as it was Shukaku that gave him that skill. His mother was only the guiding spirit for the sand shield.

 

[itachi49]

Okee, I have the English/American release of the comic and it states quite clearly that Gaara defends against Amaterasu. Tell me what the French one says in French and I can tell for myself.
Gaara is known for defending before attacking.
They mounted their attack against Sasuke in Unison,not before that.
Gaara's sand is being pushed by Sasuke's Flames not the other way around.
If Gaara's attacking Sasuke, how come the flames are all over Gaara's sand?
If Gaara is attacking,then why does it show his sand defending everyone?
If Sasuke is really defending,then why does he say "I see your absolute defence is alive and well"?....

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I know I'm right,I have the official book,I have anime to back me up, and also the image shows that Sasuke is the one attacking,even if the translation is bad.
Check the order of the Elements... Green is wind,Yellow is Lightning

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The Guillotine Drop was stopped by Gaara's sand and Sasuke's flames were stopped from piercing A by Gaara's sand.

Edit: Thank you for the French. It does indeed say what you say. Still though...The anime agrees with me,it's not filler, the American/English version agrees with me and also logic agrees with me.

The french translation just confirm the official manga,it says that sasuke had to defend himself with an enton.

Gaara prepare his attacks and sand is already there enven before that Sasuke do anything .

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when Sasuke defended himself he aimed Gaara's sand and that enton touched the sand that was going in sasuke's direction .Gaara's absolute defense is the sand that was going to hit Sasuke and was still active despite the power of these black flame .Gaara took the precaution to put sand in front of Kankouro and Temari to prevent an eventual attack from Sasuke.

on that page you can see the sand stopped by enton .

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explain me how Sasuke can attack Gaara if he had to defend himself since Gaara's sand coming on him ,sasuke said "i had to guard myself with an enton" in official manga .


By the way your argument to find excuse by saying that it's wrong translation isn't valaible.

Yea Wind >Lighting . List me a jutsu that Gaara used without Shukaku.

Also Lighting > Sand
Suiton > Sand

The anime is made by studiot pierrot so it's not a valaible ,you have to use manga since the anime contradict the manga in this case.It's not a wrong translation.

Well it doesn't worth to continu we both have different vision.

 

[PainIsGod]

Gaara...The only argument for how Kakashi could win is Kamui, and even if Gaara a stationary fighter, I doubt he would just stand there and let himself get suck into Kakashi jutsu.Furthermore, I have yet to see Kamui take down anything that wasn't moving in a straight line.Take into account Gaara's a wind type with Kakashi's go to attack being a lighting jutsu,Gaara's massive chakra advantage over Kakashi,and Gaara's ultimate defense, which was fast enough to block amaterasu, I say Gaara with Mid-High difficulty.



Sidenote:Also, when has Kakishi ever have to avoid attacks while using Kamui?The only time I can think of his when Nagato threw that nail, and it was again, in a straight line. Kamui isn't instantaneous, if you are fighting someone of the kage level, they aren't going to wait around for your jutsu to activate.

Um did you forget the rocket flying at choji during the pain fight? it was nowhere near kakashi and he still got it and saved choji not just the nail.

 

[Better]

guys the only hope for kakashi is kamui, and again he can't use it if Gaara has sand bullets and his sand attacking him