Sasuke MS misconception

[Sephiron]

And therefore the only 1 confirmed... Don't hash me or anything I'm just saying that there is a possibility that sasuke didn't receive it from itachi.. And btw there's no way itachi would know that sasuke cared about him enough to unlock MS via his death... Especially since the series start he's been jamming hatred down his throat, trying to get him to kill his best friend because him caring for Itachi was unlikely. And death of family member doesn't unlock it either because then there would be hundreds of uchiha with MS from killing their own siblings and parents.

 

[brockleetastesgood]

i agree with seph... he wouldn't have gotten shiz because he wouldn't have changed as dramatically as he did and gain his ms through his involvement in the death of someone close to him. After tobi told him the truth, the dear brother that was once his favorite person returned and fitted the required kill the one closest to you clause of the ms

 

[Dratasy]

And therefore the only 1 confirmed... Don't hash me or anything I'm just saying that there is a possibility that sasuke didn't receive it from itachi.. And btw there's no way itachi would know that sasuke cared about him enough to unlock MS via his death... Especially since the series start he's been jamming hatred down his throat, trying to get him to kill his best friend because him caring for Itachi was slim. And death of family member doesn't unlock it either because then there would be hundreds of uchiha with MS from killing their own siblings and parents.

There are multiple ways for MS to be unlocked, Kakashi, Madara, Izuna, and more than likely Shisui all unlocked it a different way than what Itachi told Sasuke was the way to do it, so it's unclear if Itachi knew a way for Sasuke to obtain it as well, and we probably will never know. Also no worries I don't bash people about their input and opinions on topics, I actually love debates and would never attempt to turn them into arguments I enjoy reading what others have to say on things, so I can possibly learn from it as well

 

[Sephiron]

There are multiple ways for MS to be unlocked, Kakashi, Madara, Izuna, and more than likely Shisui all unlocked it a different way than what Itachi told Sasuke was the way to do it, so it's unclear if Itachi knew a way for Sasuke to obtain it as well, and we probably will never know. Also no worries I don't bash people about their input and opinions on topics, I actually love debates and would never attempt to turn them into arguments I enjoy reading what others have to say on things, so I can possibly learn from it as well

I look forward to debates with you in the future.. Btw I count this as a win xD

 

[Dratasy]

I look forward to debates with you in the future.. Btw I count this as a win xD

Haha I typically stay clear of what people call the "fanboy" debates, so I doubt you'll see me in those but when they're actually worth talking about, then expect to see me giving some form of input to it and haha alright

 

[Tartarus]

Yeah he transfered that and the others as well, the only reason that is in the databook and not the others is because that's the only one that was shown at the time and shown with his Mangekyou design

an interesting idea but that seems like a stretch, even after Tobi reveals the truth about Itachi(which the databook covers), the databook still says that MS is unlocked by the death of your best friend, and shows everyone's MS right next to it, but mentions nothing about it being able to unlock via transfer. Any other means would really just be speculations without much evidence.

 

[NLee]

There are multiple ways for MS to be unlocked, Kakashi, Madara, Izuna, and more than likely Shisui all unlocked it a different way than what Itachi told Sasuke was the way to do it, so it's unclear if Itachi knew a way for Sasuke to obtain it as well, and we probably will never know. Also no worries I don't bash people about their input and opinions on topics, I actually love debates and would never attempt to turn them into arguments I enjoy reading what others have to say on things, so I can possibly learn from it as well

I agree with this. There is probably a more in-depth and difficult way to get it (Kakashi's method perhaps?). It's probable that killing your best friend or closest person to you is the quickest and simplest way.

 

[Zato]

IDK where people are getting the idea that sasuke "received" his MS from itachi when that is completely ignorant. If MS could just be awakened by tapping someones head, clicking your heels 3 times, and saying "Im sorry" unlocks MS it wouldn't be so hard to unlock. All itachi did was seal his Amaterasu into sasuke's eye that would activate if Tobi used his sharingan on him (hence: why when sasuke's eye forced out amaterasu it was Itachi's MS seen.. not Sasuke's). If anyone helped Sasuke achieve MS was Tobi who told Sasuke the life-changing truth about the Uchiha Massacre and through this Sasuke had an epiphany along with the death of his brother (someone who was very dear to him although he didn't realize it at the time) he gained his own MS.
MS can only be awakened through a dramatic event that causes a life changing perspective on the person for example killing your best friend...

I just assume this is a coping rationale for sasuke/ uchiha haters... If your going to hate someone please back-up your info plz.

He didn't give Sasuke the MS but he DID give Sasuke the MS techs. Tobi discovered this after watching the battle Zetsu recorded of them two fighting. It was even proven that Itachi implanted his techs into Sasuke when Sasuke used Tsukuyomi on Bee. Itachi's genjutsu always involve crows. When Sasuke used his Tsukuyomi on Bee, Bee was trapped in crow feathers. He probably transplanted them into Sasuke to make sure Sasuke received Susanoo since Susanoo was rare to achieve. This is probably why his Tsukuyomi(considering that Sasuke's normal genjutsu is pretty good from what we have seen so far) is so weak but his amateratsu is so strong.

Anyway, both Itachi and Tobi made it clearly that Itachi's death was to unlock Sasuke's MS.

 

[Tartarus]

Itachi's genjutsu always involve crows. When Sasuke used his Tsukuyomi on Bee, Bee was trapped in crow feathers. He probably transplanted them into Sasuke to make sure Sasuke received Susanoo since Susanoo was rare to achieve. This is probably why his Tsukuyomi(considering that Sasuke's normal genjutsu is pretty good from what we have seen so far) is so weak but his amateratsu is so strong.

Itachi's not the only one who uses crow genjutsu

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[Zato]

Itachi's not the only one who uses crow genjutsu

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Annnnd?

 

[Phoenix Sage]

Alot of People claim it's a "mistranslation" and Yet i have never seen anyone Prove this.

Kirin Rei was here somewhere. Where she at????

 

[Tartarus]

Annnnd?

I don't think the crows Sasuke used in his Tsukiyomi come from Itachi's eyes, plus didn't the crow thing start with Shisui? I think it's just a style choice.

 

[Zato]

I don't think the crows Sasuke used in his Tsukiyomi come from Itachi's eyes, plus didn't the crow thing start with Shisui? I think it's just a style choice.

So your saying that some random ninja using crow genjutsu's which this person isn't related to Itachi or Sasuke in anyway negates what I said? Sasuke is Itachi's brother and right after receiving his MS he used Tsukuyomi and it involved crows. This is after the fact we are told by Tobi that Itachi transferred all of his eye techs into Sasuke before he died. Also, yes it is a style choice but the fact that Sasuke used crows of all things while using Tsukuyomi implies what Tobi said was correct.

 

[Tartarus]

This is after the fact we are told by Tobi that Itachi transferred all of his eye techs into Sasuke before he died.

The viz translation says "he transferred his own ocular powers" big difference.

 

[Zato]

The viz translation says "he transferred his own ocular powers" big difference.

This is basically what I am saying... Also it basically means nearly the same thing.

 

[Sephiron]

Overall... Looking back at the previous posts the original manga was referred to as a mistranslation as the official data book clearly states that it was a one-time activation seal created by itachi... To assume other powers were transferred or even activated sasuke's MS would be mere speculation.. whether true or not.

 

[Prince Charles]

too some it up sasuke got ms on his own but itachi gave him his ms techs.