Lightning Armour is better than FTG

[TrollingSage]

I was arguing because the op said that the sharinfan could not keep up with v1 raikage. I never said that sasuke without sharingan could do it.

On top of that, i find it funny when people flame at sasuke for having the sharingan as his main weapon. It is his weapon, stop saying that he would be shit without it. Taking the sharingan away from him is the same as taking the gates out of guy, taking the nine tails out of naruto, the rinnegan out of nagato, mokuton out of hashirama. They all have their ultimate weapons and saying what they would be without those is useless.

I wasnt
I just thought u were one of those people who think Sasuke's speed=Raikage v1 speed just because he could counter the Raikage's attack

 

[Better]

I don't see why people are saying sasuke is shit without the sharingan.Lots of great ninja's would be nowhere near as good if you took their strongest weapon of them.

Naruto: Nine tails
Kakashi: Sharingan
Nagato: Rinnegan
Kisame: Samehada
Gaara: Sand
Onoki: Dust release
Mei: Bloodline limits
Danzo: Izanagi
Itachi: Susanoo
Minato: FTG

And even if sasuke didn't have the sharingan he would still have kirin,fire style,chidori,chidori variants,kenjutsu and pretty decent intelligence.

Also i should have phrased it better,i meant the sharingan wasn't fully capable of keeping up with version 1 A.

Naruto: Nine tails wrong w/o the kyuubi naruto is still a kage level ninja
Kakashi: Sharingan kakashi was a jonin at age 13 without the sharingan
Nagato: Rinnegan true
Kisame: Samehada kisame without the samehada can still use all of his abilities and he tanked 7th gate without it
Gaara: Sand true
Onoki: Dust release no lol he only used dust release once, and he has three other elements
Mei: Bloodline limits still has those elements that make up that KG
Danzo: Izanagi still has shisui's eye and his wind element ability
Itachi: Susanoo -__- what? he was an anbu captain before he even unlocked MS
Minato: FTG

 

[Rayder]

Naruto: Nine tails wrong w/o the kyuubi naruto is still a kage level ninja
Kakashi: Sharingan kakashi was a jonin at age 13 without the sharingan
Nagato: Rinnegan true
Kisame: Samehada kisame without the samehada can still use all of his abilities and he tanked 7th gate without it
Gaara: Sand true
Onoki: Dust release no lol he only used dust release once, and he has three other elements
Mei: Bloodline limits still has those elements that make up that KG
Danzo: Izanagi still has shisui's eye and his wind element ability
Itachi: Susanoo -__- what? he was an anbu captain before he even unlocked MS
Minato: FTG

I didn't say that they were weak without them i said that they were not as good without them since they are the persons strongest techs.

Naruto: would not be able to spam clones or rasengan,he couldn't go KM mode and he will be able to use sage mode for very long.

Kakashi:Yes but he can do raikiri more time now thanks to sharingan. He also uses it to copy jutsu's and he would not be called the copy ninja without it.

Kisame: he would not be able to go shark mode or absorb chakra.

Onoki: Yes but that's his strongest jutsu and if you took that away from him then he would be downgraded.

Mei:Yes she does but mist and lava are her stringest kekkei genkai's and without it she would be nowhere near as strong.

Danzo: I forget about shisui's eye.

Itachi: Itachi without susanoo would not have totsuka or yagatama or a good defense. It is his biggest trump card and without it he would be seriously downgraded. He can't seal anything and it his strongest defense. Without it he has fire style,MS and intelligence. It is strongest move and he would not be at the level his is right now without it.

 

[Fighter2011]

I don't see why people are saying sasuke is shit without the sharingan.Lots of great ninja's would be nowhere near as good if you took their strongest weapon of them.

Naruto: Nine tails
Kakashi: Sharingan
Nagato: Rinnegan
Kisame: Samehada
Gaara: Sand
Onoki: Dust release
Mei: Bloodline limits
Danzo: Izanagi
Itachi: Susanoo
Minato: FTG

And even if sasuke didn't have the sharingan he would still have kirin,fire style,chidori,chidori variants,kenjutsu and pretty decent intelligence.

