The power of the Senju Clan explained (Third Hokage prime explained throroughly)

[iSpeak]

I really have no solid evidence that the Sannin are in fact descendants of the senju but its strongly hinted that this will of fire they strongly inherited may actually be the rikodous will. If they strongly inherited the will then they strongly inherited other things such as tremendous physical stamina and bodies. Each sannin also posses high chakra taxing abilities and physically powerful jutsus that are beyond that of average ninja however none of them have bloodlines or do we think?

The only ninjas who overpower the sannin smash mouth style not from Konoha naturally would be the raikages.

Will of fire is just a belief/way of living, most of Konoha follow it. It would have been mentioned by no if either or both of them were Senju. They were probably just born with a lot of chakra, like Kisame.

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"Yin and yang are opposite in nature, but they are part of nature, they rely on each other,"

They don't mean Nature as in "tress and environment", the mean nature as in the qualities and identity of something. Which is why they talk about male/female and passive and active etc.
There are many Yin techs (such as Choji's multi size tech) which have nothing to do with Nature and there are Yang techs (such as medical ninjutsu) which have nothing to do with Nature.

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

Will of fire is just a belief/way of living, most of Konoha follow it. It would have been mentioned by no if either or both of them were Senju. They were probably just born with a lot of chakra, like Kisame.



They don't mean Nature as in "tress and environment", the mean nature as in the qualities and identity of something. Which is why they talk about male/female and passive and active etc.
There are many Yin techs (such as Choji's multi size tech) which have nothing to do with Nature and there are Yang techs (such as medical ninjutsu) which have nothing to do with Nature.

Another definition of Nature

the universe, with all its phenomena.


Nature is life. It's why we have human nature or why we say when a snake bites you when you put your hand in its mouth its in its nature.

Yin and Yang are apart of that nature. One representing good one representing evil. You can't have one without the other. Yin and yang apply to nature.

Nature isn't only about a garden, birds chirping or plant life. It's life in general. Plants are simply used as a representation of nature because they represent life in its puriest form.


One last definition from dictionary.com
Nature
the whole system of the existence, arrangement, forces, and events of all physical life that are not controlled by man


Part of my theory is that the senju inherited nature like powers from the rikodou sennin but you could literally say they inherited more life which would explain why the Uzamakis lived so long.


Nature is just another word for life. It has a very broad definition.

 

[CherryBlossom Genjutsu]

dude... none of this is news. way to basically retell the whole manga in your own words....

well apparently this thread was needed for some people as you can see many people responded and found this tidbit as news to them. #dumbasses :drunk:

 

[iSpeak]

Another definition of Nature

the universe, with all its phenomena.


Nature is life. It's why we have human nature or why we say when a snake bites you when you put your hand in its mouth its in its nature.

Yin and Yang are apart of that nature. One representing good one representing evil. You can't have one without the other. Yin and yang apply to nature.

Nature isn't only about a garden, birds chirping or plant life. It's life in general. Plants are simply used as a representation of nature because they represent life in its puriest form.


One last definition from dictionary.com
Nature
the whole system of the existence, arrangement, forces, and events of all physical life that are not controlled by man


Part of my theory is that the senju inherited nature like powers from the rikodou sennin but you could literally say they inherited more life which would explain why the Uzamakis lived so long.


Nature is just another word for life. It has a very broad definition.

Yeh, that is what I was trying to say. If you meant that before then my bad, the way you was talking about Hashirama/Yamato and when you said "their power is Nature related" I thought that is what you meant.

 

[Easyfathom]

OMG!! Loved the bit about the "Pure" Kyuubi D Thought it was en-genius

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

Now you are just wrong, both physical energy and spiritual energy are required to make chakra. If you lack one or the other, you wont have much chakra. you dont have Spiritual Chakra and Physical Chakra, rather, they are different kind of energies that need to be combined in order to make Chakra. You need to keep them in balance; that means that if you are lacking one, the other by itself will not be enough to produce a large amount of chakra, nor a little amount of powerful chakra. Sage techniques just add Nature's energy to the molding process.

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And i know that Naruto has a very large amount of chakra of his own, but we will never now just how much, because he has the Kyuubi. Besides, what makes you think that Sasuke (just an example) could not supress the Kyuubi's chakra too? I mean, he succesfully supressed Orochimaru, and according to you, he was related to the Senju.

Not to beat you down but its because of the Uchiha's powerful chakra that they can use the sharingan without fating the second they activate it.

This is what they meant by their "unparellel chakra."

Kakashi has to have his 1 sharingan covered up in order to conserve his chakra.

Since the uchiha have such powerful spiritual energy they feel nothing when they activate their sharingan.

It's also the reason why Kakashi gets winded after using his MS once or twice.

what makes the Uchiha so powerful....is their ability to use their powerful eyes and still be able to use formidabble jutsu.

