Senjus

[xxSAGExx]

A loss is a loss and Mito had kyuubi sealed inside of her after the fight, it was 1v1

Oh and ther 13 year old was a dead 21 year old when he defeated a crippled, Edo controled Nagato with the assistance of the two strongest Jinchuuriki.

What term wouldn't be needed? the clans wer equal in strength, which is why neither managed to kill the other, allthough you could say the third Hokage's regime was still influenced by the Senju, which means the order to assassinate the Uchihas were the Senju doing, which would mean Senju won. But if you don't then I'm alright with that too. The term "genius" was a little too generous a term used.



Yeah, we can't touch those blessed eyes, it's only the fact that a non Uchiha had like 10 of them on his arm like used them like it was nobody's business and all the other eyes are in a labratory...aparently that means nothing I guess *sigh*



Bolded part: Speculation with no proof, try again.

Wait a minute now all of a sudden now he has the help of the Uzumaki clan and his wife?xd Give me a break it was one on one, Hashirama won, Mito sealed the Kyuubi inside herself after deal with it bro. Madara had the kyuubi, the fact Hashirama took it away from it and gave it to my wife just makes your leader look even worse, although I'm a Madara fan I can't deny this.

You're not making any sense now, the reason for the Uchihas being equal to the Senju was because the Senju had 1000 skills to combat them with. If you clan was so great, why couldn't they win earlier. All the Uchiha had were some eyes and dojutsu techniques which apparently weren't enough to be beat the Senju. You can't say the Senju were unimportant/weak because they were said to have 1000 skills while the Uchihas were only said to have Sharingan so it evens out.

Uchiha had powerful shinobi: Izuna's dead because his brother took his eyes, Madara lost his last fight to Hashirama just before he died, Itachi killed the rest of his clan, Shisui pretty much betrayed his clan as well trusting and aiding Itachi in a way, Sasuke's the only consilation and his ass is a psyco.

Who cares for whatever reasons Itachi decided to do this, Itachi killed his clan, thus betraying it. He ended his bloodline and failed his last mission keeping his brother alive, who is only shaming your precious clan even more. Half of what you said was speculation so I will ask you to give me proof that the Senju were unimportant/weak because if they were your clan should've been able to kill them off, so that would mean your clan is weak as well.

Oh and I want this proof of yours that the Senjus were wiped out before the Uchihas.

Tsunade is still half Senju half Uzumaki, grand daughter of the 1st Hokage. But I agree with the rest also Tobi said other clans regarded the Senju as the strongest clan and it wa Madara fighting Hashimara that got the Uchiha clan famous

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[xxSAGExx]

No I think that the Uchiha or some other unknown clan was the strongest. I've got a feelings something similar to Naruto's story happened (Hashirama and Tobirama were kids from the weakest clan (Senju, but i'm just guessing) and kept being beaten by Uchiha but after training they became the srongest and kicked the Uchiha's ass to make Senju have a higher rank, they might have unlocked a powerful bloodline ability from the Sage of The SIx Paths).

Clearly said other clans fearedand repected the Senju clan as the strongest clan (Tobi tells this to Sasuke) and Madara made the Uchiha famous from fighting Hashimara and that they wee the only ones capable of stading against the Senju. Standing against is not being stronger, just able to holding them off and fight on equal level.

 

[Reborn]

dude stfu anyone who thinks itachi is stupid is a retard themselves he took the orders that the elders gave him and dealt with it because he did it for the leaf if he wanted to he could have easily killed the elders and been a rogue ninja right there but he planned on leaving everything to sasuke but due to the circumstances the KA had to be used on itachi instead.

and u saying madara was "fukd" by hashirama(no homo) but u neglect to mention that it was madara vs hashirama, the kyuubi, and the uzumaki so they had to go all out on him so dont try to shit on madara.

Sasuke wasnt tamed by anyone 1st of all so lets cut that out he simply needed someone to perform the operation so he could get the EMS so if anything they're using each other i doubt sasuke gives a damn about tobi and i think when he wears out his usefulness for sasuke its over

shisui isnt a genius like sasuke he just happened to have a hell of a ms technique and its not a move you can spam with because after u use it it takes 10 yrs i think b4 u can use it again and not to say shisui is trash but he was fighting the same thing sasuke was and that is 10 sharingans so danzo had a crazy upper hand since he likes to grave rob the uchiha

Yeah...you got that part wrong up there. I was Madara+kyuubi vs. Hashirama in the beginning.

Hashirama took the kyuubi from Madara in the middle of the fight, defeated Madara and then had Mito seal it within herself. Mito had no hand in the actual battle nor did anybody else. I don't get what's with your entire group thinking that Hashirama had all this back up to deal with Madara, that's just bs, admit that it was a 1 on 1 fight like real men (and women) and just be done with it.

ok Uchiha Central it's time to go and leave this thread

stop fighting a battle that as of now for us is very pointless

time to make your way back to the group and write anything else you have to say there

Your group is very persistant.

