Minato's apparent "invincibilty"

[Watatsumi]

Looks like I finally managed to create a hot thread.

 

[partha420]

Minato rocks!!!

 

[Blaze Release]

Ill read this later.

Anyway its common sense to say minato is far from invincible.
So what if he slaughtered fodders, during the war. I can name at least 10 ninja's that have slaughtered fodders aswell, nothing special. Besides didnt he have help with the spamming of ftg kunai's.

Anyway bee has demonstrated another weakness of ftg and i have time ill create it. For somebody like bee of all people to show such a weakness in the manga, either shows that bee isnt as dumb as we thought, or ftg isnt as complete as minato fans think

 

[~Uzumaki~]

He can mark Susanoo and teleport into it or put a seal near the Susanoo users feet(its open beneath) and teleport into it, physical barriers dont matter to time space ninjutsu
He can kill the opponent before he's caught in a genjutsu, someone as fast as A couldnt react to his teleportation and if he didnt talk when he went behind Bee, Bee wouldnt have realised either evidenced by the fact that Minato only felt a sword near his belly after saying 'I can't fail' even Tobi couldnt react in time to go intangible.
He can restrain and seal(Four Symbols seal, Eight Trigrams Seal) powerful enemies by putting then in barriers(he wanted to erect a barrier to cover something as large and powerful as Kyubi but Kushina did it instead) or summoning large toads on top of them.
He can teleport a Chibaku Tensei sphere away before it increases to unbelievable size, he can do this while its still a small sphere in the sky without worrying about much chakra loss thus his kunai wont enter into it
He can teleport in front of Nagato and Stab straight through his head during his interval, I doubt Asura armor covers brain and Minato nearly severed an Eight Tail tentacle without any chakra enhancements so he's got strength.
Theory-Now, Itachi was disregarded as the cause of Alliance shinobi killing themselves because its not possible to control people over such distances with genjutsu. It has also been revealed that its possible to use techniques even when caught in a genjutsu-Deidara almost blew himself up, Shikamaru broke his finger. so in the unlikely event that Minato is caught in a genjutsu he can simply teleport to distances where it would be physically impossible for ninja as skilled as Itachi to keep him under genjutsu's control to negate the illusion.
Lastly and most importantly, Minato is not invincible. No shiinobi is invincible.

 

[uchiha i t a c h i]

According to Minato fanboys, Minato can beat everyone by using FTG.

They say stuff like "Minato puts the marking on Sasuke. Later, he can get there by using FTG and kill him in an instant."

However, is this really true?
Is FTG that invincible?

Let's explore this technique's possible weakness.
When Minato marks an opponent and gets there by using FTG, he'll have to attack him if he wants to kill the opponent. From what we've seen, Minato can only use Rasengan, Kunai and a few sealing techniques.

If the opponent attacks Minato or puts Minato under Genjutsu before Minato attacks, Minato loses.

Of course, I'm not saying that Minato can't break out of genjutsu, my point is that the genjutsu will give the user an opening, and it is possible to kill Minato before he can break out of it. This is because Minato would be very close to the user, as he would have used FTG to teleport to him.

The last time we've seen Minato,he was about to have a draw with a young Killer B. B would have pierced Minato with his sword, and Minato was about to kill B with his kunai.If Minato can kill the opponent and escape in an instant, why didn't he do so back then?

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If the opposing shinobi has a powerful armor, like the third Raikage for instance, Minato's attacks will not work on him.The raikage can trade hits with Minato and kill him.

Minato and Rinnegan users:
Lately, fanboys have been arguing that Minato can defeat rinnegan users.
They say that Minato can mark the enemy and destroy him in an instant.
If so, answer these questions:
1.The rinnegan's asura path can create a powerful armor.How can Minato's Rasengan pierce through that?
Even if the rasengan can do that, Preta path will simply absorb it.
2.How can Minato get close to the opponent and mark him if he uses Shinra tensei to repel all of Minato's kunai?
3.How will Minato get past Chibaku tensei when all of his FTG kunai are getting pulled towards it?

MS Users with susanoo:
Minato can't mark the MS user if he has his complete susanoo to protect him.
He can mark susanoo, but he wont be able to destroy it with rasengan.
In case of Sasuke's susanoo, Minato won't be able to get close, as Sasuke guards it with his Enton.
The MS user can put Minato under Genjutsu if Minato tries to attack him, and he can then use the opening to attack Minato with Amaterasu.

