Sasuke's Arsenal

[Retsu]

He's never gonna dodge it if he dosent know its comming, he isnt going to sense it if it dosent exist until its burning him.

But he'll know it's coming, he's a sensor type, not only that but he has two different ways of sensing attacks, sage mode's biggest asset is it's ability to recognize threats, due to it's chakra sensing, Naruto could be blind, but if he's in sage mode he'll know Amaterasu is coming.

And A dodged it, that means it doesn't just poof and appear in one spot, I don't know why ppl assume Amaterasu is like FTG, it takes time to travel through space, and that'll be enough for Naruto to dodge it. If it did work like you all claimed, A would be Long dead, but he dodged it, which means that naruto, who has better insight and speed can also do it, easier infact.

 

[Ninpou]

it says directly in the manga that he sense evil intentions just like with kisame

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He was still hit, if anything he should sense this more cause its comming from another tailed beast.

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

Not true, Nagato was able to recognize the chakra pressure of Amaterasu, and SM Naruto is probably the best sensor in manga.


Nagato proves you wrong.

.... if the ninja is like nagato can distinguish the amaterasu pressure in the atmosphere , then yes um wrong : unfortunately : naruto can't !
Naruto SM can sense it BUT can't dodge it !
naruto BM can dodge it but can't sense it ! : and the clone thing : it doesn't have time to alert him about the attack
the ONLY solution is to mix SM & BM witch is not available unfortunately

 

[narutorikudoumode]

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He was still hit, if anything he should sense this more cause its comming from another tailed beast.

what does being hit have to do with sensing? i'm done arguing i hope we will have more of these debate in the futureU_U

 

[Turson]

.... if the ninja is like nagato can distinguish the amaterasu pressure in the atmosphere , then yes um wrong : unfortunately : naruto can't !

Of course he can.

Naruto SM can sense it BUT can't dodge it !
naruto BM can dodge it but can't sense it ! : and the clone thing : it doesn't have time to alert him about the attack

BM Naruto can use SM clone as back up, that will warn him of danger. As simple as that. Naruto doesnt have to mix BM and SM. Besides...

the ONLY solution is to mix SM & BM witch is not available unfortunately

For now, that is. Naruto already combined SM and KM when he met Nagato.

 

[narutorikudoumode]

.... if the ninja is like nagato can distinguish the amaterasu pressure in the atmosphere , then yes um wrong : unfortunately : naruto can't !
Naruto SM can sense it BUT can't dodge it !
naruto BM can dodge it but can't sense it ! : and the clone thing : it doesn't have time to alert him about the attack
the ONLY solution is to mix SM & BM witch is not available unfortunately

no available yet

 

[Retsu]

.... if the ninja is like nagato can distinguish the amaterasu pressure in the atmosphere , then yes um wrong : unfortunately : naruto can't !
Naruto SM can sense it BUT can't dodge it !
naruto BM can dodge it but can't sense it ! : and the clone thing : it doesn't have time to alert him about the attack
the ONLY solution is to mix SM & BM witch is not available unfortunately

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[Itachi Uchiwa]

Of course he can. Prove? .. situation from manga ?

BM Naruto can use SM clone as back up, that will warn him of danger (the time he'll speak the amaterasu would have been fromed in BM naruto's face) . As simple as that. Naruto doesnt have to mix BM and SM. Besides...

For now, that is. Naruto already combined SM and KM when he met Nagato (sry don't get it ..?).

In bold ^^^

 

[Turson]

Prove? .. situation from manga ?

I already explained that.

(the time he'll speak the amaterasu would have been fromed in BM naruto's face)

It takes a couple of seconds to gather enough chakra to use Amaterasu. Thats more than enough to speak. Besides, clone doesnt even have to speak, he can just dispell himself and original Naruto will know right away what is going on.

