Senju are not that good, we being decieved,even worse than uchiha by their goverment

[Naruto UzRinneganMaki]

this thread is all opinion based, and he should realize that his statement will not be supported unless he has solid evidence.

 

[x15751x]

Uchiha leader ain't even the leader of most Uchiha fanboys, there to fractured.

Hahaha. This.

 

[Uchiha Leader]

this thread is all opinion based, and he should realize that his statement will not be supported unless he has solid evidence.

yea like how the 2nd hokage was being baised to the uchiha

 

[Naruto UzRinneganMaki]

yea like how the 2nd hokage was being baised to the uchiha

the evidence?

BTW, you take so long to give me a comeback. Why is that? lol xd

 

[Zoro..]

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im telling you the senju are greatand and awesome

Okay so why should I be mad?

 

[kaka96]

I didn't know wood style allowed to detect other people :| where does it says that?

Kakashi was able to fake his death in front of pain, an rinnegan bearer... Kisame also faked his death, so did Deidara... and Shikamaru ... and Kankouro ... and Chiyo. A shinobi on Madara's level could easily fake his death after all, he survived after that, was able to live long enough for Nagato to born and yet no one ever found out

He MAY have spied on them as you said: MAY. Tobirama had good reasons for doing it and there is still no proof that his motives for the creation of the police corp and the rest were to spy on them as the only person who confirmed that is the biggest liar of all Narutoverse and a Senju hater

Tobirama labelled Edo Tensei a Kinjutsu after realizing it was too risky and vile and therefore never completed it.We have no proofs that he ever sacrificed anyone, maybe he originally intended to use the persons original corpse and labelled it a Kinjutsu when he realized that a living body is needed for it to work. Again it's only assumptions.

And yes, the Senju mistreated the Uchiha, but originally, The Uchiha started the fight after SO6P chose his younger son for the exact reason that led the Uchiha ancestor to attack his younger brother: thirst for power.
For all we know, troubles started when Madara betrayed the village and tried to destroy it, so there again, Uchiha were the start the hostilities.

I also believe that they might be other ways to awake MS but EMS need a sibling sacrifice, there's no going around that. Besides 5 of the MS wielder so far are involved in the death of a person precious to them. Now their could be 1 exception, the sixth one , Uchiha Shisui was never said to have committed murder of a person close to him but he still could have.

There's bad people everywhere, there's no going around that U_U some motives just make the actions seems more ... Honorable

 

[kakashi owns all]

The senju are just decievers they are not innocent as most of you claim.Senju hashirama was just a liar who didn't want to let his people know that he didn't stop he man that he set out to do.He obviously should have known that madara escaped if it was izangi madara would just reappear and it wouldn't be as good as danzo since madara didn't have senju dna at that time, trying to fight the 1st hokage to obtain dna in the first place.Hashirama sure could have sense where madara would be since he has wood release.

Either way hashirama didn't want his people to know.His on aim was just ot take over the village and manipulated all the clans within his village.Hashirama couldn't control the village either and he may have also have tried to spy on the uchiha's becuase of madara like tobirma.SO much for the trust right about the uchiha;s being equal.

Let's see tobirama now he too made a kinjutsu which defiesthelaws of his village and their ninja world.Just making that jutsu is even risky(you can only imagen his amount of sacrifices of people to complete that impure world ressurection jutsu)Either way tobirama defied the laws and made this dangerous jutsu and is also part of the reason for kabuto power(the rising villan)

either way through out history the senju have neglected the uchiha.YOU may say that the uchiha sacrifice to obtain new power butimsure they do other methods to obtain their decent power and it really seems that there are other ways to unlock the mangekyou.( we really don't know the truth of the mangekyou yet of it's awakening only hypothesis of it.)

there are bad uchiha's but the senju are no better and that could have led to the destruction of their clan.

do you really believe there'sno bad senju

on what i put in italic i made atread on and i think he may have used the uchiha as the test subjests

 

[Itachilover94]

....oh wow......really not the right time to make a thread Uchiha leader

number one rule:
when your in a war never jump right into battle unless you have a plan and the people to back you up

 

[Uchiha Leader]

I didn't know wood style allowed to detect other people :| where does it says that?

