DBZ one of worst animes ever

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dood if i really wanted to troll i would have just posted DBZ sucks without any reasons. I actually gave legit reasons as to why I feel it should not be in the top animes list. Popularity alone doesn't make something great. Jersey Shore is a prime example of this. It is ridiculously popular but is complete garbage.
 
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Technically, he's right. If you consider the countless anime in the world, many anime got better plot than Dragon Ball.

But still, it's useless to insult DB series cause none of those will have be where they are today if Dragon ball was never made. It's the source of all animes/mangas. Without it, the world will have remain almost clueless about the manga generation.
I agree, heck even friggin' Queen's Blade got better plot than Dragon Ball. However, it is a classic, but the source of all anime and manga?

You do realize Toriyama's inspiration for Dragon Ball was Fist of the North Star right? You do realize that Saint Seiya was the DB of its time before DB came along right? And the reason why DB is still big in Japan is because One Piece did a crossover with it and the western anime fandom mistakenly connect that popularity with Naruto?

I mean, I know most shounen mangakas nowadays got their inspiration from DB, but DB's persisting popularity doesn't come from Naruto.
 
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A lot of you feel that just because DBZ was popular is reason enough for it to be great. Yes I know it probably influenced all the great animes out today and thats great but try to think about this objectively, just because something is popular doesn't make it great. Jersey Shore, Justin Beiber, REBECCA BLACK are prime examples of this!
 

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A lot of you feel that just because DBZ was popular is reason enough for it to be great. Yes I know it probably influenced all the great animes out today and thats great but try to think about this objectively, just because something is popular doesn't make it great. Jersey Shore, Justin Beiber, REBECCA BLACK are prime examples of this!
No, Rebecca black is not popular, no one likes her.JB, I give you props, lesbian fan girls all want to rape her.
 

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A lot of you feel that just because DBZ was popular is reason enough for it to be great. Yes I know it probably influenced all the great animes out today and thats great but try to think about this objectively, just because something is popular doesn't make it great. Jersey Shore, Justin Beiber, REBECCA BLACK are prime examples of this!
justin beiber is a gay with lots of girl fans. i know he is gay bcz if i had these many girl fans i would party with them all the time and forget the lame singing.:D
 

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1st post on this thread!!!

dont turn this into a Beiber thread it will just make this thread more pathetic than it already is.....
 

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People can easily say the same thing about the Naruto anime.
Nope, they can't. Dragon ball made the connection towards the West and gave real influence to the whole manga generation. All the mangas that were released in the last Decade got popular thanks to the influence brought previously by Dragon Ball. Without it, perhaps, mangas will only have been popular in Japan. Few forums site. Few online hosting of mangas. Few anime streaming. It will have been a Japan craze only. Not a worldwide one. Dragon ball is the one who changed that and still have a longevity enough to inspire some more people. Naruto haven't influenced that much.

I agree, heck even friggin' Queen's Blade got better plot than Dragon Ball. However, it is a classic, but the source of all anime and manga?

You do realize Toriyama's inspiration for Dragon Ball was Fist of the North Star right? You do realize that Saint Seiya was the DB of its time before DB came along right? And the reason why DB is still big in Japan is because One Piece did a crossover with it and the western anime fandom mistakenly connect that popularity with Naruto?

I mean, I know most shounen mangakas nowadays got their inspiration from DB, but DB's persisting popularity doesn't come from Naruto.

Saint Seya was big but never as much as Dragon Ball. In fact, it got more popular when Dragon ball was released. No matter about how Dragon Ball was influenced, it's the one who connected the Japanese manga culture to the world.

Nowadays, you may be in awe every week with a manga chapter release but did you ever get the craze of that time. If you analyze it, nowadays, mangas have more dramatic, well-created and epic moments in terms of writing but since there are so many mangas releases, none get as defining or as memorable as Dragon Ball moments. Defining chills and craze of the Son-Father Kamehameha or Goku's first SS transformation remain immortal. Will the epic moments in OP, Naruto ect... remain etched in the next 10-20 years? Time will tell but since there are so many new mangas nowadays, chances are more that it will mostly get lost among the other generation and that new ones will take up the flag. In that way, no anime/manga will perhaps influence the manga world as much as Dragon Ball. Despite its deficiency, it has the longest longevity.

