Who's stronger, the Second Tsuchikage (Muu) or Itachi?
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10TailedPower
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Muu with difficulty.
He can go invisible and completely wipe off his chakra.
He could then attack susanoo from behind where there is no yata mirror.
If somehow Itachi manages to seal him muu could split.
He can go invisible and completely wipe off his chakra.
He could then attack susanoo from behind where there is no yata mirror.
If somehow Itachi manages to seal him muu could split.
Kakashi Fang
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Itachi would win but with high difficulty.
Mu's invisibility jutsu can be negated by those with special eyes because it leaves behind traces of chakra. That would explain why Madara treated Mu like a little pet.
Since the invisibility of Mu would be useless against Itachi because of the Sharingan Mu would be left with Dust Release, Jinton, Body Splitting, and sensor techniques.
It would be a good fight but unless Mu starts off from long range he has no chance because he would be in a Genjutsu and not even notice until Itachi make his use Jinton on himself.
If they started at long Range Mu would make Itachi keep dodging his Jinton release, idk if Susanoo can withstand the force of Jinton even with the Yata Mirror. Itachi would probably use Amaterasu
but idk if he would be able to catch a flying Mu with it because he is a sensor and would know it's coming and fly away from it and if he does get caught he can just use the body splitting technique to avoid damage, but at the cost of not being able to use Jinton release anymore. Although I don't see Itachi hitting Mu with Amaterasu at long range because it's hard to target at long range especially when your attack doesn't have a large radius.
Ultimately I see Itachi winning but Mu could pull it off also.
I mean Mu was Madaras pet afterall, maybe because the power of the Sharingan was far superior than his own.
Mu's invisibility jutsu can be negated by those with special eyes because it leaves behind traces of chakra. That would explain why Madara treated Mu like a little pet.
Since the invisibility of Mu would be useless against Itachi because of the Sharingan Mu would be left with Dust Release, Jinton, Body Splitting, and sensor techniques.
It would be a good fight but unless Mu starts off from long range he has no chance because he would be in a Genjutsu and not even notice until Itachi make his use Jinton on himself.
If they started at long Range Mu would make Itachi keep dodging his Jinton release, idk if Susanoo can withstand the force of Jinton even with the Yata Mirror. Itachi would probably use Amaterasu
but idk if he would be able to catch a flying Mu with it because he is a sensor and would know it's coming and fly away from it and if he does get caught he can just use the body splitting technique to avoid damage, but at the cost of not being able to use Jinton release anymore. Although I don't see Itachi hitting Mu with Amaterasu at long range because it's hard to target at long range especially when your attack doesn't have a large radius.
Ultimately I see Itachi winning but Mu could pull it off also.
I mean Mu was Madaras pet afterall, maybe because the power of the Sharingan was far superior than his own.
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kotoamatsukami
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wrong itachi to smart to lose his eyes wins the fight an muu will use his eyes if not he will lose 4 real. u an all should kno if ur not senju or uchiha or naruto or u do not hav rennigan u lose to itachi thats how it is.
Orochimaruwantsyourbody
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Even if you don't buy that Itachi is plainly stronger, you have to acknowledge the match currently favors him due to the Sharingan and intelligence factors. The hyped Dōjutsu is more likely to see through the indistinctness than, err, anybody.
Mr.Beastie
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When was Muu his pet......
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Also Muu just doesnt have dust release,jinton,splittingand sensor techs.
He also has earth,fire and wind techs as well. Because as yamato stated its hard to combine elements....muu combines three so he had to master thos elements first.
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Black Adam
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as Uchiha fan boys tend to do.......just saying......not trying to start nothing
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In the first few times, we see a tech demonstrate its hype, but later on its reveiled to be an exaggeration. Anyway back on topic, its clear itachi is stronger than mu, but due to mu's invisibility that will cause him the main problem and not dust release. If itachi can track mu or something, then imo its a guaranteed victory, if not mu has a chance of winning.
Btw mu isnt as invisible as we think, if the 2nd mizukage killed him and i made a thread about his so called invisibility;
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No offense, but your fanboy is showing a little. Despite what's been said and shown in the manga you're still going against it by assuming that it will change later on just for the sake of your argument? Riiight. We have proof against Amaterasu's hype, and none for Dust Release. Simple.
Half your thread is based on footprints, okay, Mu can fly soooo... yeah. Naruto hasn't been shown to be able to sense chakra in Kyuubi Mode, he can sense negative emotions. I don't know about you, but Mu doesn't seem like a very positive person. There are a lot of things in Naruto that don't make sense, or are just that and nothing more. In Mu's case, Kishi gave him the ability to become perfectly invisible. No sense in arguing with the creator.
It's kind of like when people say that Sasori should be able to be placed under Kotoamatsukami because he's got a nervous system and blah blah blah. No, he has no mind, that's it. How does his body work? How does he have emotions? Because Kishi made him that way, shut-up. lol
I'm unaware of the debate going on between you 2 gentlemen,but while reading this response i must point out that Muu's Invisibility isn't perfect,as perfection isn't something any shinobi has achieved.
The flaw in it is the fact that to attacks he must become visible again(i gave a quick analysis in my previous post about this),so yet again Itachi's very words come to my mind when he said Every Jutsu has a catch to exploit.
Blaze Release
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Reason im going against the manga is because, ive noticed a pattern in relation to techniques that get hype. Whilst i acknowledge that mu can fly, that thread was about his invisibility and nothing else. Anyway since he has to become visible in order to use dust release, that could cause a problem
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The camouflage itself is practically perfect though. If not scratching the very edge of perfection. Whichever way you look at it it's good enough for this fight seeing as the only people who could find him were Gaara with his sand, and Naruto by sensing his emotions. Both things that Itachi doesn't posses. And attacking no matter which way you look at it reveals the position of anything and everyone.
You stated already what i stated myself in my analysis of the match.
Still the flaw in the jutsu remains,indeed the camouflage is perfect,but the jutsu un it's whole not,and for already aforementioned reasons he needs to get visible to make an actual attack
opthomasprime
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I understand, but Is it really a flaw though? If you think about it he has to become visible, yes, but even if he didn't have to the attack itself is more than obvious. Maybe the camouflage is really a means of getting out of the line of sight in order to use the Dust Release.