Kakashi was able to fake his death in front of pain, an rinnegan bearer... Kisame also faked his death, so did Deidara... and Shikamaru ... and Kankouro ... and Chiyo. A shinobi on Madara's level could easily fake his death after all, he survived after that, was able to live long enough for Nagato to born and yet no one ever found out

He MAY have spied on them as you said: MAY. Tobirama had good reasons for doing it and there is still no proof that his motives for the creation of the police corp and the rest were to spy on them as the only person who confirmed that is the biggest liar of all Narutoverse and a Senju hater

Tobirama labelled Edo Tensei a Kinjutsu after realizing it was too risky and vile and therefore never completed it.We have no proofs that he ever sacrificed anyone, maybe he originally intended to use the persons original corpse and labelled it a Kinjutsu when he realized that a living body is needed for it to work. Again it's only assumptions.

And yes, the Senju mistreated the Uchiha, but originally, The Uchiha started the fight after SO6P chose his younger son for the exact reason that led the Uchiha ancestor to attack his younger brother: thirst for power.
For all we know, troubles started when Madara betrayed the village and tried to destroy it, so there again, Uchiha were the start the hostilities.

I also believe that they might be other ways to awake MS but EMS need a sibling sacrifice, there's no going around that. Besides 5 of the MS wielder so far are involved in the death of a person precious to them. Now their could be 1 exception, the sixth one , Uchiha Shisui was never said to have committed murder of a person close to him but he still could have.

There's bad people everywhere, there's no going around that U_U some motives just make the actions seems more ... Honorable

well zetsu and yamato have hashirama power so hashirama can do the things they do with the wood release.

yea iagree but jsut wantedto say the senju don't seemto be that great as they were mentioned,they relaly could have been bad people

 

[Uchiha Leader]

on what i put in italic i made atread on and i think he may have used the uchiha as the test subjests

tobirama probably could have but that's a messed up thing for him to do

 

[Cryomancer Sub Zero]

....oh wow......really not the right time to make a thread Uchiha leader

number one rule:
when your in a war never jump right into battle unless you have a plan and the people to back you up

Looks like he has to learn it the hard way unfortunate for him.

 

[narutownsyouall]

theres no point to this thread i just wasted my life saying this Senju are much better people because history is written by the winner!! Yeah the Senju won so as far as im concerned the Uchiha cant say crap!

 

[Uchiha Leader]

theres no point to this thread i just wasted my life saying this Senju are much better people because history is written by the winner!! Yeah the Senju won so as far as im concerned the Uchiha cant say crap!

there is no winner the people in there clans are extinct it's only naruto,tsunade and then sasuke with madarauchiha and tobi

 

[Cryomancer Sub Zero]

There never usually is a winner with these guys.

 

[narutownsyouall]

Senju beat the uchiha! get over it how can you guys be passionate over something that doesn't even concern you let Naruto handle this as soon as he destroys sasuke and the Uchiha are finished for good

 

[Slug Princess]

Do you even Know what does SENJU means????

it means
A THOUSAND TECHNIQUES

good luck for the next. You are all done

 

[Tosen]

Do you even Know what does SENJU means????

it means
A THOUSAND TECHNIQUES

good luck for the next. You are all done

Couldn't have said it better.

I'd expect no less from a member of the Senju/Uzumaki peace squad.

 

[Slug Princess]

The senju are just decievers they are not innocent as most of you claim.Senju hashirama was just a liar who didn't want to let his people know that he didn't stop he man that he set out to do.He obviously should have known that madara escaped if it was izangi madara would just reappear and it wouldn't be as good as danzo since madara didn't have senju dna at that time, trying to fight the 1st hokage to obtain dna in the first place.Hashirama sure could have sense where madara would be since he has wood release.

Either way hashirama didn't want his people to know.His on aim was just ot take over the village and manipulated all the clans within his village.Hashirama couldn't control the village either and he may have also have tried to spy on the uchiha's becuase of madara like tobirma.SO much for the trust right about the uchiha;s being equal.

Let's see tobirama now he too made a kinjutsu which defiesthelaws of his village and their ninja world.Just making that jutsu is even risky(you can only imagen his amount of sacrifices of people to complete that impure world ressurection jutsu)Either way tobirama defied the laws and made this dangerous jutsu and is also part of the reason for kabuto power(the rising villan)

either way through out history the senju have neglected the uchiha.YOU may say that the uchiha sacrifice to obtain new power butimsure they do other methods to obtain their decent power and it really seems that there are other ways to unlock the mangekyou.( we really don't know the truth of the mangekyou yet of it's awakening only hypothesis of it.)

there are bad uchiha's but the senju are no better and that could have led to the destruction of their clan.

do you really believe there'sno bad senju

You know what??? we already won this fight...