Also i should have phrased it better,i meant the sharingan wasn't fully capable of keeping up with version 1 A.

I agree with everything, but how is the sharingan not fully capable of keeping up with v1 A, if in this picture we can clearly see that sasuke dodged the attack and put a chidori to A's chest?

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[Rayder]

I agree with everything, but how is the sharingan not fully capable of keeping up with v1 A, if in this picture we can clearly see that sasuke dodged the attack and put a chidori to A's chest?

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Yes but the Sharingan is meant to predict attacks sometimes even before the person has fully done them. It wasn't sasuke's own speed keeping up with A it was his eyes. At the beginning when A activated v1 armour and him and Darui attacked sasuke,sasuke needed suigetsu to block A's attack.Later when sasuke got more used to A's speed he was able to keep up a lot better.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

raiton armor drain to much chakra while in FTG it depend from the object size

 

[StrifeMaccy]

They are both powerful techniques, alot would depend on hows it used...
The lightning armour techniuqe was over rated at first however, as I dont see how Naruto could dodge an attack, when a sharingan apparently cant even keep up with it.
So i believe the sharingan couldnt see the raikage when he was very close moving sideways as he was only in view for such a tiny amount of time...
and then Madara seemed capable of following and blocking his attacks until he got lightened by the old kage man guy dwarg person

 

[Fighter2011]

Yes but the Sharingan is meant to predict attacks sometimes even before the person has fully done them. It wasn't sasuke's own speed keeping up with A it was his eyes. At the beginning when A activated v1 armour and him and Darui attacked sasuke,sasuke needed suigetsu to block A's attack.Later when sasuke got more used to A's speed he was able to keep up a lot better.

He needed Suigetsu to block the attack because he had to dispell genjutsu just before it. Besides, in Part 1 we see how the sharingan is not everything. When Sasuke fought Rock Lee, he read all his movements, but could not keep up because his body speed was slower. Against Raikage's V1, however, we see that Sasuke not only read his movements, but also had enough speed to dodge it. Now I AM NOT SAYING SASUKE IS FASTER THAN RAIKAGE"S V1. I am only stating that he was fast enough to react, dodge and counter one attack.

 

[Tim Tebow]

I would actually want Lighting Armour than FTG.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

Naruto: Nine tails wrong w/o the kyuubi naruto is still a kage level ninja
Kakashi: Sharingan kakashi was a jonin at age 13 without the sharingan
Nagato: Rinnegan true
Kisame: Samehada kisame without the samehada can still use all of his abilities and he tanked 7th gate without it
Gaara: Sand true
Onoki: Dust release no lol he only used dust release once, and he has three other elements
Mei: Bloodline limits still has those elements that make up that KG
Danzo: Izanagi still has shisui's eye and his wind element ability
Itachi: Susanoo -__- what? he was an anbu captain before he even unlocked MS
Minato: FTG

Don't include Minato's FTG in this category dawg, Minato CREATED FTG with his own intelligence and ninjutsu proficiency, this aint like a sentient weapon like totsuka, yata mirror, or rinnegan or any bllodline limit, he CREATED it, made it himself, don't ever take that away from him. His situation is clearly different from the others you mentioned.

 

[Rayder]

Don't include Minato's FTG in this category dawg, Minato CREATED FTG with his own intelligence and ninjutsu proficiency, this aint like a sentient weapon like totsuka, yata mirror, or rinnegan or any bllodline limit, he CREATED it, made it himself, don't ever take that away from him. His situation is clearly different from the others you mentioned.

Yes he created it but without it he wouldn't be the fastest ninja alive, Orochimaru would have beaten him to the title of Hokage,He would have died against Tobi and He would not have been able to stop the 9-tails Tailed beast ball.