Is Sasuke right in seeking revenge against Konoha or not?

[-Vegeta-]

I don't think he's wrong for wanting to kill the elders, but there's no reason at all for him to want to kill the citizens and destroy Konoha. The citizens of Konoha didn't even know why Itachi slaughtered the Uchiha clan so to blame them for it is utterly ridiculous.

 

[Wind..]

I just think that he is stupid for going against Konoha after he learned what Itachi did and I think he should help Konoha as Itachi did

 

[Aotsuki Katsumi]

He doesn´t care if it´s right or not, since he´s lost everything he should be entitled to chose whatever path he wants, no matter how dark or wrong it is. Even if he´d have returned to the village before he committed his crimes he´d be living a lie, and he
wouldn´t be able to keep the anger contained forever.

We can debate on whether it´s right or wrong, but not even Itachi can dissuade him now his hatred has fully manifested. Itachi's and Naruto's words might reach him, but with his hatred he will just shrug them off. He can´t be blamed for how he´s feeling of course, he had exceptional potential for both good and evil, and he chose evil. His decision to kill all of Konoha is not based on rationality, it is pure and absolute revenge, in his individual thoughts all of Konoha is guilty of living in a peace where the price was everything he loved. It is a twisted outlook but revenge itself is a twisted justice.

 

[Raidenuser]

It was wrong to destroy the whole Uchiha clan including the innocents but that does not make it right for Sasuke to destroy the whole village. The story needs to come out and the elders brought to justice by the village. One man deciding justice is never right

 

[MissShakra]

Sasuke's decision is irrational and his thinking on why it is an appropriate punishment is understandable, just like Oxide said. It doesn't make it right..but the elders created their worst enemy. They deserve to die for what they did because they should have just punished those responsible, not the men women and children...but then again, think in their shoes... their thinking is probably just that if they didn't eliminate all the Uchiha, how could they guarantee this wouldn't be a problem again? No part of either side is right or ever going to be right, but this is Sasuke's justice just like Pein destroying the leaf village for two ninja's accidental actions (i dont think it was an accident for some reason...i think someone was behind that). These are examples of real world situations and patterns that exist in todays time. Naruto is that person who has to put a stop to the hate cycle thats created when people cant just forgive and not retaliate and he does put a stop to it by not recreating the hate cycle himself like Sasuke has done. Naruto and Sasuke, as Naruto told him, could have easily been in opposite shoes or on the same path as each other. One though, couldn't forgive and one could. The one who forgive and chose love now has a much better life than he could have imagined versus Sasuke who turns away anything that cares for him and is now living in cold and dark insanity plane out somewhere far off in his head lol.
Then again, Sasuke could have had a change of heart when Tobi told him the truth and decided maybe he didnt trust Tobi at all and is slowly trying to take Tobi down. Maybe not necessarily for the shinobi alliance, but maybe for helping Itachi kill the clan. Sasuke has much much more to show us i think. Regardless though, no Sasuke shouldnt be doing what he wants to do, but yes he thinks its justified and in weird ways he is right..but also wrong. Its equal punishment but those who werent involved like the women and children and even men who had nothing to do with it dont deserve to die. Thats what Sasuke has to see and stop with. He has to accept that screwed up shit happened and that for it to not happen again, he has to not do it!! sorry that was a long rant sorta...


Oh and Sarutobi never wanted them to kill off the clan FYI, they didnt really give him a choice at all. He put it off for as long as possible...his only mistake was not killing Oro...for if he had not let him live, he wouldnt have went after Sasuke...who Itachi mistakenly left alive...to destroy Konoha whether or not the clan would have still died. The mistake was Itachi not telling Sasuke the truth himself...Sasuke became a pawn to Oro because of that hate Itachi left him with on thinking he killed the clan because he really wanted to "test his skills"...as good of a character as he is..Itachi is to blame for alot of this....

 

[natssuu]

Well yeah, his clan was killed by Konoha, so his actions are understandable.

 

[x15751x]

It's irrational since ultimately it was Itachi's wish for Sasuke to return to the village.

 

[Nikohru]

HE'S NOT RIGHT! Revenge solves nothing and revenge can't bring the ones he lost back to life. PLUS, the people he wants to seek revenge on (I'm assuming Danzo, Hiruzen and his counsel)... most of them are already dead or going to die of old age.