 

[KrossxXtheSageXx]

Sasuke already better than naruto

sasuke is no way near naruto but he's gonna get a power up

 

[FitzLT]

Many of you people just didn't want to admit the idea that sasuke WILL surpass his ancestors , and Naruto as well
proof :
Sasuke's available weapons :
a) Susanoo :
1- Amaterasu's sword

2- Amaterasu's yasaka no magatama

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3 - susanoo's defence :
it's Absolutly Much stronger that madara's :
check out Madara's susanoo that gaara defeated :

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now tak a look on Sasuke's :

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differences : the Sasuke's Susanoo is the Ultimate version : it has that cloak around it !
Madara's ; it doesn't.
Sasuke's Susanoo has the same cloak ; and Absolutly NO ONE could break through this Ultimate version, and no Witnesses about the possibility to break it :
The Weak points Of susanoo are covered ! the back is Shielded
the only weak point of the Ultimate susanoo is IF the ground on wich the user stands is controlable by the opponent !
so we can come to Conclusion : Ultimate susanoo > Final version Susanoo
thus : Itachi & sasuke's susanoos > Madara' s

b) amaterasu :
as we can See : sasuke now can Use the Amaterasu's Black flames WITHOUT a bleeding Eye :

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so the contributing factor that helped A to avoid the Amaterasu (the bleeding eye ) is no more ! thus, the Amaterasu that forms in the exact focused spot of the user's eye ; is some sort of the deadliest weapon in Sasuke' s arsenal. (If he can Use it with NO bleeding eye)

c) Genjutsu :
even though we still know nth about Sasuke's genjutsu ! still we can have a conjecture : All of the other abilities are improved so we can guess the genjutsu has improved as well ; but we still have no limits for it .

Conclusion : Sasuke ; as an Uchiha who has EMS, actually surpassed the ancestors and maybe is kind of near to Itachi's level : We all know itachi is the one who improoved the most the Sharingan and The MS use, so even if sasuke got stronger than itachi : it's fair to consider that Itachi could 've been the Absolute Caracter if he only didn't HAVE to Die !

I understand you are a Sasuke fan--but let's not jump to conclusions. Sasuke has not YET surpassed the real Uchiha Madara. We have only seen a glimpse of Madara's true power. The Rinnegan is the next evolution from the Sharingan. Until Sasuke evolves his EMS to the Rinnegan, he is still behind Madara. I believe he WILL--but we have not seen it yet.

Amaterasu did not miss Raikage because of Sasuke's eye bleeding--it missed because Raikage moves too fast for it to keep up with him.

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As far as surpassing Naruto--he still has a long ways to go before achieving that feat.

I have been telling u people that sasuke will be the strongest uchiha and naruto the strongest uzumaki/senju .........
Sasuke Uchiha is my favourite and main character BELIEVE IT


I AM A FANBOY OF SASUKE AND ITACHI ALSO MADARA

I DO agree that Sasuke will most probably become the strongest Uchiha ever--that is the way the story has been set up from the beginning.

That was not Madara's complete Susanoo U_U Just wait until you see Madara's complete Susanoo. Until Sasuke get's the Rinnegan and Mokuton he aint surpassing sh*t.​

Agreed.

Now he IS !!


well Maybe !! we don't know what Kishi will give to naruto ! but right now ; It's CLEAR that Sasuke > Naruto


I think Itachi is most worthy of this Title : if he ever had the Chance : He would be THE Untegible member in Uchiha clan 's History : No one would Have the Might to Touch him

There is NO WAY that Sasuke is stronger than naruto right now.

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Naruto is fast enough AND strong enough to simultaneously: 1) deflect 5 TBB, 2) knock back 5 charging Bijuu and 3) hold 5 Bijuu in place while his clones go after the stakes in their bodies.

**Note: For anyone who didn't catch the implications of point #3--remember this. The Shadow Clone jutsu divides the caster's chakra/stamina evenly between themself and their clone(s). For every single shadow clone Naruto makes--his chakra/stamina level is divided in half. Two Naruto's(one clone and one original)=one-half chakra/stamina each. Four Naruto's(one original and three clones)=one-fourth chakra/stamina each.

Dodging the Amaterasu frisbees will be nothing for Naruto's new speed. Plus, there is no evidence to suggest that Sasuke's Susanoo would be strong enough to withstand a TBB--especially one from the nine tails alone. Now Naruto has the combined power of seven of the 9 Tailed Beasts. Sasuke would HAVE to have the Rinnegan in order to fight against that level of speed and power.

