[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 572 Discussion and 573 Predictions

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What did Rikudo Sennin mean when he said "to look for the real strength"?
I think he means th af when they all find a body that they can dwell in they will know true power similar to when they were all in the 10 tails body, tell me what you think of this ( the SO6's ultimate enemy was the 10 tails, the 10 tails HAD a sharingan as it's normal eye's until it was controled by the sage which then made its eyes a mixture of sharingan and rennengan, Itachi also told Sasuke that the sharringan was a DEMON that takes the person over throuh HATRED and REVENGE, now the SO6P had the 10 tails inside him at a point in time and what im trying to say is NARUTO was born with Wiskers on his face because his mother was pregnant while she was a JINJURRIKI so is it not reasonable to say the sharringan was a mutation passed down through the bloodline of the SO6P's oldest SON because the SAGE had the 10 tails inside him while he had sexual relations with his WIFE) I am also saying HISTORY is repeating itself MADARA is the 10 TAILS contiousness and NARUTO is the SAGES"reincarnation" let me know wat u think plz.
 
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he was asking about naruto's clan, not his clones.

"Naruto looks just like the sage..
I'm not sure but did they ever say what happened to the narutos clan because there obviously not around for a reAson..so my real questions is how did they all DIE?"

its been said somewhere in the manga(dont remember where) that they were wiped out along with their village(the whirlpool village).
oh, thanks for the correction.....now as for where in the manga it mentions his clan was wiped out....i believe it was about 500-509 where he meets his mother when learning to control kyubbi, she mentioned she was from this village and that the uzumaki clan symbol is honored by leaf village as it is included in their crest on the back & shoulders of the uniforms. or something like that was said....i am pretty sure that is where it is mentioned. they were wiped out because of fear of their long life and sealing capability but I dont recall exactly where that was mentioned.
 

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I don't wanna make a thread but I have an idea who Tobi is. He's not Orbito cause he's old. His fight with Karin expresses this when he calls her child and the rinkels. He's not Madara's brother because he has no eyes and he's dead.

I was thinking Tobi knows the leaf village's secrets and he knows the real Madara. The only old person it could be is Uchiha Kagami. He's a Uchiha that could have trained under the real Madara and he would have also been an elder. Much is unknown about him except he was in the 2nd hokage's squad. Tobi has a mask because he's someone we all know or saw but didn't really pay attention to. Tobi can't be the SO6P or the sages elder son because they already possess the rinnegan.

Kagami could have helped Madara and being by Madara's side learned his secrets. He is also in possession of Madara's things like his fan. Tobi has to have been someone who knew the real Madara or was a student of the real Madara because even Madara knows who Tobi is.
O.O i know who he is since he a master a space/time manipulation maybe he sasuke from the future or an alternate naruto :p
 

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Just what kind of power did Hashirama have..? Being able to go against Madara and full-power Kurama together and still win the fight... truly frightening.
 

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Just what kind of power did Hashirama have..? Being able to go against Madara and full-power Kurama together and still win the fight... truly frightening.
well I doubt his power rivled Kyuubi's raw power, but like the Uchiha the Senju also have their abilities to subdue bijuus and prevent them from using their power
 

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O.O i know who he is since he a master a space/time manipulation maybe he sasuke from the future or an alternate naruto :p
i've got better theory :D what if all the Naruto universe is happened in sage of six path mind so all of the life of Naruto, Kyubi the whole event is just a big and greater Tsukiyomi or Genjutsu of SO6P :D haha
 

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whoaaah!!!!!!!

this chap is definitely a bruce lee chapter!!! 5/5 up there in my top tiers of greatest chaps!

1. is tobi underestimating Naruto with that recent jinchs and tailed beasts' quorum?
2. is tobi someone else except being former self of madara?
3. is Naruto more powerful than sasuke now?
4. who is the real so6p?