Genjutsu is much faster than Minato's kunai, one look is enough to cast it.It can also be cast by using a finger.

Minato fanboys say that Minato's strength is unrivalled, even by so6p, just because Kishi said that in this Manga page:

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They don't use any logic,they flame you for no reason whatsoever, and they accuse you of trolling when they don't have anything left to say.

Conclusion :
1.Minato's FTG is useless against shinobi with strong defences.
2.Minato can't win in an instant, he can only get to the opponent in an instant.
3.If the opponent attacks Minato before Minato attacks him, Minato loses.
4.Minato can't defeat rinnegan users or EMS users.

NOTE: I'm not a Minato hater, I'm just stating facts.
I do hate Minato fanboys though.

:Get your popcorn ready young ones, a flame war is about to begin.

True in most parts reps to watatsumi! :y

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

answer this dude. how wold a fan know whats going to happen in the manga 3 years before the shit comes out?

even kishi can't guarantee that dude, since the way mangaka works they need to discuss each chapter with their editors and if the editors don't think alike then kishi will have to create new scenario that they both agree with, i remember reading that shiranui genma will play a big role in the pain invasion arc but nah no genma in that arc.

Ill read this later.

Anyway its common sense to say minato is far from invincible.
So what if he slaughtered fodders, during the war. I can name at least 10 ninja's that have slaughtered fodders aswell, nothing special. Besides didnt he have help with the spamming of ftg kunai's.

Anyway bee has demonstrated another weakness of ftg and i have time ill create it. For somebody like bee of all people to show such a weakness in the manga, either shows that bee isnt as dumb as we thought, or ftg isnt as complete as minato fans think

don't bother man, that dude who stated minato immune to genjutsu is here, u know what's that mean LOL

And you clearly failed about the point where the 3rd Raikage Injures himslef before that happening.

A word of advise : Read the posts carefully if you don't want to make a fool of yourself

oh really ?

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put aside how the **** minato figure out the 3rd raikage raiton weakness, even without his raiton armor his body is beyond human comprehension and u think kunai will work ? this is madness

exactly. thats exactly why he killed off minato. one of the strongest. the original child of the prophecy.

there is only 2 child of prophecy its nagato and naruto, that's what the great toad elder meant when he said to j-man that he will chose one of them, and its naruto, but minato is the pillar who will support bridge of peace like konan do

 

[Watatsumi]

I just added a poll, feel free to vote.

 

[Minator93]

oh really ?

put aside how the **** minato figure out the 3rd raikage raiton weakness, even without his raiton armor his body is beyond human comprehension and u think kunai will work ? this is madness

You failed to grasp the simplest words...to make it even more simple for you how did the 3rd raikage got injured in the 1st place and hoe did Naruto beat him?...The wounded raikage is open to attacks...further raiton shits itself in front of futon.

 

[F1N1X]

According to Minato fanboys, Minato can beat everyone by using FTG.

Like u said according to fanboyzU_U

They say stuff like "Minato puts the marking on Sasuke. Later, he can get there by using FTG and kill him in an instant

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Yes thats true if he wanted toU_U

However, is this really true?
Is FTG that invincible?

Maybe Maybe Not

Let's explore this technique's possible weakness.
When Minato marks an opponent and gets there by using FTG, he'll have to attack him if he wants to kill the opponent. From what we've seen, Minato can only use Rasengan, Kunai and a few sealing techniques.

Let me correct u,when minato gets to an opponent he is too fast that the ninja can't react quickly to do anything in timeU_U,plus he can telepot with his Rasegan to the ninja's head if he wantedxd

If the opponent attacks Minato or puts Minato under Genjutsu before Minato attacks, Minato loses.

Let me ask how do u attack an opponent that is moving too fast that all u see is a yellow flash,plus u have no idea where he will appear fromU_U

Of course, I'm not saying that Minato can't break out of genjutsu, my point is that the genjutsu will give the user an opening, and it is possible to kill Minato before he can break out of it. This is because Minato would be very close to the user, as he would have used FTG to teleport to him.