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Again, I have no doubt that somehow Sasuke will get there--but he's not there yet(according to what little has been shown so far).

 

[Xerotes]

I really doubt Sasuke is gonna do shit against Naruto right now, and I wouldn't doubt it if Narutos BM mode with the fox around him is like Susanoo and defends, we already know his cloak does.

Until the fight with Itachi happens, which is obviously is going to, though they could talk no jutsu instead ya never know, and Sasuke shows off some more of his new moves, cause I doubt Amatersau frisbies is the only upgrade he got, Naruto shits on Sasuke.

Also there's the thing that Orochimaru had that'll be given to Sasuke that's still unknown

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

I already explained that.

It takes a couple of seconds to gather enough chakra to use Amaterasu. Thats more than enough to speak. Besides, clone doesnt even have to speak, he can just dispell himself and original Naruto will know right away what is going on.

1- nope you didn't you said BM can't but SM wich we are questionning its use right now !

2- i just remembered smth : the 3tomoes sharingan has the ability to detect movements regardless of their speed ! it wont be hard to detect naruto'
s movements before forming amaterasu on his skin ! ( K.O. ? xd ? )

 

[Retsu]

I understand you are a Sasuke fan--but let's not jump to conclusions. Sasuke has not YET surpassed the real Uchiha Madara. We have only seen a glimpse of Madara's true power. The Rinnegan is the next evolution from the Sharingan. Until Sasuke evolves his EMS to the Rinnegan, he is still behind Madara. I believe he WILL--but we have not seen it yet.

Amaterasu did not miss Raikage because of Sasuke's eye bleeding--it missed because Raikage moves to fast for it to keep up with him.

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As far as surpassing Naruto--he still has a long ways to go before achieving that feat.



I DO agree that Sasuke will most probably become the strongest Uchiha ever--that is the way the story has been set up from the beginning.



Agreed.



There is NO WAY that Sasuke is stronger than naruto right now.

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Naruto is fast enough AND strong enough to simultaneously: 1) deflect 5 TBB, 2) knock back 5 charging Bijuu and 3) hold 5 Bijuu in place while his clones go after the stakes in their bodies.

Dodging the Amaterasu frisbees will be nothing for Naruto's new speed. Plus, there is no evidence to suggest that Sasuke's Susanoo would be strong enough to withstand a TBB--especially one from the nine tails alone. Now Naruto has the combined power of seven of the 9 Tailed Beasts. Sasuke would HAVE to have the Rinnegan in order to fight against that level of speed and power.

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Again, I have no doubt that somehow Sasuke will get there--but he's not there yet(according to what little has been shown so far).

Luved this little gem, + rep

 

[izinagi54]

Haha right now we saw Sasuke flinging frisbees...I'm sure Naruto will be fine against him

lets see frisbees vs one big bijuu dama

 

[dondor]

I understand you are a Sasuke fan--but let's not jump to conclusions. Sasuke has not YET surpassed the real Uchiha Madara. We have only seen a glimpse of Madara's true power. The Rinnegan is the next evolution from the Sharingan. Until Sasuke evolves his EMS to the Rinnegan, he is still behind Madara. I believe he WILL--but we have not seen it yet.

Amaterasu did not miss Raikage because of Sasuke's eye bleeding--it missed because Raikage moves to fast for it to keep up with him.

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As far as surpassing Naruto--he still has a long ways to go before achieving that feat.



I DO agree that Sasuke will most probably become the strongest Uchiha ever--that is the way the story has been set up from the beginning.



Agreed.



There is NO WAY that Sasuke is stronger than naruto right now.

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Naruto is fast enough AND strong enough to simultaneously: 1) deflect 5 TBB, 2) knock back 5 charging Bijuu and 3) hold 5 Bijuu in place while his clones go after the stakes in their bodies.

Dodging the Amaterasu frisbees will be nothing for Naruto's new speed. Plus, there is no evidence to suggest that Sasuke's Susanoo would be strong enough to withstand a TBB--especially one from the nine tails alone. Now Naruto has the combined power of seven of the 9 Tailed Beasts. Sasuke would HAVE to have the Rinnegan in order to fight against that level of speed and power.

