something about IZANAGI

[jorgelius]

something about IZANAGI SPOILER

SPOILER theory form but spoilers

first time izanagi was used

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itachi trigged amaterasu go off when sasuke's eye meets tobi's sharingan.. and while tobi burns using izanagi, fire disappear (most didn't get that) later is shown and stated u need senju and uchiha gene to use it.

furthermore in danzo case is shown that someone without original senju or uchiha blood could use it and again leave possibility that tobi might be anyone not related to uchiha or whatever

amaterasu it is seen to be able penetrate everything and kill summons, beast ppl and is fuuin too, in sense it make edo zombies go away. and tobi used izanagi while amaterasu burn him, we can create hypothesis izanagi is able counter fuuinjutsus as well, even strong one's like one that trapped kurama.

kabutomaru did something to nagato, to evolve beyond normal rinnegan, maybe something to do with genes of senju and uchiha

my theory is that uchiha madara used izanagi to "create" tobi, it surdanly explain that no-one statement and zetsu too, why tobi know madara history and is empty shell of his former strenght. therefore i think tobi used izanagi to create zetsu, who too have gene of first and original madara,

why zetsu eint able to use izanagi? he don't have eyes

what we may have in future, even madara have strongest eyes at the moment one in pure world can't use any tech to himself, even madara is completely in kabuto's controll but what kotoamatsukami did to itachi, maybe tobi can cast izanagi to reverse holding what kabuto have over edo madara to himself or set it free, i don't know how loyal tobi is to madara even tough he zetsu is extremely loyal to tobi.

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[boshans]

tobi did NOT use izanagi to get rid of the amaterasu flames that itachi's eyes hit him with.

 

[Ambriel]

U have to be a uchiha to use izanagi, or have a sharingan

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

first time izanagi was used

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itachi trigged amaterasu go off when sasuke's eye meets tobi's sharingan.. and while tobi burns using izanagi, fire disappear (most didn't get that) later is shown and stated u need senju and uchiha gene to use it.

furthermore in danzo case is shown that someone without original senju or uchiha blood could use it and again leave possibility that tobi might be anyone not related to uchiha or whatever

amaterasu it is seen to be able penetrate everything and kill summons, beast ppl and is fuuin too, in sense it make edo zombies go away. and tobi used izanagi while amaterasu burn him, we can create hypothesis izanagi is able counter fuuinjutsus as well, even strong one's like one that trapped kurama.

kabutomaru did something to nagato, to evolve beyond normal rinnegan, maybe something to do with genes of senju and uchiha

my theory is that uchiha madara used izanagi to "create" tobi, it surdanly explain that no-one statement and zetsu too, why tobi know madara history and is empty shell of his former strenght. therefore i think tobi used izanagi to create zetsu, who too have gene of first and original madara,

why zetsu eint able to use izanagi? he don't have eyes

what we may have in future, even madara have strongest eyes at the moment one in pure world can't use any tech to himself, even madara is completely in kabuto's controll but what kotoamatsukami did to itachi, maybe tobi can cast izanagi to reverse holding what kabuto have over edo madara to himself or set it free, i don't know how loyal tobi is to madara even tough he zetsu is extremely loyal to tobi.

if u have something to add, something to say please do =)

i beleive the same thing and i agree with it i beleive before edo madara died he created tobi and zetsu to foolow a plan and revive him later thru his rinnegan he gave to tobi and tobi gave to nagato. but nagato betrayed and tobi had to do things the hard way

 

[PandaMan.]

Tobi has s/t ninjutsu.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

tobi did NOT use izanagi to get rid of the amaterasu flames that itachi's eyes hit him with.

so explain how he didnt die. cuz after tobi said if i hadnt kept secrets from iatchi i would of been dead by now. how esle could u survive a direct hit of amatersu. it didnt phase thru his body either. and tobi mask was off in the dark so he could use the other eye. think back to konan most of his masked was off. the secret he kept from itachi was that he could use izanagi.

 

[boshans]

and tobi couldn't have used izanagi to create zetsu since izanagi is a technique you can only use on yourself. you can't create a person with izanagi, only with creation of all things.

 

[jorgelius]

tobi did NOT use izanagi to get rid of the amaterasu flames that itachi's eyes hit him with.

he sure did, amaterasu can't be put of otherwise read the link and couple page ahead, it clearly leave people without no idea how he did get rid of flame's later againts konan its explained or least shown. if not what is ur theory?

 

[boshans]

so explain how he didnt die. cuz after tobi said if i hadnt kept secrets from iatchi i would of been dead by now. how esle could u survive a direct hit of amatersu. it didnt phase thru his body either

HIS EYE DIDN"T CLOSE, he didn't use it then! He used it during the fight with konan, and he still had two eyes then, and one closed. He didn't use it when itachi's eye hit him. Sasuke and Itachi can put out the flames of Amaterasu, why can't tobi? And maybe he did phase through it, he went out of frame, you don't know if he did or not.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

and tobi couldn't have used izanagi to create zetsu since izanagi is a technique you can only use on yourself. you can't create a person with izanagi, only with creation of all things.

he said madara created zetsu with izanagi and when the rinnegan uses izanagi the eye doesnt lose it light. the sage created the nine tail beast using izanagi. and his eyes are still around

 

[jorgelius]