This is out of ur point,how do u turn an place someone who is at ur back under genjustu when the Ninja is far faster than u..U_U

The last time we've seen Minato,he was about to have a draw with a young Killer B. B would have pierced Minato with his sword, and Minato was about to kill B with his kunai.If Minato can kill the opponent and escape in an instant, why didn't he do so back then?

This point is about why he did not kill bee,it's not about if he could kill bee,as u saw minato is not a ninja who would kill for no reason,his main role was The child of prophesyIt's like saying why did itachi not kill any tail,itachi did not capture any tail because he did not want to..The same with minato,he knew bee had a tail in him in an instant,he also said that they would fight next time,he wasn't in the mode for a fight after all,it was the raikage that attacked him,plus he called off his ninjas,what does that tell u,if he could move faster than Raikage are u saying that he can't move faster that bee,He knows bee has a tail,so he already knows that he could not kill bee with that weapon even if he wanted

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If the opposing shinobi has a powerful armor, like the third Raikage for instance, Minato's attacks will not work on him.The raikage can trade hits with Minato and kill him.

This is a speculation,because minato is an incomplete character,so i could say that because he was trained by jariya he knows sage mode,which is a speculation,so u can't make a point without fact that minato can't trade hits with the raikage U_U

Minato and Rinnegan users:
Lately, fanboys have been arguing that Minato can defeat rinnegan users.
They say that Minato can mark the enemy and destroy him in an instant.
If so, answer these questions:

Yes he can but not in an instantU_U
1.

The rinnegan's asura path can create a powerful armor.How can Minato's Rasengan pierce through that?

If i recalled correctly it was Rasengan that naruto used to kill himU_U

Even if the rasengan can do that, Preta path will simply absorb it

.Naruto out smartened him,so unless minato is dumber than naruto this point is useless
2

How can Minato get close to the opponent and mark him if he uses Shinra tensei to repel all of Minato's kunai?

Shinra tensei is not a justu u spam like FTD,i believe Nagato can't use it more than 3times a day,and it's not only kunai he can use,it could be a sword with the seal on it,anything solid can be marked with it,so this point doesn't go anywhereU_U
3.

How will Minato get past Chibaku tensei when all of his FTG kunai are getting pulled towards it?

Like i said he can place it anywhere ,and without FTD minato is faster than painU_U

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B]MS Users with susanoo:[/B]
Minato can't mark the MS user if he has his complete susanoo to protect him.
He can mark susanoo, but he wont be able to destroy it with rasengan.
In case of Sasuke's susanoo, Minato won't be able to get close, as Sasuke guards it with his Enton.
The MS user can put Minato under Genjutsu if Minato tries to attack him, and he can then use the opening to attack Minato with Amaterasu.

Another speculation,We don't know if minato has a justu that can go under sasunoo or destroy it,and amatersori ,i think u have not be watching naruto,if u had u will know that Minato>>>Naruto>>>Raikage>>>>amatersori

Genjutsu is much faster than Minato's kunai, one look is enough to cast it.It can also be cast by using a finger.

And who do u know that can see minato's eyes because last time i checked kishi made it clear that all u see is a yellow flash,expect u can place a flash under genjustu then this point is just useless

Minato fanboys say that Minato's strength is unrivalled, even by so6p, just because Kishi said that in this Manga page:

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Again with the fanboyz say this,they say that,is this about fanboyz of Minato,make up ur fuccking mind & i don't even understand that page

They don't use any logic,they flame you for no reason whatsoever, and they accuse you of trolling when they don't have anything left to say.

This is 1 reason why u made this threadU_U

Conclusion :
1.Minato's FTG is useless against shinobi with strong defences.

ooo,LAST time i checked tobi had 1 of the best defense,so did d 9tails whose body can't be touched & this is just d only 1 we know ofNot to mention his sealing justus

2.Minato can't win in an instant, he can only get to the opponent in an instant.

U have just failed there,if he was to telepot to an opponent with a rasengan to the back coming out of the space time hole,is that not an instant win...It all depends on the opponent & his speed or defenseU_U
3

.If the opponent attacks Minato before Minato attacks him, Minato loses.

This is the worst point that u have made,attack someone faster than u rightlike the raikage did not try thatU_U& look what happened to him

4.Minato can't defeat rinnegan users or EMS users.

