we have seen ems its basically ms

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sasuke had a long battle with danzo and they fight till all their chakra was low

I don't count that considering danzo could of killed sasuke. But he was deciding on who he should use shusui's Ms technique on and he spent to much time thinking about it. Though it was a good fight still and sasuke wasn't at his peak when the fight happened.
 

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I don't get the entire madara vs hashirama thing,

they clashed manytimes when madara had Ms, and drawed

Madara gets ems powerboost, he loses?

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Sasukes Susanoo before:
Sasukes Susanoo now:

It changed, and I really doubt its only for show. Moreover, manga proves that - Madaras ribcage was definietly more durable that Sasukes.

So yes, EMS enhance previous kaleidoscope techniques, not only gives one new one.
 
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Um
Thread and thread-maker fail.
Seeing how they have no idea WHAT the EMS is really capable of...SMH
 

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Eternal means it lasts forever. EMS is just MS that wont eventually go blind/lose power. If EMS was something other than that it would be called Super Ms or something like that. there has never been anything that said you gain any new abilities from it, the reason madara became so powerful with it is because he could now use his MS all the time with no risk of losing it. before he had to limit usage because of how much pain it caused and because it was making him lose his eyesight.
 

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Pretty sure Madara lost that fight by some hidden factor we don't know about yet. You know as well as I do there's no way Hashi defeated Madara head up.

Madara either threw the fight in order to steal Hashi's power ( cells ) and fake his death, or some other random shit happened.

or maybe there was reason behind hashirama being called the most powerful shinobi of his time.
 

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Eternal means it lasts forever. EMS is just MS that wont eventually go blind/lose power. If EMS was something other than that it would be called Super Ms or something like that. there has never been anything that said you gain any new abilities from it, the reason madara became so powerful with it is because he could now use his MS all the time with no risk of losing it. before he had to limit usage because of how much pain it caused and because it was making him lose his eyesight.
You desperately need to re read the manga good sir, it clearly says that EMS unlocks 4th kaleidiscope technique. ->

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Sasukes Susanoo before:
Sasukes Susanoo now:

It changed, and I really doubt its only for show. Moreover, manga proves that - Madaras ribcage was definietly more durable that Sasukes.

So yes, EMS enhance previous kaleidoscope techniques, not only gives one new one.
 
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1. madara didnt become the strongest shinobi in the world it said he got praised kind of a difference
2.unstobbale power? he got defeated by the 1st

Being praised as the strongest shinobi in the world kind of means that everybody in the world considered him the strongest shinobi. And yes I know he was defeated by the 1st and I even said that in my post, but the point is EMS isn't just a MS. If that was the case then Itachi wouldn't of called it true power.
 

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Thread and thread-maker fail.
Seeing how they have no idea WHAT the EMS is really capable of...SMH

''have no idea what the ems is really capable'' are you a retard or just a retard i explained perfectly that we do do have a idea of what ems can do hes going to use the same techniques just in a different way and their going to be more powerful and enhanced hes still going to use sussano,ameratsu, and some genjutsu didnt he use that when he had ms? so you fail and stfu
 

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Being praised as the strongest shinobi in the world kind of means that everybody in the world considered him the strongest shinobi. And yes I know he was defeated by the 1st and I even said that in my post, but the point is EMS isn't just a MS. If that was the case then Itachi wouldn't of called it true power.

1. praised and word is is different thats like i saying plp ''praise'' me for being the faster runner in the world. but theirs a person who ''is'' the fastest person in the world. like i said ems is in a way similar to ms if you read my post
 

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Pretty sure Madara lost that fight by some hidden factor we don't know about yet. You know as well as I do there's no way Hashi defeated Madara head up.

Madara either threw the fight in order to steal Hashi's power ( cells ) and fake his death, or some other random shit happened.

well until we find out otherwise hasi defeated madara fair and square and thats that.
 

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1. praised and word is is different thats like i saying plp ''praise'' me for being the faster runner in the world. but theirs a person who ''is'' the fastest person in the world. like i said ems is in a way similar to ms if you read my post

I mean, yeah. .It 's still "Mangekyou Sharingan", so of course the two Sharingans are similar, if not mostly the same.

Thing is, along with not going blind ever again, The Eternal Mangekyou probably amps your Sharingan powers even more than before. Like in Sasuke's case, his Susano'o looks waay different, and it can inferred it's stronger now with EMS simply because EMS is a higher tier of Sharingan than plain ol' Mangekyou Sharingan. .If that makes since.
 

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well until we find out otherwise hasi defeated madara fair and square and thats that.

I understand that, all I'm saying is I find it really unlikely. Not doubting Hashi or anything, his legend speaks for itself.
 

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I want the 35 seconds you owe me I spent reading that nonsense. EMS is a level above MS making the user much more powerful. I'll be expecting my seconds back shortly.
 

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I want the 35 seconds you owe me I spent reading that nonsense. EMS is a level above MS making the user much more powerful. I'll be expecting my seconds back shortly.

Sorry but, who are you talikng too?
 

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What people fail to realise is that madara got his frightening reputation due the ems.
 

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For one Itachi called it true power, secondly Madara rose to become the strongest shinobi in the world after acquiring ems, and thirdly Madara was said to have unstoppable power after acquiring it(Yes I know Hashirama defeated him but you get the point).

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