U have to be a uchiha to use izanagi, or have a sharingan

u don't have to be uchiha or danzo was??? but yes i said it too u have to have eyes to cast it

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

HIS EYE DIDN"T CLOSE, he didn't use it then! He used it during the fight with konan, and he still had two eyes then, and one closed. He didn't use it when itachi's eye hit him. Sasuke and Itachi can put out the flames of Amaterasu, why can't tobi? And maybe he did phase through it, he went out of frame, you don't know if he did or not.

excality he went out of frame and his mask was off. also when he got konan he spoke about the use of izanagi to her and told her danzou boosted a fake/imporper izanagi . and he didnt phase thru it was on his body check it again. after he comes out untouched like nothing happened and put his mask back on. and thought to himself he kept sercets from itachi if he hadnt he would have died (izaanagi being that secret) hes been planning shit for a while now since naruto was a baby he had the technique. also orochimaru and kabuto have been doing research for years about the sharingan/rinnegan and its godly techniques if i recall it was orochiamru who helped danzou get izanagi. read the manga again and connect the dots DUMBASS

 

[boshans]

he said madara created zetsu with izanagi and when the rinnegan uses izanagi the eye doesnt lose it light. the sage created the nine tail beast using izanagi. and his eyes are still around

No he didn't, he said "therefore i think tobi used izanagi to create zetsu". and the sage DIDNT USE IZANAGI TO CREATE THE TAILED BEASTS. he used creation of all things, ITS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. izanagi is BASED OFF OF creation of all things, and is a lesser technique. you CANNOT create things with izanagi, you can only use it on yourself. it lets you make an attack that hit you turn into a "dream" basically, and you don't get hit/die. just like what danzo did.

 

[jorgelius]

we don't even know if tobi is human. zetsu was some sort of plant.. i said most likely madara created tobi and tobi created zetsu.. but im out of time i could prove u tobi didnt lose eyesight even tough he said it was only way to use it. he also said he perfected it.. and stated danzo version imperfect. im out of time school time in finland. sry my bad eng

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

No he didn't, he said "therefore i think tobi used izanagi to create zetsu". and the sage DIDNT USE IZANAGI TO CREATE THE TAILED BEASTS. he used creation of all things, ITS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. izanagi is BASED OFF OF creation of all things, and is a lesser technique. you CANNOT create things with izanagi, you can only use it on yourself. it lets you make an attack that hit you turn into a "dream" basically, and you don't get hit/die. just like what danzo did.

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read this and shut up!

what danzou was using was a incomplete form of izanagi which made him seem dream like. that is a incomplete form of izanagi. the links i have provided show you the true intentions of that jutsu DUMBASS!

 

[boshans]

yes madara might have created tobi with CREATION OF ALL THINGS, NOT izanagi. therefore tobi could not have created zetsu with izanagi either. he didn't say he perfected it, he just said danzo couldn't control it as good, the point of that was him saying he couldn't control how long the technique stayed active, but tobi could control that. danzo's only lasted 60 seconds, if we do some math, when konan trapped tobi in the millions of paper bombs, she said that lasted 10 minutes. she also said tobi can only phase out for 5 minutes, so therefore tobi's izanagi can last 5 minutes. that's what he meant he had more control over it, it lasted longer. his eye DID close after that fight with konan.

again, YOU CANNOT CREATE THINGS WITH IZANAGI.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

yes madara might have created tobi with CREATION OF ALL THINGS, NOT izanagi. therefore tobi could not have created zetsu with izanagi either. he didn't say he perfected it, he just said danzo couldn't control it as good, the point of that was him saying he couldn't control how long the technique stayed active, but tobi could control that. danzo's only lasted 60 seconds, if we do some math, when konan trapped tobi in the millions of paper bombs, she said that lasted 10 minutes. she also said tobi can only phase out for 5 minutes, so therefore tobi's izanagi can last 5 minutes. that's what he meant he had more control over it, it lasted longer. his eye DID close after that fight with konan.

again, YOU CANNOT CREATE THINGS WITH IZANAGI.

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read the links and shut up

the sage created the nine beasts from the juubi charka with izanagi. it says it right there. izanagi the power to turn imagination to reality. that means "create" also it means it can be used like how danzou used it. but the sage used izanagi to create the bijuu

 

[boshans]

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read this and shut up!

what danzou was using was a incomplete form of izanagi which made him seem dream like. that is a incomplete form of izanagi

Whatever, everyone on here knows this. Go look up when they are talking about how the tailed beasts were made, not in that part but another one. There is a technique called creation of all things. That's how the sage made the beasts. not izanagi. and it is clearly said somewhere also that izanagi is only used on yourself, you cannot make things from it.

 

[boshans]

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you read. i'm right. wrong translation in those that you linked then. people aren't just making this up. it was creation of all things that he used.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

Whatever, everyone on here knows this. Go look up when they are talking about how the tailed beasts were made, not in that part but another one. There is a technique called creation of all things. That's how the sage made the beasts. not izanagi. and it is clearly said somewhere also that izanagi is only used on yourself, you cannot make things from it.

you read the links and still are talking hahahaha your in denial this is what the manga is saying and you read it but becuase you were proved wrong .. i guess you just got to much pride its fine. it says in plain text the sage used izanagi to create the bijuu and you read but still stuck in ur ignorant/denial ways. your pathetic hahahha well thats it for me i showed you my part.