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1. no, tobi knows this will happen. but he has aces up on his sleeves. sasuke is one.
2. when i see tobi touches edo-madara and nothing happens, then tobi is not madara. tobi as he said is no one else. he is no one. madara has been no one. so what is in a name? why does he call himself tobi and then referred to himself as madara. yes, he is indeed a liar. Naruto just learned a few good names.....any ideas guys?????
pred: tobi is the ist jinchuuriki of the 10-tailed beast prior to the so6p. if he is not madara. the body of the juubi is in the center of the moon. therefore, tobi could be the jinchuuriki and the first host of the 10 tails. he was defeated by the so6p, defeated by good. evil that he was, he calls himself now - tobi (to-bi...as to juu-bi - former host). im not that good with semantics. i just think this would be a very good plot. for now.
3. Naruto is now more powerful than sasuke. not after we see sasuke with his new ems soon.
4. so6p is .....we still do not know. period. all i know is that he is not Naruto, and definitely not tobi.

hola mujeres!
hasta otra!
 

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A lot of you are really grasping for straws with this discussion.

'Sasuke is gonna get his ass beat.'

'Naruto is going to become the 10 tails jinchuriki.'

'Naruto is the reincarnation of the So6P.'

'Tobi is the So6P's eldest son.'

'Tobi is Kagami, cuz Madara trained Kagami.'

I'm just going to explain to everyone what's going on, starting from the beginning of the manga.

1.
From the beginning, when the So6P tamed the Juubi, he was known as the ninja who gave birth to all ninja techniques. He defeated the Juubi in combat, sealing it's body inside the moon, separating the other 9 Bijuu and sealing them inside himself.

He sealed them inside himself not to become the ultimate ninja, but to protect the world from their power, should it fall into the wrong hands. At that time, he tamed the Bijuu and squashed their hate and anger.

2.
When the So6P was close to dying, he named his successor, the younger of his two sons, and gave him the powers of his body (physical and elemental based techniques, sealing jutsu, ect). He then gave his elder son the power of his eyes (genjutsu, space time manipulation, enhance sensory, ect).

This angered the elder son, for he felt that he was the rightful heir to the So6P's legacy. The S06P also freed the Bijuu from their captivity inside his body, scattering them across the world, giving them the chance to live a life of freedom in their own wills.

3.
Outraged, the eldest son of the Sage declared his own brother his mortal enemy, and a blood feud was born within their clan, splitting it in half, which would later become the Senju and the Uchiha.

At some point, the clans began hunting and capturing the Bijuu, to utilize them as weapons of destruction and power. Also, at some point, the sons of the So6P died, yet their feud lived on in their descending clans.

4.
Hundreds of years later, two Uchiha brothers were born, who were easily the most powerful Uchiha to have descended thus far. They made a name for their clan and soon found themselves rivaling the Senju for Power.

At some point, Madara went blind after using his MS too much, and his brother then gave him his own eyes.

After many battles and conflicts vying for power, the leaders of the Uchiha and Senju decided to call a peace, and live amongst each other in the same village. Disgraced by the actions of his fellow clansmen, he sought to take further military action in attempt to overthrow the peace and the Senju, once and for all.

Instead of his Clan supporting his actions, he became an outcast, leaving the village forever.

4.
Years later, Madara developed a plan to end the fighting for good and bring true peace the world of shinobi. He confronted the 1st hokage, Hashirama Senju in a battle that was merely intended to allow Madara to obtain some of his DNA, the very same DNA that allow for him to control the Wood element.

5.
It is unclear at this point when Madara learned how to use the Rinnegan or what the conditions were, but it is clear that he did use it in his battle with Hashirama, also using the 9 tailed fox. Hashirama took control over the fox from Madara, and his wife, sealed it inside herself.

6.
The reason why Madara fought to gain some of Hashirama's DNA, wasn't to unlock the Rinnegan or Izanagi (both are techniques that do not require the 1sts DNA to use). Instead, he was doing so to gain the ability to control the wood element, in turn being able to control the Kyuubi and other tailed beasts.

The obvious fact is that no matter who from the Uchiha clan controls a Bijuu, the power of a wood element user can trump it.

7.
Zetsu is a key part of Tobi's identity for several reasons. The first being that Zetsu was likely one of the children that Orochimaru kidnapped and experimented on using the 1st hokage's DNA, much like captain Yamato is, and Danzou's right arm.