Ok now this is where i say u are just trolling

NOTE: I'm not a Minato hater, I'm just stating facts.
I do hate Minato fanboys though.

By hating the fanboyz u are hating minato becoz u did not call any of the fanboyz name,u didn't make a thread on them,it is minato who takes the heatU_Uand sorry but this thread is far from factsU_U

:Get your popcorn ready young ones, a flame war is about to begin.[/QUOTE]
Another reason for me to call u a troll with a popcornU_U

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

You failed to grasp the simplest words...to make it even more simple for you how did the 3rd raikage got injured in the 1st place and hoe did Naruto beat him?...The wounded raikage is open to attacks

and that doesn't mean anything with his durable body, and only his attack that manage to wounded him, and when steel vs steel clash the win will be the one whose stronger, or are u saying minato kunai>raikage durability ?

i know minato cut bee tentacle with his kunai, but then again sasuke chidori spear do same thing, and yet sasuke chidori don't do jackshit to A body

 

[OWanime]

you can even see minato trying to teach B and A a lesson he didn't have the intent to kill just like naruto doesn't like to kill unless it's necessary (i.e zetsus) xd

 

[kyuubinaru]

We don't know enough about Minato to judge whether or is overrated or underrated to be honest. He was Hokage, I'm pretty sure you would have to have more techs than ftg, rasengan, and sealing to become Hokage.

 

[BloodSeed]

then there will be no naruto series, its all plot shield to keep the story line interesting




no need for that RAT i clearly saw u stated "minato will slice the 3rd throat" or something like that.

if your clinging to that F...ng plot shield SAGE OF THE 6 PATHS wouldve not die because he is the creator of ninjutsu but he didnt have the immorality? while other weak ninja are immortal?? why he didnt use immortality if he dont want that jubii to come back again???

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

if your clinging to that F...ng plot shield SAGE OF THE 6 PATHS wouldve not die because he is the creator of ninjutsu but he didnt have the immorality? while other weak ninja are immortal?? why he didnt use immortality if he dont want that jubii to come back again???

note that the sage is still human, and i bet what u meant with weak ninja is hidan, but guess what if u mutilate hidan and destroy his body parts then he will be dead.

 

[sravan]

I agree with u to some extent but ur under rating him.A shinobi who is best in many jutsus,speed,stamina,judgement and capability are nominated as hokage. A shinobi who is best will be hokage we still didn't know all his powers so shut ur mouth but iam sure to say a man with only sealing jutsu or rasengan will not become hokage he is regarded as a hero and yellow flash so wait until his all powers are shown.

 

[BloodSeed]

note that the sage is still human, and i bet what u meant with weak ninja is hidan, but guess what if u mutilate hidan and destroy his body parts then he will be dead.

orochimaru, sasori, hidan ???? edo tensie will become immortal(i think) and i call them weak if you compare them with the SAGEofthe6paths

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

orochimaru, sasori, hidan ???? edo tensie will become immortal(i think) and i call them weak if you compare them with the SAGEofthe6paths

orochimaru gain soul transfer tech and the side effect is he can only stay in 1 body for 3 years or something like that, and also he stated that he will get killed if he keep fighting 4 tail naruto so no he's not immortal, and i doubt the sage will use dirty trick like that to keep him alive,

sasori is not immortal wtf are u talking about, stab his heart and its over

i already explain about hidan

edo tensei is practically dead guy and their existent is determined by the jutsu casterU_U

 

[warlee]

Minato fanboiz counters nothing they just bark like a police dog +rep to op

 

[sunnex]

People say Minato is strong because we never saw him lose a fight when he was alive, even when he died it wasn't considered a loss because he saved Naruto and gave him the 9 tails which is a plan he came up with for his son to surpass him and fulfil the frog sages prophecy. Also who says he can't break out of genjutsu, it is possible to break out if you have good chakra control which he probably does because he is able to use high level sealing techniques and he is the hokage after all. Why do you think Sasuke never tried to put the Raikage under genjutsu when he was being bitch slapped? Cause high level ninja around the kage level can escape it quite easily.

This

 

[sunnex]

Oh, and by the way, unlike Tsunade he wasn't made Hokages because he has big boobs. xd

Lol