 

[Uchiha Leader]

Senju beat the uchiha! get over it how can you guys be passionate over something that doesn't even concern you let Naruto handle this as soon as he destroys sasuke and the Uchiha are finished for good

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when you see the power of the eternal mangekyou sharingan you may change your mind.

 

[Reborn]

The senju are just decievers they are not innocent as most of you claim.Senju hashirama was just a liar who didn't want to let his people know that he didn't stop he man that he set out to do.He obviously should have known that madara escaped if it was izangi madara would just reappear and it wouldn't be as good as danzo since madara didn't have senju dna at that time, trying to fight the 1st hokage to obtain dna in the first place.Hashirama sure could have sense where madara would be since he has wood release.

Either way hashirama didn't want his people to know.His on aim was just ot take over the village and manipulated all the clans within his village.Hashirama couldn't control the village either and he may have also have tried to spy on the uchiha's becuase of madara like tobirma.SO much for the trust right about the uchiha;s being equal.

Let's see tobirama now he too made a kinjutsu which defiesthelaws of his village and their ninja world.Just making that jutsu is even risky(you can only imagen his amount of sacrifices of people to complete that impure world ressurection jutsu)Either way tobirama defied the laws and made this dangerous jutsu and is also part of the reason for kabuto power(the rising villan)

either way through out history the senju have neglected the uchiha.YOU may say that the uchiha sacrifice to obtain new power butimsure they do other methods to obtain their decent power and it really seems that there are other ways to unlock the mangekyou.( we really don't know the truth of the mangekyou yet of it's awakening only hypothesis of it.)

there are bad uchiha's but the senju are no better and that could have led to the destruction of their clan.

do you really believe there'sno bad senju

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This'll be easy...

1) Where is your evidence that Hashirama knew anything about Madara still being alive? Where is your evidence that he lied about anything. wtf is this first piece of your argument anyway? Izanagi requires senju dna, which Madara didn't have at the beginning of the fight. If he didn't know how the hell could he let his people know that he failed.

What would even be the purpose, are you also trying to call Hashirama retarded. If he knew a person like Madara was still alive, seeing how badly both shinobi were F***ed up I'd have the largest hit out on that mofo's head in a heart beat and then I'd go out myself before somebody else killed him and got the reward money because I don't like to pay people xd

This first part is nothing but a weak assumption saying Hashirama was a liar and decietful when you have not proof what so ever in this first part at all. I really don't see any textual information from the manga to defend this, it's all empty.

2) What makes you say he was trying to manipulate the village? Where is your evidence. At this point this is not even an assumption based on anything, this is just Senju hate because notoby likes the Uchiha and since you have nothing to defend with you go to random assumptions for the Senju which can be easily defeated as it's already been done. Thank god I can type 60 wpm and this isn't taking me too long to write.

3) The only proof you have of either Hashi or Tobirama trying to spy on the Uchihas is the poliece force, and you're not even right in that. He wasn't spying on them, the claim was made that Tobirama made the police force to keep them out of the government. However, those "facts" are from the mouth of a masked faced, biased liar so make what you will of that my guy

4) Edo Tensai, really the only arguement you can make about Tobirama being bad. However you don't know why he made it, you don't know how many times he's used it, you don't know if he went through countless persons to do so, you don't know who those people might have been, but you do know that it labled Kin by Tobirama himself, you do know that Orochimaru and Kabuto stole it improved upon it, and you should have sense enough to not just single out the man who created it but the people who are actually using it to such a degree, just saying.

5) Throughout history the Uchiha's started the strife between the Senju and Uchihas with their ancestor being a crybaby about his father not choosing him so he felt the need to try to kill his brother. History says the Senju made the first hand at peace towards the Uchihas. History says that Madara was on his period when he didn't get the title of Hokage and left. History says that Tobi attacked the village and therefore suspicion fell on the Uchihas Konoha had the right to protect themselvs and isolate them in the corner of the village. History says that the Uchihas planned a rebellion to take over Konoha. History says one of the strongest clans of natural genius shinobi were taken out by a 13 year old.

You obtain Mangekyou by feeling the loss of your closest friend, apparently to Madara, Izuna, and Sasuke to feel that loss you have to kill them so you don't have to wait for them to die by some other means because they're stupid and impatient. EMS is gained through implanting the eyes of your sibling into your own. Whether or not that means grave robbing once their dead (provided you're not blind yet) or steeling them right out of their sockets while they're alive it's still horrible.

Next time you go for the kill make sure the knife isn't facing your own body, oh and you actually know how to use it. There is very little truth in here and there is very little evidence..

Get at me.