2nd hokage vs itach

[Pain omen]

all the people that have said tobirama

have

1. given a technique he has never used i the manga
2. called the opposition side fanboys with out having any good arguments of their own

 

[Pain omen]

I swear I love itachi but dude...... you fanboys really ( I mean REALLY) over estimate his power.

The second hokage was hokage for a reason. Itachi was a soldier for a reason. nuff said

by this logic tsunade beats madara

again you weren't able to come up with any arguemnts you still think you have the right to use the word fanboy

 

[KiriyuSenju]

Most biased post I've seen in a while. This is almost a praise to Itachi. Go worship him somewhere else.

This is quite ignorant. My post solitary shows Tobirama would beat Itachi. Maybe you should read alittle better. I do not favor Tobirama over Itachi. And it is strictly a anallize which shows both potential. If you cannot bother to read do not post such hidious respose.

 

[Raito]

The second hokage was hokage for a reason.

Best argument I've seen in this thread .
So explain to me once with which known technique Tobirama will beat Itachi, so avoid his Genjutsus, Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu and Susanoo with Totsukas Sword and Yatas mirror. I'm sorry, but I haven't seen a technique of Tobirama which can handle it. So pls show it to me.

The rank of a Ninja is only hype. Itachi was Jonin with 11, Anbu Leader with 13, is he thus stronger than each person who didn't was Jonin or Anbu leader at this young age?

Only fails here.

 

[Pain omen]

you see what i mean people woul call someone a fanboy with out even reading a post correctly. and relising what it says.

this juts prooves my point.

 

[Owarij]

Does not matter what kind of Genjutsu, it's still an illusion, an illusion the Sharingan see through. Won't discuss with fools anymore, which insists by the stupid idea, that the Sharingan can't see through different kinds of genjutsu.

Sasuke saw through Shees blending Genjutsu. If he can see through the blinding, he also can see through the darkness U_U.

Sharingan can see through genjutsu, it can't break it...The user breaks it..
that just means that an uchiha may know they are in a genjutsu faster than another person....

Bringer of darkness isn't a jutsu you can just break, you have to hit the caster to break it... and doing that while you're blind is EXTREMELY difficult,

 

[Pain omen]

Sharingan can see through genjutsu, it can't break it...The user breaks it..
that just means that an uchiha may know they are in a genjutsu faster than another person....

Bringer of darkness isn't a jutsu you can just break, you have to hit the caster to break it... and doing that while you're blind is EXTREMELY difficult,

it doesn't matter kishi never made tobirama use that technique.

you might aswell bring up a fake interview with minato in it. *shisui namekaze*
cough cough

kishi nver wrote it.

 

[Pain omen]

lol.

now honestly tobirama suporters tell with all his abilities shown in the manga
how does he avoid amerterasu.

1.Please note that tobirama will have to be looking at itachis feet to avoid tsukuyomi
2.which means tobiramas reactions are restricted.

3.that bringer of darkness technique is not his tech.
4. that amerterasu takes no prep time or hanseals to use.

do not spectulate about his abilities that actually against the vs section rules.

oh yes and try to refrain from calling people fanboys due to your lack of arguments.

 

[Lord Snow]

From what i have seen from both characters, i will have to say itachi.

Pain omen, please don't double post or call anyone names.

 

[Raito]

Sharingan can see through genjutsu, it can't break it...The user breaks it..
that just means that an uchiha may know they are in a genjutsu faster than another person....

Bringer of darkness isn't a jutsu you can just break, you have to hit the caster to break it... and doing that while you're blind is EXTREMELY difficult,

Nonsense, if you notice a Genjutsu, you still have to break through it - Or Naruto didn't know that he was caught in in an illusion by Itachis finger? Or Orochimaru didn't release that Itachi caught him in one? See through, break through, call it how you want. An illusion is an illusion and affects the chakraflow in the opponents brain. The Sharingan can avoid them all. A DouJutsu, who broke through Tsukuyomi, can obviously break through Hashiramas Genjutsu.

 

[KiriyuSenju]

lol.

now honestly tobirama suporters tell with all his abilities shown in the manga
how does he avoid amerterasu.

1.Please note that tobirama will have to be looking at itachis feet to avoid tsukuyomi
2.which means tobiramas reactions are restricted.

3.that bringer of darkness technique is not his tech.
4. that amerterasu takes no prep time or hanseals to use.

do not spectulate about his abilities that actually against the vs section rules.

oh yes and try to refrain from calling people fanboys due to your lack of arguments.

Look at the post that failed to quote you on the previous page.

 

[Hexuze]

Itachi easily

 

[Pain omen]

no raito hes right.

Bringer of darkness is unbreakable no matter how skilled you are.



it doesn't matter because tobi doesn't have that technique.

 

[itachiEMS]

Tobirama will bag this.

 

[Owarij]

Nonsense, if you notice a Genjutsu, you still have to break through it - Or Naruto didn't know that he was caught in in an illusion by Itachis finger? Or Orochimaru didn't release that Itachi caught him in one? See through, break through, call it how you want. An illusion is an illusion and affects the chakraflow in the opponents brain. The Sharingan can avoid them all. A DouJutsu, who broke through Tsukuyomi, can obviously break through Hashiramas Genjutsu.

why are you repeating what i just said?

SHARINGAN does not get you out of genjutsu.........

you need to get that in your head sir....

it helps you see through genjutsu's and make breaking it easier.. but even then it depends on the skill of the user....

one of the sharingans abilities DOES not include breaking genjutsu.. it can't.....sasuke got caught in itachi's genjutsu easily, and saaw through it, in which itachi commented that he trained his eye well to see through it...


As for the person above, i clearly well know that tobirama doesn't have bringer of darkness, i was just commenting on what the jtusu does and sharingan...

 

[Pain omen]

Tobirama will bag this.

great argument there and what techniques does he have to bag this?

don't spectulate now.

 

[blackbird31468]

we don't know enough about tobirama to come up with a logical outcome of the battle.

 

[Pain omen]

this is a fail thread. it fails epically

we should not inclue characters that have almost no screen time or feats.
and thats why itachi is the clear victor.

 

[Blaze Release]

Lmao this thread is still going on. I wonder what tobirama has shown us for people to say tobirama > itachi

 

[OWanime]

healthy could but maybe not ill itachi bcuz complete nagato can beat hashirama and he is equal to itachi so itachi wins barely xd not enough info on 2nd though