Theory: The destruction of Uzushiogakure and Madara's Rinnegan

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Contrary to what many people have said, I think it's possible Naruto could get the Rinnegan. Kurama told Sasuke not to kill Naruto because he would regret it, and maybe because the Kurama knew something about the Uzumakis through his experiences with the Sage and Madara. I feel there is something special about Naruto's Uzumaki heritage.

Now for the theory:


The Senju originally had the Six Path's tablet being passed down to every Hokage, but the moment Madara saw it after the Uchiha formed their alliance with the Senju, he saw what others couldn't due to his highly evolved EMS. Madara found out about the Sage and the Juubi through the tablet and devised a plan to obtain the power of the SO6P who was seen as a God (Rinnegan/Juubi).
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What were Onoki and Muu so shocked about? What had Madara just done? I believe Madara had the intentions of stealing the stone tablet.

After the battle with Hasirama, he achieved Rinnegan by combining his Uchiha DNA with Senju DNA. He learned from the tablet that combining the two traits of the SO6P would result in the aquisition of the Rinnegan.

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Madara felt that he was the only one who deserved this power. He felt he needed to get rid of any possible threat by eliminating anyone else who was able to achieve his current power. This took place in the years after he secretly left Konoha. Other Uchiha members would've been able to achieve the Rinnegan but I question whether he had the balls to kill the people he so desperately wanted to get what they deserved.

So the next best thing to stop the Rinnegan from activating was to have a second attempt at destroying the Senju. But wasn't the last one Hashirama? I think that before the Senju decided to expand; some of the Senju forming the Whirlpool Village. Here the Uzumakis were much less diluted in Senju blood which Madara knew. So once Hashirama and Tobirama were out the picture, all he had to do was one thing: Destroy Whirlpool.

How? How about a giant meteor obliterating everything within sight in an instant?

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Remember, in the manga he stated that 'he hadn't enjoyed this view in a while'; I think this points to the fact he obviously used his meteor jutsu before. Used it on Uzushiogakure.

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He obliterated the Uzumaki and Madara continued with his plan to power. I believe that at one point Madara realized he had to die and be brought back by the Rinnegan via Rinne Tensei. Maybe he read more of the tablet with his new eyes and found another requirement to obtain the Juubi. So he needed time and an assistant: Tobi. Unfortunately he killed all possible Senju except two: Uzumaki Nagato and Kushina.

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He chose Nagato and would leave the rest to his assistant once dead. Tobi would continue and develop Nagato till he was ready. But I think Tobi went rogue and wanted to save the revival for himself (as he stated) in order to obtain the power for his own desire. Going after the tailed beasts were all for his Moons Eye Plan. He wants to control the Juubi with the Rinnegan.

Now the war is occuring and I believe that Tobi is developing Sasuke to get the Rinnegan in order to use the revival jutsu on Tobi after he would die. Sasuke is the final Uchiha. Tobi is planning on syncing Sasuke to Gedo Mazo:

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This is why Orochimaru and Kabuto wanted Sasuke. They failed at getting Itachi. Sasuke was the answer to achieving all jutsu through the Rinnegan and Orochimaru knew this.

I think that Madara destroyed the Uzumaki Clan to stop any future threats. He didn't want anyone obtaining his power. The Uzumakis and Uchiha were the last remnants of the two sons and the only ones who could obtain the power of a God. Now there's only Naruto and Sasuke (that we know of); these two being the only ones with potential to awaken this power.

Anyway, these were just my ideas. Thoughts?:shrug:
 

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i tried to rep you but it turns out i cant!because i have repped you recently or something...you deserve it damnit!
well it isnt easy to kill all the uzumaki has they spreaded trough the globe...some probaby in deed wore killed by madara,others married senju and others fled just like nagatos parents...
 
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well put and well made. That actually makes a lot of sense. and works well with uzumaki being part uchiha part senju. ie rinnegan and ie why they are diluted. also why he would know about them. not enough +rep can be given
 

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i tried to rep you but it turns out i cant!because i have repped you recently or something...you deserve it damnit!
well it isnt easy to kill all the uzumaki has they spreaded trough the globe...some probaby in deed wore killed by madara,others married senju and others fled just like nagatos parents...

well put and well made. That actually makes a lot of sense. and works well with uzumaki being part uchiha part senju. ie rinnegan and ie why they are diluted. also why he would know about them. not enough +rep can be given

Thanks xd
 

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Doesn't anyone else have an opinion????????
 
