Senju are not that good, we being decieved,even worse than uchiha by their goverment

the senju are bad people too


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I'm really surprised about how many people get worked up by these threads. Why didn't the author put an option on the pole to vote that both families (all families really) have good and bad and neutral people? One bad apple doesn't ruin the whole bunch.
 

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I'm really surprised about how many people get worked up by these threads. Why didn't the author put an option on the pole to vote that both families (all families really) have good and bad and neutral people? One bad apple doesn't ruin the whole bunch.

What about a couple hundred bad apples, would that ruin the bunch?

Join e Senju peace squad, we actually use the manga and anime to prove stuff instead of basless assumeptions :D
 

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when you see the power of the eternal mangekyou sharingan you may change your mind.

Yeah i will be like "oh look little girl sasuke got new contacts so he can see Naruto kick his a$s a little better ! Oh wait all he will see is a yellow flash bwahahahahah!!
 

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I love how even your people quit on your discussion. They left you in our hands... that's all I have to say.
Bye.
 

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I love how even your people quit on your discussion. They left you in our hands... that's all I have to say.
Bye.

well there would really be no point as to fight a war we can't win right now your group has more members which means more members to fight your point
 

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the hell is that?

Glad you asked, unlike our rival group we support the ideas of the Senju, that love and understanding is the way to peace insetad of force. If you are a fan of the Senju/Uzumaki or just don't like Uchiha (or their fanboys) join the group.

As Theleader to send you an invite to the group via VM if you're interested.

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This'll be easy...

1) Where is your evidence that Hashirama knew anything about Madara still being alive? Where is your evidence that he lied about anything. wtf is this first piece of your argument anyway? Izanagi requires senju dna, which Madara didn't have at the beginning of the fight. If he didn't know how the hell could he let his people know that he failed.

What would even be the purpose, are you also trying to call Hashirama retarded. If he knew a person like Madara was still alive, seeing how badly both shinobi were F***ed up I'd have the largest hit out on that mofo's head in a heart beat and then I'd go out myself before somebody else killed him and got the reward money because I don't like to pay people xd

This first part is nothing but a weak assumption saying Hashirama was a liar and decietful when you have not proof what so ever in this first part at all. I really don't see any textual information from the manga to defend this, it's all empty.

2) What makes you say he was trying to manipulate the village? Where is your evidence. At this point this is not even an assumption based on anything, this is just Senju hate because notoby likes the Uchiha and since you have nothing to defend with you go to random assumptions for the Senju which can be easily defeated as it's already been done. Thank god I can type 60 wpm and this isn't taking me too long to write.

3) The only proof you have of either Hashi or Tobirama trying to spy on the Uchihas is the poliece force, and you're not even right in that. He wasn't spying on them, the claim was made that Tobirama made the police force to keep them out of the government. However, those "facts" :rolleyes: are from the mouth of a masked faced, biased liar so make what you will of that my guy :rolleyes:

4) Edo Tensai, really the only arguement you can make about Tobirama being bad. However you don't know why he made it, you don't know how many times he's used it, you don't know if he went through countless persons to do so, you don't know who those people might have been, but you do know that it labled Kin by Tobirama himself, you do know that Orochimaru and Kabuto stole it improved upon it, and you should have sense enough to not just single out the man who created it but the people who are actually using it to such a degree, just saying.

5) Throughout history the Uchiha's started the strife between the Senju and Uchihas with their ancestor being a crybaby about his father not choosing him so he felt the need to try to kill his brother. History says the Senju made the first hand at peace towards the Uchihas. History says that Madara was on his period when he didn't get the title of Hokage and left. History says that Tobi attacked the village and therefore suspicion fell on the Uchihas Konoha had the right to protect themselvs and isolate them in the corner of the village. History says that the Uchihas planned a rebellion to take over Konoha. History says one of the strongest clans of natural genius shinobi were taken out by a 13 year old.

You obtain Mangekyou by feeling the loss of your closest friend, apparently to Madara, Izuna, and Sasuke to feel that loss you have to kill them so you don't have to wait for them to die by some other means because they're stupid and impatient. EMS is gained through implanting the eyes of your sibling into your own. Whether or not that means grave robbing once their dead (provided you're not blind yet) or steeling them right out of their sockets while they're alive it's still horrible.

Next time you go for the kill make sure the knife isn't facing your own body, oh and you actually know how to use it. There is very little truth in here and there is very little evidence..

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Izangi is never really said to have need senju dna,it only sasy to increase it's power.If hashirama uses wood jutsu's that basically senses life by making forest and seeds(etc) he can know where madara is even if he some how faked his death he should be able tell by madara chakra.But we need more on there battle.
both hashirama and madara would know there's no point in fighting each other if they did it countless times and nothing seemed to work, madara just used his plan at this moment i don't think hashirama could defeat someone like madara,It sould be tie but not a fight and madara loses.
hashirama could have detected madara presence if he has wood style he obviously should have felt that something was wrong.

we don't know the whole truth of the uchiha clans power of their eyes
 

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well there would really be no point as to fight a war we can't win right now your group has more members which means more members to fight your point

That's never stopped people beforexd

You can convert if you wish :D
 

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Glad you asked, unlike our rival group we support the ideas of the Senju, that love and understanding is the way to peace insetad of force. If you are a fan of the Senju/Uzumaki or just don't like Uchiha (or their fanboys) join the group.

As Theleader to send you an invite to the group via VM if you're interested.

We have cool banners too :D

Forgot to thank you for joining the Lin Kuei my friend. :D
 

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Izangi means that the uchiha who used it pretty much cheated and would have died and couldn't resort to anything else except for sacrificing their eye (their only source of power).
 

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Izangi is never really said to have need senju dna,it only sasy to increase it's power.If hashirama uses wood jutsu's that basically senses life by making forest and seeds(etc) he can know where madara is even if he some how faked his death he should be able tell by madara chakra.But we need more on there battle.
both hashirama and madara would know there's no point in fighting each other if they did it countless times and nothing seemed to work, madara just used his plan at this moment i don't think hashirama could defeat someone like madara,It sould be tie but not a fight and madara loses.
hashirama could have detected madara presence if he has wood style he obviously should have felt that something was wrong.

we don't know the whole truth of the uchiha clans power of their eyes

Nowhere does it say that wood release gives Hashirama the ability to sense the chakra or presence of other shinobi and the only people who've used Izanagi have had Hashi's dna sooo yeah....

I don't get where you're getting these ideas of him being able to sense life through the forest and wood release like a Guru or something. Obviously both shinobi were F***ed up pretty badly after the match, Madara was thought to be dead.

Also by saying Hashirama should've known or did know about Madara still being alive is insulting the intelligence of a member of your own clan that you love so dearly. It's basiclly you saying Madara isn't smart enough to hide it...isn't Madara you're favorite Uchiha?xd

I'm not mad I'm as giddy as a little school girl...:D
 
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