Sasuke's consumed by hatred, confused and makes no sense to me :|

He should have stayed in Konoha and make sure that what happened to him didn't happen to anyone else. He's cool sometimes... but he acts like he's the only person with drama in their life U_U

And the entire village didn't hate the Uchiha Clan, (as someone stated earlier on).... they hated Naruto. The massacre was strictly between the heads of the village and the uchiha clan

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Sasuke's revenge isn't justifiable, but not irrational either. The elders decided to kill those who were weak and innocent amongst the Uchiha, not just the ones responsible for the planned rebellion. Since the elders killed all Uchiha indiscriminately, the only equivalent revenge is to kill all konoha equally indiscriminately. An eye for an eye, is what Sasuke wants. Just as the Elders took everything from him, so he wishes to destroy everything they wanted to protect.It might not be fair on those innocent people simply living their lives, but that's the fate the elders carved out for them with their act of genocide. To think they would get away with such a crime is what is irrational. Sasuke is entirely the consequence to their deeds.Sasuke is wrong, at least on a moral level, and he may have been driven mad, but the revenge itself isn't irrational. *soooooo Idk..

Rep + I agree with dis post really dis post end't dis thread

Personally I feel he should its kinda his property any ways seeing that his family including the senju scum created it...
Bet yall never thought about that...

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Itachi is dumb how can sasuke no what he wanted if he was taught to hate em + was lied too, itachi with his last words could've told him go back to the village... Or even set up some guide lines for him to be the hero he wanted + make him progress enough to kill tobi... But he didn't now the same shit he wanted to protect he put in harms way.

 

[MrScribble]

That was his plan so i guess he is going for that...

 

[Darkakatsuki]

Sasuke's revenge isn't justifiable, but not irrational either. The elders decided to kill those who were weak and innocent amongst the Uchiha, not just the ones responsible for the planned rebellion. Since the elders killed all Uchiha indiscriminately, the only equivalent revenge is to kill all konoha equally indiscriminately. An eye for an eye, is what Sasuke wants. Just as the Elders took everything from him, so he wishes to destroy everything they wanted to protect.It might not be fair on those innocent people simply living their lives, but that's the fate the elders carved out for them with their act of genocide. To think they would get away with such a crime is what is irrational. Sasuke is entirely the consequence to their deeds.Sasuke is wrong, at least on a moral level, and he may have been driven mad, but the revenge itself isn't irrational. *soooooo Idk..

I agree with this, but this isn't just about the elders, remember that it was actually Hashirama and Tobirama who started this, Tobirama who created the uchiha police so that he could keep watch of the uchiha clan like they were a bunch of rabid dogs or criminals just because of what madara did, even though they betrayed madara and chose the senju.

The elders and the sandaime were just following in their predecessors footsteps and carried on the tradition of blame the uchiha for anything that concerns the fox and make sure they don't get too strong by making them freakin police officers when their powers are obviously meant for going out on shinobi missions and fighting strong opponents, you need to be danciong between life and death in order to master your sharingan, not watching over civillians in the village like a normal cop while you yourself are being watched like a hawk by A.N.B.U.

The Uchiha were not perfect angels but they didn't deserve the way they were treated and were pushed into a corner where they had no choice but to fight back, unfortunatley for them, their own prodigy and ace in the whole turned out to be a backstabbing snake.

Anyway I think even Itachi knew that what he was asking of sasuke was rediculous, no one would do what he wanted sasuke to do, Itachi knew this otherwise he wouldn't have gone to such great lengths to manipulate sasuke into becoming a puppet for konoha with all those lies and efforts to keep the truth concealed, even going as far as to try to control him with koto amatsu kami, which would have really turned him into a true puppet given how sasuke feels about konoha and the message that itachi implanted on that Jutsu.

I don't think anyone whose occupation is that of an assasin, especially considering that they are also required to lie, cheat, steal, and do whatever it takes to complete their mission has a right to talk about right and wrong, no shinobi has that right to speak like that given what they do, so I won't say whether sasuke is right or wrong, but I will say this, I would never spend my lifetime serving and protecting a place that was responsible for the suffering and ultimate demise of my family, I don't think I would be able to face them in the after life if I did that, and also don't think I would be able to face them if I didn't even try to get justice for what happened to them, so I can sympathise with sasuke.

I think before, when sasuke didn't know the truth, he didn't care about making friends or bonds, nor did he care about finding a woman to help rebuild his clan because what would be the point of having precious people when the person responsible for all killing all of your family is still out there and could come back and take it all away again and you would be powerless to stop him.

I think that is why he didn't care about anyone else at the time, because he had to kill itachi first and make sure he was strong enough that there would never be a repeat performance, and ONLY then would he open his heart up to find a person to love and help rebuild his clan, but now that Itachi is dead, and he knows the truth, that person that could take it all away again is konoha itself.

He probably thinks (with good reason) that it would be foolish to rebuild his clan at the place that did so much harm to it and could do it again, and he knows that they will never stop hunting him down no matter what, nasruto won't stop and the've almost captured him before after his fight with deidara and after his fight with Itachi and it was thanks to team taka against deidara and tobi against Itachi that he wasn't captured, the only way for him to rebuild his clan in peace is to destroy the ones responsible for its demise for revenge, and for his and his future family's safety and peace, just like konoha destroyed his family for their peace, an eye for an eye I guess.