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destruction by a meteor..I think people will see a huge hole in the ground and but is nowhere mentioned and you have lots of if's ..
 

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You really did your homework + rep!:D
I don´t think madara used that meteor cuz then it would be in the history books, the uzumaki were destroyed in a war by lots of shinobi!
 

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Nice theory, but I think you're forgetting that Tsunade is a Senju as well. Just a minor detail xd

Yes, but she was under the protection of the village and Lord Hiruzen so it would've been close to impossible for Madara to take her out.....

You really did your homework + rep!:D
I don´t think madara used that meteor cuz then it would be in the history books, the uzumaki were destroyed in a war by lots of shinobi!

Do you have the pages where it specifically says it was destroyed by shinobi? Or does it just say war because this could leave the door open to many things....
 

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Rep+ all the way! This is a very good analytical approach, the only question I have (not to you specifically) would be about DNA grafting. To my knowledge the only characters in the series who know anything about direct genetic alteration are Orochimaru and Kabuto. I am trying to wrap my head around this account of Madara acquiring Hashirama's strength (Senju blood quite possibly) without the assistance of a specialist in genetics. (It brings me back to ppl like Danzo...who had dealings with Orochimaru in order to secure the sharingans in a senju (yamato) infused arm! There is also a murky question mark as to how yamato is needed along with sasuke into the gedo statue to fuse both bloodlines...) It's all so confusing, because I don't fully understand why Tobi would need to place sasuke in the gedo...unless Tobi truly isn't an uchiha himself....idk. However, rep up!!! (Excellent theory!!)
 

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Rep+ all the way! This is a very good analytical approach, the only question I have (not to you specifically) would be about DNA grafting. To my knowledge the only characters in the series who know anything about direct genetic alteration are Orochimaru and Kabuto. I am trying to wrap my head around this account of Madara acquiring Hashirama's strength (Senju blood quite possibly) without the assistance of a specialist in genetics. (It brings me back to ppl like Danzo...who had dealings with Orochimaru in order to secure the sharingans in a senju (yamato) infused arm! There is also a murky question mark as to how yamato is needed along with sasuke into the gedo statue to fuse both bloodlines...) It's all so confusing, because I don't fully understand why Tobi would need to place sasuke in the gedo...unless Tobi truly isn't an uchiha himself....idk. However, rep up!!! (Excellent theory!!)

Hmm, I get what you're saying, I can only assume Madara somehow did it himself - we've seen him with wood release amongst other things and there is no character we can logically suggest helped Madara. Put simply, at this moment, there's no way of knowing :shrug:
 
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Your teory is far stretched...Why would the Senju have the tablet it you need sharingan for it? In your teory he distroyed one of the strongest village but he could not kill Tsunade because of Lord Hiruzen

Why would Madara leave Itachi and Sasuke alive it he wanted to kill everyone who can achieve rinnegan.. why he would need to die in order to be revived? The uzumaki clan were so far from rinnegan..to say that he killed them because of that is a very long shot..not to say that the rinnegan isn't the power..if you don't have the chakra for it you're no match..
 

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Your teory is far stretched...Why would the Senju have the tablet it you need sharingan for it? In your teory he distroyed one of the strongest village but he could not kill Tsunade because of Lord Hiruzen

Why would Madara leave Itachi and Sasuke alive it he wanted to kill everyone who can achieve rinnegan.. why he would need to die in order to be revived? The uzumaki clan were so far from rinnegan..to say that he killed them because of that is a very long shot..not to say that the rinnegan isn't the power..if you don't have the chakra for it you're no match..

They could have the tablet they just couldn't read it.........Uzushiogakure was known for it's sealing techniques not for brute strength...........Itachi and Sasuke were born after Madara died.
 

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You'd have to consider that this is possible though.......
 
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