It's also unclear as to when Madara died, but it's obvious that he survived the battle against Hashirama at least long enough to experiment with the 1st Hogake's DNA.

8.
At some point (literally decades after Madara's supposed death) Orochimaru joined up with Akatsuki, likely offering Zetsu as a subordinate to the organization, much in the way he did with other subordinates of his with special abilities.

9.
It's obvious that Zetsu has the 1sts DNA within him, he's a plant like creature who has many traits of members of the Senju clan. It's also obvious that Senju DNA wasn't needed to enable the awakening of Izanagi or the Rinnegan, however, Danzou, needed Hashirama's DNA to facilitate being able to use it effectively, having an entire arm that housed multiple functioning sharingan, allowing the use of the technique for up to 10 minutes.

10.
Tobi's connection to the 1st hokage is likely an extention of Orochimaru's experiments to cultivate the 1sts cells into his own body, and is also what Kabuto meant when he 'perfected that small part' of Edo Madara upon revival.

The reason why Hashirama's DNA would be sought after for this purpose, is that anyone who successfully infused DNA that could control wood elements, is someone that could also control their own lifespan. Trees live of many thousands of years (provided no one cuts them down) and there trees that have roots that are 100s of thousands of years old.

It's already been shown that Tobi has a large stockpile of Sharingan eyes, as well as an infinite supply of 'zetsu' bodies (even more now that Yamato has been captured). In theory, Tobi could live forever, which would be necessary to facilitate the moons eye plan, to begin with.

11.
Hashirama's DNA is key to living forever, and having the ultimate control over the Bijuu.

12.
Naruto isn't the 'reincarnation' of the So6P, he's the descendent of him. This means that he's bears some resemblance to the S06P and also shares similar ideals and philosophies.

This is why he's able to convince the Bijuu that he will do anything within his power to set them free.

13.
The sage of the sixth paths was not implying that someone would become him someday, or that someone would unite the Bijuu and become the 10 tails jinchurik, therefore gaining the ultimate poweri. No, the So6P was implying that the ultimate power is freedom, and that the Bijuu would meet someone at some point in the future who gives them back their freedom.

Since the So6P freed the Bijuu, they have been hunted and captured inside human hosts to be used as weapons, living anything but a 'free' existence. It doesn't matter if you are a giant mass of chakara or a human being, that kind of imprisonment is going to cause you to feel hate, resentment, and rage towards any human you see.

Naruto is the only person to come along since the S06P who shares the same desire to set the Bijuu free, and because of that, there will be no '10 tails' transformation for Naruto, and he certainly won't 'become' the S06P.

There, I hope I've managed to keep your guys' attention. I apologize for being so long winded, and not providing any factual info to support this post. I figure it's already long enough, and anyone who cares enough to read it, has probably read all of the manga at least a couple times, and will be more than capable of fact checking this post, coming back here to either agree or refute what I have posted here.

PCE.
 

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Naruto 573: The seal is broken

Tobi reaches into a pocket at his side and removes a seal as the others look on.

Tobi: "You don't think this fight is over do you? Its only just begun."

Tobi performs a hand sign and suddenly Shichiseiken, Benihisago, and Kōkinjō appear in a puff of smoke. Naruto looks at them with an odd expression on his face. Tobi wraps Kōkinjō around his left arm while taking Shichiseiken with his right hand.

Shikaku: "Naruto be very careful. What Tobi has there is a weapon specificly meant for sealing targets away inside that jug."
Naruto thinking: "What does it do exactly?"
Shikaku: "That rope around his arm when it strikes you can curse you with your most common word acting as the trigger that will seal you if you say it aloud. That sword allows that word to become the seal. That jug is where you will go if you are sealed."
Naruto thinking: "Than I guess from this point on I should say nothing."
Shikaku: "I am having the others instructed as well in what is going on. Be very careful."

Kakashi and Guy turn around to face naruto while bee walks over to naruto now in his normal state.

Kakashi: "I guess that we have to get those away from him no matter what."
Guy: "With his ability to move through solid objects it will be hard to get a grip on that rope."
Bee: "..."

Naruto suddenly has a realization.