It can be said that Dragon Ball was the founder of the Popularity kingdom of the Manga culture while the likes of OP, Bleach, Naruto ect... are rulers..
But there'll be many ruler among time but there'll remain one founder only.
 

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Actually everything he said is true except for dbz being the worst I've seen worse. You are right OP DBZ doesn't have much of a story its mainly just fighting .
 

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Saint Seya was big but never as much as Dragon Ball. In fact, it got more popular when Dragon ball was released. No matter about how Dragon Ball was influenced, it's the one who connected the Japanese manga culture to the world.
Now that's where I believe you're wrong. Anime maybe, but not manga. Naruto was one of the first manga scanned into the mainstream. Saint Seiya is as big as Dragon Ball IN JAPAN. Why do you think Namco Bandai still has games of it even if it's finished already?

And if you think I'm lying, there have been some mangas that have been scanned WAAAYYYY before Naruto did. Ever heard of Whisper of the Heart? Hareluya Boy? I'm sure you've heard of Slam Dunk. None of them catapulted the manga industry in the US to new heights, but Naruto did.

Nowadays, you may be in awe every week with a manga chapter release but did you ever get the craze of that time. If you analyze it, nowadays, mangas have more dramatic, well-created and epic moments in terms of writing but since there are so many mangas releases, none get as defining or as memorable as Dragon Ball moments. Defining chills and craze of the Son-Father Kamehameha or Goku's first SS transformation remain immortal. Will the epic moments in OP, Naruto ect... remain etched in the next 10-20 years? Time will tell but since there are so many new mangas nowadays, chances are more that it will mostly get lost among the other generation and that new ones will take up the flag. In that way, no anime/manga will perhaps influence the manga world as much as Dragon Ball. Despite its deficiency, it has the longest longevity.
DB moments are memorable since it's all we've been exposed with when we were kids. It doesn't take a literary genius to figure out that DB was written with only action in mind, and when you compare it to today's somewhat half-assed plot progression it looks like turd. Don't get me wrong, I like DB as much as the next DB-otaku, but you have to face the truth that sometimes nostalgia goggles can only get you this far.

I'm sure OP moments will be etched in the brain of Japan for the next 20 years. It's been Shounen Jump's flagship now for 13 years; why do you think Toriyama agreed to a cross over with Oda and not Kishimoto?

Although I concede that it's been popular for the longest time already.

It can be said that Dragon Ball was the founder of the Popularity kingdom of the Manga culture while the likes of OP, Bleach, Naruto ect... are rulers..
But there'll be many ruler among time but there'll remain one founder only.
Right, because in the A&M world only western opinion matters? Dragon Ball is that popular today since it received a VERY GOOD DUB before some other companies butchered the succeeding titles (Martian Successor Nadesico, Dai Guard, One Piece). Naruto also received very good reception in CN and Bleach in Adult Swim. Don't peg it on being the founder of the popularity kingdom, because as far as I'm concerned Touch is as popular as DB in the Land of the Rising Sun, where it really matters.
 

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Seriouly who cares about Plot when you have Two people Fighting and Ripping Planets Apart?

As i have said Befor Naruto > DB/DBZ in PLot, But DBZ > Naruto in Fights.
 

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Seriouly who cares about Plot when you have Two people Fighting and Ripping Planets Apart?

As i have said Befor Naruto > DB/DBZ in PLot, But DBZ > Naruto in Fights.
mmm iono bout that the DBZ character were wayyy too overpowered and some of the fights were just dragged out way to long with two kamemehas blasting at each other for 2 or more episodes.

DBZ is just raw power VS raw power, naruto uses strategy in their fights which makes them much more enjoyable.

I say Naruto>DBZ in fights as well
 
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