No I think that the Uchiha or some other unknown clan was the strongest. I've got a feelings something similar to Naruto's story happened (Hashirama and Tobirama were kids from the weakest clan (Senju, but i'm just guessing) and kept being beaten by Uchiha but after training they became the srongest and kicked the Uchiha's ass to make Senju have a higher rank, they might have unlocked a powerful bloodline ability from the Sage of The SIx Paths).

These "feelings" of yours have no textual background in the slightest so I would reccomend you keep them to yourself unless you have something to back it up. Not to mention you just called the Senju the weakest clan, which is probably the most incorrect thing I've heard on this thread so far.

Tsunade is still half Senju half Uzumaki, grand daughter of the 1st Hokage. But I agree with the rest also Tobi said other clans regarded the Senju as the strongest clan and it wa Madara fighting Hashimara that got the Uchiha clan famous

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Well actually she's not half either. Her grandparents were Senju and Uzumaki meaning one of her parents were half Senju/Uzumaki. Now we don't know if her other parent was Senju, Uzumaki, or another thing entirly so we can't make up the other half of the gene, but I get what you're saying.

 

[Itachilover94]

Your group is very persistant.

don't rub it in :|

 

[Toshiro]

Both were even, but Senjus were Superior in a way.​

 

[Reborn]

don't rub it in :|

Sorry my dear, I just love to see how antsy they are.

 

[Roofy128]

poll
Senjus

 

[S33k3r]

Imo Madara lost the battle against the First Hokage but won the war between the two rivals as he is the one that is still alive in the end....

 

[christyle88]

senju and uchiha were rivals so its a tie

 

[S33k3r]

But adding to that post... I think as a clan the are pretty much equal, as it was an endless battle passed on from generation to generation both sides waiting for a ninja to win the rivalry.

 

[S33k3r]

senju and uchiha were rivals so its a tie

I agree.

 

[Yokima Yagame]

But adding to that post... I think as a clan the are pretty much equal, as it was an endless battle passed on from generation to generation both sides waiting for a ninja to win the rivalry.

That's where Naruto and Sasuke come they will end this war of "rivalry"
that Senju and Uchiha started !!

 

[Reborn]

That's where Naruto and Sasuke come they will end this war of "rivalry"
that Senju and Uchiha started !!

Actually it would be Uzumaki vs Uchiha then

 

[KiriyuSenju]

The Senju and Uchiha are equal in power. The Uchiha had immense chakra quantity, aswell as the sharingan dojutsu which is very capable. The Uchiha inherited the power from the older son of Rikudo. The "eyes". On the other hand the Senju clan inherited the body and will of Rikudo. The will being the will of fire, the body as allso great quantity of chakra and raw physical strenght. The power of the body and the will combined is extreme powerful, because having the will to try until you win allso the win gave them the ability to master any skill they wanted, as the body they inherited could make it possible. As i said the Uchiha and Senju are equal in strenght. One does not beat the other. The senju clan had the ability to master any technique which is why they got "The clan of thousand jutsu" It does not reffer the senju as one member being able to master 1000 techniques each but the fact that which ever jutsu (not kekkai genkai) could be mastered. As for instance Hashirama with his mokuton, suiton, and doton element. Allso his great ability in taijutsu tho he were most known for his ability of mokuton. Tobirama was the greatest suiton manipulator that had exsisted, as he only used one hand seal for the most powerful of water techniques. He allso could use his water element freely at placed without any bodies of water. He allso is decent at time and space techniques stated by minato. There is allso one more senju member from that era who is not too well known because she werent a hokage. But Toka Senju was known as the greatest genjutsu master at that time. Everyone know the vast amount of techniques and power the Uchiha clan is able to do. But i would say excluding Tobirama,Hashirama,Toka and Madara, Izuna,Sasuke and Itachi i would say the clan's had both strong and weak members. Thus pretty much cancelling each other out. I have alot of times seen people overrating the uchiha's sharingan. People have mostly forgotten that Only Madara,Izuna,Shisui,Itachi and Sasuke have ever achieved Mangekyou Sharingan. Allso only Madara and Sasuke have ever achieved Eien no mangekyou sharingan. Only Madara have ever achieved Rinnegan as achieved so excluding nagato and rikudo who allso had rinnegan. Pretty much all other uchiha's was under 3 tomoe sharingan as few even had that. So pretty much all others excluding those who were mentioned was weaker or average skilled shinobi. And allso the same goes for the Senju clan not all members were extremely powerful like the senju's mentioned, most were just average skilled. People over rate both Uchiha and Senju. And i say both are equal in strenght regardless of opinions everyone has different.

 

[narutoandnagatobrothers]

Actually it would be Uzumaki vs Uchiha then

but naruto believes in the senjus will of fire

 

[S33k3r]

but naruto believes in the senjus will of fire

True.