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Again, I have no doubt that somehow Sasuke will get there--but he's not there yet(according to what little has been shown so far).

Agreed

 

[Jimmy123]

I understand you are a Sasuke fan--but let's not jump to conclusions. Sasuke has not YET surpassed the real Uchiha Madara. We have only seen a glimpse of Madara's true power. The Rinnegan is the next evolution from the Sharingan. Until Sasuke evolves his EMS to the Rinnegan, he is still behind Madara. I believe he WILL--but we have not seen it yet.

Amaterasu did not miss Raikage because of Sasuke's eye bleeding--it missed because Raikage moves to fast for it to keep up with him.

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As far as surpassing Naruto--he still has a long ways to go before achieving that feat.



I DO agree that Sasuke will most probably become the strongest Uchiha ever--that is the way the story has been set up from the beginning.



Agreed.



There is NO WAY that Sasuke is stronger than naruto right now.

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Naruto is fast enough AND strong enough to simultaneously: 1) deflect 5 TBB, 2) knock back 5 charging Bijuu and 3) hold 5 Bijuu in place while his clones go after the stakes in their bodies.

Dodging the Amaterasu frisbees will be nothing for Naruto's new speed. Plus, there is no evidence to suggest that Sasuke's Susanoo would be strong enough to withstand a TBB--especially one from the nine tails alone. Now Naruto has the combined power of seven of the 9 Tailed Beasts. Sasuke would HAVE to have the Rinnegan in order to fight against that level of speed and power.

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Again, I have no doubt that somehow Sasuke will get there--but he's not there yet(according to what little has been shown so far).

i agree with u man :izuna:

 

[Turson]

2- i just remembered smth : the 3tomoes sharingan has the ability to detect movements regardless of their speed ! it wont be hard to detect naruto'

You seriously need to re-read the manga. Sasuke wasnt able to track A with his Sharingan, he was just too fast.

 

[izinagi54]

1- nope you didn't you said BM can't but SM wich we are questionning its use right now !

2- i just remembered smth : the 3tomoes sharingan has the ability to detect movements regardless of their speed ! it wont be hard to detect naruto'
s movements before forming amaterasu on his skin ! ( K.O. ? xd ? )

yeah you have to factor in the ability for sasuke to keep up to can't hit at you can't see

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

I understand you are a Sasuke fan (no, Itachi fan but i want to prove sasuke > naruto in terms of power)--but let's not jump to conclusions. Sasuke has not YET surpassed the real Uchiha Madara. We have only seen a glimpse of Madara's true power. The Rinnegan is the next evolution from the Sharingan. Until Sasuke evolves his EMS to the Rinnegan, he is still behind Madara. I believe he WILL--but we have not seen it yet.(already agreed about that)

Amaterasu did not miss Raikage because of Sasuke's eye bleeding--it missed because Raikage moves to fast for it to keep up with him.(debating about that right now : there is no other reasons for raikage to deflect the flames in the exact time except because he saw the blood)

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As far as surpassing Naruto--he still has a long ways to go before achieving that feat.



I DO agree that Sasuke will most probably become the strongest Uchiha ever--that is the way the story has been set up from the beginning.



Agreed.



There is NO WAY that Sasuke is stronger than naruto right now.

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Naruto is fast enough AND strong enough to simultaneously: 1) deflect 5 TBB, 2) knock back 5 charging Bijuu and 3) hold 5 Bijuu in place while his clones go after the stakes in their bodies. ( remember : Sharingan can detect movements regardless of their speed : left eye focus on amaterasu formin' the other focus about naruto's movements )

Dodging the Amaterasu frisbees will be nothing for Naruto's new speed.(agree : but um talking about Normal amaterasu ) Plus, there is no evidence to suggest that Sasuke's Susanoo would be strong enough to withstand a TBB--especially one from the nine tails alone. Now Naruto has the combined power of seven of the 9 Tailed Beasts. Sasuke would HAVE to have the Rinnegan in order to fight against that level of speed and power.

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Again, I have no doubt that somehow Sasuke will get there--but he's not there yet(according to what little has been shown so far).

^^^^^ in Bold !!! still +rep