I also think destroying konoha is a form of revenge against Itachi, I think sasuke subconsciously still hates Itachi because we all know that sasuke loved his family more than Itachi, he would have never done what Itachi did. When he told tobi that he wouldn't follow whatever Itachi wanted him to do and that he would rebuild his clan in his own way, the way he said made me think that what he meant was that he wouldn't be manipulated by Itachi anymore and I think that he subconsciously wants to completely eradicate what Itachi lived for, but I could just be overthinking it I admit.

Any at the centre of it, I don't blame sasuke and I think In the CONTEXT OF THE SITUATION, sasuke's ambitions to destroy konoha are more than justified, and it is true, the elders and the sandaime didn't even spare the innocent people and kids in the clan, so why should sasuke, besides, those kids that he might spare could cause problems for his clan and himself in the future, they will want their own revenge, why risk that?

But what sasuke did to team taka at the summit arc is completlely evil and irational, especially what he did to karin. I mean team taka are the ONLY ones in the whole narutoverse that didn't judge him, didn't try to make him do things against his will, didn't try to kill or capture him, but genuinely wanted and tried their best to support him and help him with his goals, and then he just deserts jugo and suigetsu like that and tries to kill karin, nah man, nah man! That was pure evil, come on, they were like the only people helping him to get revenge without really asking for anything in return.

When he first stabbed karin in order to get danzo, I was ok with it, I mean it was a win win situation, the stab would get danzo to let go of karin, she would be hurt, but she couyld be healed at a later time, danzo had too many injuries already so he woyuld be far worse off then her, so it was cool, but then I find out that he actually wants to finish her off!?

Na, his revenge quest made me respect him a little, some people would be cowards and justify their lack of action to get their justice by saying they overcame their hate or whatever, but after what he did to karin and taka, nah I hate the dude now and I hope he dies.

 

[lanakau888]

His desire to destroy the leaf elders is somewhat understandable.

His decision to act on his desires by not only killing the elders but also destroying the entire leaf is not.

 

[Darkakatsuki]

I just think that he is stupid for going against Konoha after he learned what Itachi did and I think he should help Konoha as Itachi did

Really? So you think it is right to betray and kill your family like Itachi did? Sasuke is wrong for wanting justice for his family's death but Itachi is right by killing his own mother and father and the rest of his causins and uncles, even the little innocent kids in the clan, even his own girlfriend, this is the example sasuke should follow? Are you serious? If I was responsible for the death of your family, and the police told you to spend the rest of your life serving and protecting me, would you do it? Because that seems to be what you're asking sasuke to do?

Another question, would you do what Itachi did, kill your family for fighting against their opression and spend your life protecting the opressors?

I don't know you so I won't jump to conclusions or judge you, but you must realise the implications of your words, you words imply to me that you would also kill your own family for a bunch of 'strangers' like Itachi, it also implies that you would even go so far as to brainwash your brother with lies so that he can follow in those footsteps and live a lie, it also implies that if your lies didn't work and your brother found out the truth, that you would hypnotise him (koto amatsu kami) so that he can be a mindless puppet for his enemies, the same ones responsible for his family's death?

Do you see the impression your words might give to others about who you are?

Please think carefully next time, I'm not saying that you're any of the things I mentioned above, because I think you didn't think about it carefully before you typed it, I'll wait for your next post on this topic before I pass judgement (damn that last part didn't quite sound right or humble).

Anyway would you follow in the footsteps of someone like that if you were in sasuke's shoes?

I really hate that people actually fell for that 'Itachi was a good and noble guy rubbish', Itachi was nothing like but, he is the lowest scum in my books who was brainwashed by the sandaime and the elders into killing his family, a spineless scum who wantyed his people to just accept descrimination and take it lying down peacefully so that he wouldn't have to face his fears (war).

Imagine if women never fought for their rights and just accepted descrimination, imagine if the black people or the jews never fought for their rights and just accepted perdecution lying down, what would the world be like?

Even worse, imagine if one of their own (Itachi) was too afraid of war, too afraid to handle the burden and the sacrifice required to fight for a cause and then outright decided to kill every woman/black/jew? Would you say that person is a hero? Would you want your little brother to follow that kind of person?

Read the manga or watch the anime more carefully, and then try to put youself in sasuke's shoes, I dislike sasuke for other reasons that I've already gone through in my other post, but I dislike Itachi even more, off course it is just an anime, but some of the things there are real life issues that Kishi somewhat addresses.

 

[angel131740]

If he wants to avenge his brother then no since Itachi would not want that. If he wants to avenge his family then wanting to get revenge on the elders is understandable. Vengeance against the whole village is just stupid, they are innocent people and he would just be perpetuating the cycle of hate and violence since they are all innocent.