Hashirama is the strongest shinobi ever to live after Sage of six Paths

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he did fight while using Edo, not much but he did get involved a few times. Also, I think another reason why he didnt do much was because he wanted to have fun using the 1st and 2nd as puppets and having the 3rd suffer emotionally. But to answer the question, yes I do. Just as the current Edo are part of Kabuto's arsenal.

Ok cool, yeh I agree. Well you can see why I would add them to Tobi's and Kabuto's arsenal even though they arn't physically in the battle.
 

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Bringer of Darkness Technique would wreck a sharingan user = it would destroy Itachi
Nagato would loose to the 1st because he has no mobility.(u can argue with me on this one probably)
the 1st would beat Tobi because of Bringer of Darkness Tech Tobi wouldnt know when to materialize/ dematerialize......shure Tobi has semi control of 7 of the tailed beasts(only uses 6).....well the 1st can control all of the tailed beasts...
-Madara lost to the First and Madara would admit it

the only people who I see beating the 1st are SO6P, SO6P Olderson/Younger, maybe the third in his "prime" we dont have enough info on him to decide that, dont rage on me im not a Minato fanboy but i cant think of a way the 1st could counter FTG Tech(4th could just tele away from Bringer of Darkness i think, if Minato beats the 1st somehow it would be in a very gay way...
 

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Ok cool, yeh I agree. Well you can see why I would add them to Tobi's and Kabuto's arsenal even though they arn't physically in the battle.

yea i do agree with you to some degree, as he is using them the same way Nagato did. But the only thing I was getting at was the fact that without Kabuto he wouldnt have been able to do this successfully or at all (IMO) as Kabuto provided a better army for him. However, I do see your point.
 

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yea i do agree with you to some degree, as he is using them the same way Nagato did. But the only thing I was getting at was the fact that without Kabuto he wouldnt have been able to do this successfully or at all (IMO) as Kabuto provided a better army for him. However, I do see your point.

K cool, yeh I understand.
 

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We have barley even seen the other kage, let alone who killed him so how can he be the strongest ?
 

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Bringer of Darkness Technique would wreck a sharingan user = it would destroy Itachi
Nagato would loose to the 1st because he has no mobility.(u can argue with me on this one probably)
the 1st would beat Tobi because of Bringer of Darkness Tech Tobi wouldnt know when to materialize/ dematerialize......shure Tobi has semi control of 7 of the tailed beasts(only uses 6).....well the 1st can control all of the tailed beasts...
-Madara lost to the First and Madara would admit it

the only people who I see beating the 1st are SO6P, SO6P Olderson/Younger, maybe the third in his "prime" we dont have enough info on him to decide that, dont rage on me im not a Minato fanboy but i cant think of a way the 1st could counter FTG Tech(4th could just tele away from Bringer of Darkness i think, if Minato beats the 1st somehow it would be in a very gay way...

except nagato doesn't need to move to absorb any of the firsts jutsu's, and the madara who lost against the first is just the EMS one.
 

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Wish we got to see things like Madara vs Hashirama battles instead of fillers ;(
 

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the first, doesnt he share blood with the so6p, same with uchiha? he split his powers to them(not the first, but the bloodline) the 2 brothers and taught the world ninjutsu?:flaw:
 

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Yea I think hes epic.

But do I love how guys saying there many shinobi that can beat Hasihrama but Madara is unbeatable dispite Madara taking Hasihrama's power and then awaking the rinnegan.

IF you wana believe Izuka noob statement about the 3rd hokage over Tobi and madara be my guest but your just neglecting obvious things shouting in your face.

And whats more funny both Hasihrama and Tobirama were toying with the thrid hokage in their fight and that was actually stated.

Common knewledge that Hasihrama is called the greatest shinobi of his time. Whether you wana believe this from Tobi is your issue but so far we have seen nothing to suggest otherwise. And Madara awoke the rinnegan just before he died which occured after his final figtgh with Hasihrama. He did take hasihrama's powers then got the rinnegan after, so make of that what you will.


Hasihrama's power is the basis of this series, the senju's dominance is whats keeping war going with things like edo tensei from Tobirama senju and both tobi/madara with hasihrama's dna. Not to mention Gedo mazo connected to that hasihrama clone plant thing.
 

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"I believe that only you [naruto] can surpass the Fourth Hokage.
~ Kakashi, The Legendary Copy Ninja of the Leaf..............................
"There was never a man that could surpass him [Fourth Hokage] "
~ The Legendary Raikage, fastest man in the world................................
"That unrivalled strength [Minato], that carefree smile.."
~ Masashi Kishimoto, Creator of Naruto.................
Aw come on, everybody pales in comparison to the fourth lord. As a shinobi his capacity was unparalleled, a true one-of-a kind.
~Jiraiya, the Legendary Sannin.
 

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"I believe that only you [naruto] can surpass the Fourth Hokage.
~ Kakashi, The Legendary Copy Ninja of the Leaf..............................
"There was never a man that could surpass him [Fourth Hokage] "
~ The Legendary Raikage, fastest man in the world................................
"That unrivalled strength [Minato], that carefree smile.."
~ Masashi Kishimoto, Creator of Naruto.................
Aw come on, everybody pales in comparison to the fourth lord. As a shinobi his capacity was unparalleled, a true one-of-a kind.
~Jiraiya, the Legendary Sannin.

"Greatest shinobi of his time" - Tobi about Hasihrama.
Think what shinobi were in this eara of Tobirama and Hasihrama, then ask ur self if thats more enough proof.

"Dont ever say that shinobi's name infront of me" - Madara about Hasihrama

Also being has is nothing if u cant damage ur oppenonet, The forth hokage only has his small rasengan. Hardly enough to deal with the old kages in the previous generations. You can stretch the hype all you want but thats Minato at the end of the day.
 

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greatest shinobi of HIS TIME...

Think what shinobi were in this eara of Tobirama and Hasihrama, then ask ur self if thats more enough proof. -- are those ninja techniques not improving? are those old techniques better than the new one?

are those ninja skills deteriorating?


That "unrivalled" strength [Minato], that carefree smile.."
~ Masashi Kishimoto, Creator of Naruto
 
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aiming at his lvl everyone sets off.. not only kakahsi, obito and rin. as in page 2 of that chapter they show sasuke craving for MORE power. and if you go through the pages everyone is training to become stronger!
 
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Lets see um

Nagato >> Hashirama

Itachi > Hashirama

Edo Madara > Hashirama


I dont how you think that one man can defeat an Edo when it takes entire armies to seal these things. Edo Madara would wipe the field using his meteor attack and wouldnt die. All those guys are stronger than Hashirama.
 
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