Naruto: "There is one weakness though to this..."

Naruto whispers it into each of their ears and they all nod their heads.

Naruto: "Than its settled?"

They all nod their heads in agreement as Tobi readies himself to fight. Naruto performs a hand signs and summons several dozen clones that charge with him towards Tobi. Kakashi and Guy charge towards Tobi as Bee stands back. Tobi suddenly disappears below the ground and reappears in the midst of the clones which have suddenly stopped. Several of the clones are instantly destroyed as tobi performs a round house swing of the sword and the rope. As Tobi prepares to do the curse Kakashi suddenly charges towards him with a chidori which forces Tobi to disappear below the ground. Tobi reappears amongst another set of clones and again starts slashing at them. As Tobi prepares to do a hand sign guy manages to throw a punch from behind at Tobi which almost makes contact as tobi teleports away at the last second. Tobi suddenly appears right next to Bee and prepares to strike him when suddenly he hears a swirling noise. Tobi looks back to see naruto about to hit the jug with a rasenshuriken.

Tobi: "Shit!"

Tobi appears in front of the naruto clone which tosses the jug up into the air as Tobi looks up in shock. Tobi triest to suck it up when suddenly a naruto clone from above shatters it with a large rasengan.

Tobi: "NOOOO! Damn you naruto!"

The jug explodes with energy as the clone is instantly destroyed by the blast of energy escaping from the jug. Tobi retreats back a distance as several figures land on the ground. As the blast clears, Samui, Atsui, Ginkaku, and Kinkaku all land on the ground in a surprised state.

Ginkaku: "What is this place Kinkaku?"
Kinkaku: "I don't know Ginkaku."
Atsui: "Is this hell?"
Samui: "Last thing I remember was being sealed."
Naruto thinking: "Who are those two?"
Kurama: "Naruto you are not gonna believe this."

574: Divided loyalties


ANOTHER PREDICTION


By: Anonymous

Naruto 573 : An Era's Weight!!

[He carries his comrades Faith]

Naruto : I have learned a lot of names and have been taught lot of things.

Tobi : (Names?). I don't know what you learned and I don't want to either. But my little puppet play is over. From here on it's the real deal.

(Scene switches to the battle between madara and kages)

(Everyone sees the bijuu bomb blast over the horizon and are stunned)

Tsunade : That direction is.....What the hell could have been going on.

Madara : Seems like he is getting started.....well, let me take this battle up a notch (to full rinnegan level). Kuchiyose : GEDOU MAZOU !!

(Scne shifts to tobi)

Tobi : (After sensing something)...This sensation..! Damn you Kabuto, it would have been a real pain if the statue isn't in synchronisation.

(Scene shifts to madara)

Madara : It seems like he took proper precautions.

Kabuto : (speaking through telepathy) It isn't going to be thaat easy, ya know.

(Scene shifts to Tobi)

Tobi : (those two-kakashi and gai). Those two bugs keep getting in the way, first i'll finish them up. (forms a seal) PHANTOM DRAGONS

Dragons which look like chakra comes out of the mouth of gedou majou and goes after Naruto and Bee.

Naruto: Too slow.

Bee : While i'm in mode Eight T, this can't beat ME.

Both Bee and Naruto dodges it with ease.

Tobi : Got you.

Those dragons immediately targets kakashi and gai.

Tobi : They were never meant for you Naruto.

Kakashi : Watch out Gai! From the reports if they touch you your soul will be ripped out and taken away.

Gai : Heh? ...Soul? ....Seriously!!

Kakashi : Anyhow dodging them comes first.

After both of Kakashi and Gai dodged them, the dragons still keep following them. Suddenly Tobi phases infront of Kakashi while Kakashi is watching his back and is about to grab him.

Gai : Kakashi! the front.

Kakashi defends himself from Tobi, but the dragons from the back catch up with him.

A Blast! Naruto uses his bijuu bomb on Gedou mazou, which pushes it farther away.

Tobi : what?

Naruto : You don't have time to look over there.

A clone in bijuu mode punches him in the face. But Tobi goes intangible.

Tobi : If you can't even catch me. How are you going to beat me?

