minato, kakashi and naruto vs.Tobirama, Hiruzen and Orochimaru

[EliteKakashi]

so i conclude that we know nothing of the second space time jutsu or how good it is.

If Minato used it as setting the bar in comparison to Tobi's space/time ninjutsu I'm more than fine with calling it great/elite.

Using the feats only argument is a fine stance to take, however, there's a point where hype does > feats. This is one of those cases. Being an elite user of space/time, the greatest suiton user in the history of Naruto and inventing Edo Tensei...that's hype that's equaled by very, very, VERY few.

Using feats only, people like Shikamaru would be ranked above Tobirama..and while I love Shika as much as the next guy, I think we can agree that would be pretty ridiculous.

Also, I'd like to ask, what feats puts Kakashi above Tobirama? What has he done that is superior to the hype Tobirama has received?

 

[Gatsuuga]

so i conclude that we know nothing of the second space time jutsu or how good it is.

So we can conclude you don't know of any of Kakashi's feats that can stack up against Tobirama's that I listed above, since you avoided my question for the second time?

 

[Kakashi Fang]

Naruto could practically solo really.

Edo Tendei takes prep time so unless the OP added prep time then Edo is not a factor.

Minato alone would give those three hell, add Naruto and Kakashi it's complete overkill.

Hiruzen and his prime is nothing but hot air, go by facts not rumors.
Tobirama only has water jutsu and s/t..... Kakashi has that and then some.

Bottomline team Minato wins with little difficulty.

Hiruzen, Oro, and Tobirama can't handle Gamabunta and Kurama it's just not possible.

 

[Shinozgr8]

Naruto could practically solo really.

Edo Tendei takes prep time so unless the OP added prep time then Edo is not a factor.

Minato alone would give those three hell, add Naruto and Kakashi it's complete overkill.

Hiruzen and his prime is nothing but hot air, go by facts not rumors.
Tobirama only has water jutsu and s/t..... Kakashi has that and then some.

Bottomline team Minato wins with little difficulty.

Hiruzen, Oro, and Tobirama can't handle Gamabunta and Kurama it's just not possible.

wrong. minato would not give the 2nd GOD OF SHINOBI + Oro + TOBIRAMA hell...just not possible. Minato was only the strongest hokage (other than Hashirama) only because he saved the village and took out fodder ninja in a war.

Kakashi is not a water style master. and he dare not use lightning based ninjutsu, as it can harm both the user and the opponent greatly when combined with water based ninjutsu. tobirama>>>>>kakashi FACT

lets see...team minato has:

gamabunta + like 4 or 5 other toads? + hound summons that are meant for tracking...

team Tobirama has:

giant 3 headed snake + snake summons + manda (which is btw>gamabunta) + enma.
the snakes will defeat the toads. period. the hounds are useless in this fight.

the only way to stop naruto from goin sage mode (which i doubt he'll have time to do) or bijuu mode, is if oro can get close to him.

anywho, i'd still give it to Team Tobirama

 

[Gutsy]

Prime Hiruzen was a legend, so if he is as strong as he is said: Strongest Kage of his time, and strongest Hokage ever.

If so Tobirama wins

If not Naruto