Orochimaru was after the Rinnegan.

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There was something that had been bothering me for quite some time and that was that Orochimaru, the most brilliant shinobi (intellect regarding) ever to live in Konoha, was obsessed with possessing Sasuke's Sharingan. Why? Because we know that he had knowledge about the Rinnegan as Nagato (Pain to be more precise) was there the day Itachi entered Akatsuki so Orochimaru had to have seen the Rinnegan. Also because Orochimaru helped Danzo creating his sharingan arm, so he knew that Danzo was packed and could have simply demand a pair.

Then the fact that Kabumaru had all the info he had on Madara and Tobi made me realize. Orochimaru was after the Rinnegan all along. It was never about Sasuke's eyes. The secret behind all Ninjutso is the Sage of Six Paths Doujutso, the Rinnegan.

So why all the trouble with Sasuke? I'm assuming that all that Kabuto knew before he went to talk to Tobi Orochimaru knew as well. As Kabuto showed us he had real high suspicions that Madara had unlocked the Rinnegan after incorporating Senju cells in himself. So it's obvious that they must have united the dots and realized that the path to Rinnegan is Sharingan-MS-EMS-EMS+Senju Cells-Rinnegan.
Orochimaru already had access to Senju cells, so he needed EMS. The only way to achieve EMS was to have two siblings with MS taking the other one eyes. The only two Uchiha siblings alive were Sasuke and Itachi. Orochimaru, tried Itachi first. When that failed he went after Sasuke and he had no problem promising Sasuke that he would kill Itachi, as that was his first goal all along. He needed both his eyes.

I think this gives back some credit that is due to the shinobi I consider to be the more talented mind in Naruto.
 

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Why did you think he wanted Sasuke?
 

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The only reason ever stated during the Manga was when Orochimaru told Kakashi that he also wanted a sharingan like Kakashi had so that he could lear more jutsos faster. And Sasuke was the only one available, which we know know that Orochimaru knew was a lie.
 

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I didnt even read it, because it sounds absurd just to read the title.
 

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I think it's because the Rinnegan was thought about after Kishi had done the Oro storyline and now he's just weaving it all together. Happens when a series gets dragged along like this...
 

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yeah didnt read but we all know that
 

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Yes he was going after the rinnegan.
 

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I didnt even read it, because it sounds absurd just to read the title.

What is it so absurd about the tittle? It's a statement that has high probability of being true.. :/
 

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after recent chapters it became obvious , he told kakashi he didn't want sharingan btw... not just sharingan... he could get that anytime, he told him he wanted an uchiha, uchiha blood , same with kabuto, he said he needs a young skilled uchiha to unlock the truth of ninjutsu, he's after rinnegan also
 

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Yup but Kabuto has a different motivation. The Rinnegan has the ability to bring people back from the dead. Orochimaru's parents maybe were the reason why he wanted the rinnegan. But Kabuto's motive should be different. The fact that both Tobi and Kabuto need Sasuke to their ultimate goal will make it very interesting soon enough.

Still I think that this realization that Orochimaru had foreseen and uncovered this far so long ago is very unique. Puts him in a whole different league regarding info and mind might. Before him Shikamaru, Itachi and Jiraya seem to be retarded.
 

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Yup but Kabuto has a different motivation. The Rinnegan has the ability to bring people back from the dead. Orochimaru's parents maybe were the reason why he wanted the rinnegan. But Kabuto's motive should be different. The fact that both Tobi and Kabuto need Sasuke to their ultimate goal will make it very interesting soon enough.

Still I think that this realization that Orochimaru had foreseen and uncovered this far so long ago is very unique. Puts him in a whole different league regarding info and mind might. Before him Shikamaru, Itachi and Jiraya seem to be retarded.

orochimaru could have revived his parents a long time ago, the moment he was able to do edo tensei... he even offered to revive dan and nawaki for tsunade,.... He just wanted immortality and to learn all the jutsu of the world,
 

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Thanks captain obvious ; )
Of course he was ... Hashirama's power + Uchiha's power + Kabuto's talks about So6p and Oro's research of the tablet and Madara's Rinnegan ... also his goal of learning 9999999999999999999 techniques .... Bingo!
 

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orochimaru could have revived his parents a long time ago, the moment he was able to do edo tensei... he even offered to revive dan and nawaki for tsunade,.... He just wanted immortality and to learn all the jutsu of the world,

I don't think Edo can classify as an actual resurrection, it's more of a summoning but the people summoned remain dead for all intents and purposes. Nagato's resurrection technique on the other hand was a truly revival people became alive and mortal once again, like they had never died in the first place. Although I agree that Orochimaru's goals might have change and strain from the originals the primordial goals remained as the fuel for his passion. As for Kabuto, he seems to be locked in fulfilling his masters plans. This seems to be the only goal he has in mind there is no tangible background for his pursuit of the Rinnegan, apart from the love he might have for his master.

Thanks captain obvious ; )
Of course he was ... Hashirama's power + Uchiha's power + Kabuto's talks about So6p and Oro's research of the tablet and Madara's Rinnegan ... also his goal of learning 9999999999999999999 techniques .... Bingo!

Obvious or not it has never been stated before in this forum, and it's a topic that had not been discussed. And frankly the ability to connect the dots and read further than what is stated by Kishimoto by the majority of the people posting in this forum rises many doubts about anything being obvious to them.

If you think it was obvious to you then consider yourself glad that you can do the math. But don't try to bash on me for stating it.
 

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I don't think Edo can classify as an actual resurrection, it's more of a summoning but the people summoned remain dead for all intents and purposes. Nagato's resurrection technique on the other hand was a truly revival people became alive and mortal once again, like they had never died in the first place. Although I agree that Orochimaru's goals might have change and strain from the originals the primordial goals remained as the fuel for his passion. As for Kabuto, he seems to be locked in fulfilling his masters plans. This seems to be the only goal he has in mind there is no tangible background for his pursuit of the Rinnegan, apart from the love he might have for his master.



Obvious or not it has never been stated before in this forum, and it's a topic that had not been discussed. And frankly the ability to connect the dots and read further than what is stated by Kishimoto by the majority of the people posting in this forum rises many doubts about anything being obvious to them.

If you think it was obvious to you then consider yourself glad that you can do the math. But don't try to bash on me for stating it.

No No No, you misunderstood me. It was obvious to me, I'm glad you made this because some have not thought about that
 
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