Naruto : You seem to be proud of that jutsu. Well then let me show you the jutsu only a jinchuuriki with multiple beast chakra in him can perform.

Tobi : ...?

Naruto remembers the last words of his fellow jinchuuriki saying you carry the weight of an era on your shoulders, show him what we can do.

Naruto : Kurama! And Everyone. Thanks for trusting me.

Kurama : (smiles)

Naruto forms a seal.

[Naruto is ready to unleash his full power]


ANOTHER PREDICTION


BIJUU CONFERENCE

- The beast bomb clash blinds the landscape in white light. Naruto is now facing all the bijuu infront in a setting like Naruto and Sasuke's clash after the Kage meeting.

Naruto: One by one please im not good with names

- Bijuu all at once shouting over each coming across hostile due to being under control of Tobi

Kurama: SILENCE!!!

- Bijuu recognise Kurama's presence

Kurama: This is Naruto Uzumaki, his will recognises our existence like no other since The Sage of the Six Paths. LET HIM SPEAK!!!

Bijuu: !!!

Naruto: ...I am Naruto Uzumaki

- Naruto lifts his head to face to see the bijuu in a line with the chakra chains and stake just like Son.

Naruto: The guy in the mask is controlling you all, using your power. He wants to fulfill a plan which will leave the entire world in his possession.

Bjiuu: ...!!

5 tails: Kurama you should know better, this human doesn't deserve our audience. Power, power, power!!! For centuries we have exhausted our own efforts to please these humans. Our power has been abused for centuries and now we are to bow because you have!!

Naruto: I AM UZUMAKI NARUTO!! Im not just a human, I have a name! You all are not beasts! Your not weapons for people to use like the masked guy. I will set you all free, i wont fail you 'it is my ninja way'.

Two Tails: ...This child!!!

Kurama: HAHAHA!!! Trust me to be the one to find 'him'.

Five Tails: You really think so Kurama.

Two Tails: If Kurama fights with him and 8 tails I will fight too in the name of freedom!

- Naruto & Kurama grinning, scoping the other bijuu Naruto is surrounded by fists.

Kakashi: GAI HERE COME THE BLAST HOLD ON!!!

- The fox shroud catches Kakashi & Gai from the blast. The Bijuu fly across to the Gedo Mazo and Tobi struggling to find footing from the blast.

Tobi: UZUMAKI!!! Your death will bring peace come fourth!!!

Naruto: My life will bring freedom to all, you who control, abuse and lie will never bring peace to this world, Nagato and Itachi are examples of what your vision can cause. It finishes now!!

- Naruto Creates a hand seal for 'that jutsu'

Tobi starts owning the group and summons GM

-> Gai goes eighth gate and prepares to harm GM

-> Tobi tries to stop him but Kakashi keeps him intangible with Kamui as a threat

-> Gai harms GM and he spits out the Bijuu

-> Tobi controls them with his Sharingan, quickly takes Bee (got worn out of Hachibi) and sends them all back to his hideout to avoid chakra loss

-> Tobi at his hide-out: Alright, time to use hachibi's tentacle + kinGin bros + bijuu to revive Juubi

-> Tobi: nah i'll wait, if he's unstable i might not be able to control hi-

-> GM automatically starts taking the chakra

-> Tobi: Wait.. wha?

-GM's horn impales Tobi

- The sky turns red and black as ****, then you see the moon appear

- Tobi: Is this.. Kabuto!

/ at kage fight

Madara and Kages: What!? What has Kabuto accomplished!?

/back at Kabuto's hide-out

Kabuto: This sky...

Kabuto: What has tobi done!?

Is the Juubi finally acting on his own accord!?
 

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Just what kind of power did Hashirama have..? Being able to go against Madara and full-power Kurama together and still win the fight... truly frightening.
well its not difficult since Naruto is similar to him but without the jutsus and from the few pics we have seen that battle had to be epic.
I was reading the chap again and there was a pic were narto, gai and kakashi landed after removing the rods from the bijus, seeing Naruto in front with kakashi & gai backing him up is just cool if I am not mistaken that is the first time Naruto has taken lead in a major fight.
 
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