Senju were the 50 Calibur Machine guns
Uchiha were the 50 calibur sniper guns with inf ere red scopes on it.

The other clans were pocket knives.

 

[JWSoul]

Fantastic post really is. Wow

It really kind of nails a lot of things down. To the people saying its to long to read get a grip lol!

 

[x9lb babynaruto]

i hate to be that guy but you have WAYYYY too much time on your hands

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

How long did it take you to do that?

9 hours. lol mostly editing and its still not done.

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

i hate to be that guy but you have WAYYYY too much time on your hands

Not really today was an exception.

 

[Ryuu..]

Nice thread dude, +rep.

 

[jet07]

Good GOD this is a long post

 

[tracytracy22]

I think orochimaru would probably be skilled at genjutsu - he does have a 5 in genjutsu in the databooks. As for him being defeated by it, he did immediately recognise he was caught in an illusion the first time he fought itachi, and attempted to break out of it but was too slow.

Toka senju was also well known for her skills in genjutsu.

 

[Animeisalive]

this is the second time ive seen someone say the 3rd hokage was a part of the senju....can someone show or tell me where it says that in the manga? because i have never seen that before

 

[spatha]

You are just making that up. Look at my second link, Uchiha had gretest chakra, sage's eyes and spiritual energy. Senju had the sage's body, life force, and physical energy.

This could mean that the Senju were really strong, like Tsunade for example (which is a Senju), and that they lived very long, healthy lives thanks to their life force.

its not wrong, its common sense. the uchiha gained potent chakra that could use the strongest of techniques(the sages eye techs) but in narutoverse, immense physical stamina=immense chakra pool. Think of it in a simple way, naruto could spam thousands and thousands of clones at this point, no sage mode, no kyuubi just him. Even with the powerups sasuke recieved, im willing to bet that he could only spam maybe 1000 clones give or take before he keels over. I always liked to think of it as rocky 3...mr. t (uchiha) could throw instakill haymakers, but if he missed it wasted alot of his energy because he still had to fight. However, rocky (senju/uzumaki) had massive amounts of stamina, no he couldnt rip your heart out with one punch (jutsu) but he could take the hits and deal out the upper mid damage that sasuke could never dream of doing.

 

[Zaiigoukyou]

Nice thread dude, +rep.

Thanks.

this is the second time ive seen someone say the 3rd hokage was a part of the senju....can someone show or tell me where it says that in the manga? because i have never seen that before

It's assumed. I provided more then enough evidence to determine the fight style of the Third Hokage when he was younger which was smash mouth just like Tsunade (Senju), first Hokage (Senju), Naruto (Uzamaki),

The only reason why Tsunade remains strong is because she is a medical jutsu and her youth trick.

However...the third Hokage lost his unfathomly chakra. Even at old age he was still a formidable opponent.

No other ninja outside of Konoha and the raikages had that kind of power naturally.

 

[MilwaukeegHost]

Senju....

...I love to talk about them, because their past is such a mystery. I want to know all of your opinions... WHERE THE HELL IS THE DIRECT DECENDENTS OF THE SENJU? I have my own hypothesis about this... but I want to know everyone else's opinion on the matter. How does the uchiha, an "inferior" (FANBOYS please forgive my wording--but the manga clearly outlines the Senju as being superior of the two at the founding of Konoha) but equally famous Clan keep its decendents in line and in visible existance (up until Itachi's Slaughter of course) but the "Senju" name just dissappear into the wind? I was HIGHLY DISAPPOINTED when I found out that the ROOT was not the Senju... this was suppose to be the most powerful family clan people... why don't they have immediately recognizable decendents with the Senju name, like uchihas and other familys have? Were they also annialated (forgive spelling) like the Uchiha and Uzamaki clans? WTF?

-gHost Senju

 

[home]

agreed

 

[The Work]

Holy s**t....

Senju = Physical Power and Sage Body
Uchiha = Sage Mentality and Sage's Eyes

Thats how i put it xD

 

[Genduko]

My theory is that orochimaru knew about the evolution of the sharingan and that eventually after progressing through MS EMS it would reach the rinnegan.
now ororchimaru wanted 2 tings to learn and master every jutsu in the world and learn the secret to immortality
now just having the sahringan wont let you learn every justu because Orochimaru doesn't have all 5 chackra natures.
He knew the sharingan would eventually became the rinegan which in turn would give him access to all 5 chakcra natures + ying and yang chackra which in turn would allow him to learn and master every jutsu in the world and thus discover the secret to true immortality instead of swapping body's.

He needed and actual uchia body that can use the sharingan with no real cost as opposed to kakashi who looses great amounts of chackra using the sharingan as he isnt and uchia .