Sakura is better then Hinata

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Tanga-whatever the f*ck his name is
You seriously never heard of a "tangerine"? :|

Are you stupid or just pretending to be so you can use an effective cop-out? Kishimoto wrote those databooks himself. How, exactly, are they outdated? Oh, I know, because they don't support your point of view that Sakura is somehow better. It's easy to dismiss a critical factbook when it doesn't work in your favor. But it simply makes you an intellectual coward.

How does Kishimoto writing the databooks mean they're not outdated? U_U
The databooks are outdated, because they don't count the information from the recent chapters. I never stated they shouldn't be used. Just that we need an updated version. The lastest, D3, was first published on 9th September 2008 and roughly covers volumes twenty-eight through forty-three.
The manga gives a better showing of a character's abilties and is easier to base capabilities on that.

Funny thing about Sakura and "my favour". She's not even on my list of favourites whereas Hinata has been. Has been. I'm not as keen on Hinata as I used to be, but still mildly like her. I'm not Pro Sakura or Anti Hinata, I'm Anti Bullshit and Pro Fact.

You make claims with no basis other than Hinata has Gentle Fist-clearly she'd win by default. Than use an outdated databook instead of the recent manga, because it supports your claims. Yet I'm the coward?


Who's doing that? From the wiki, when later fighting Pain in the anime, her attacks were strong enough to snap Pain's Chakra Disruption Blades that were restraining Naruto and also able to strike Pain. Does that not strike you as Hinata having at least a substantial amount of strength?
No, it stikes me as someone using the anime as proof to support their claims when it's the manga that's canon.
You said before the databooks are written by Kishimoto and therefore count as evidence. Yet you seemed to have forgotten that the manga is written by Kishimoto and the anime isn't, which makes the former factual and the later not so much.
Manga=fact. Manga (by Kishimoto) shows us that Hinata is not an outstanding Kunoichi gaining levels in leaps and bounds, but a Kunoichi with potential who is gradually improving.
Does Hinata even breaking a rod and hitting Pain seem realistic to you, anyway?


You, once again, are an intellectual coward. Without even explaining why the databook is outdated, you simply dismiss it. Ridiculous.
I'm sorry. I had no idea someone would have difficulty in understanding "outdated" and didn't consider I'd have to actually explain how I wanted to wait for a recent databook.
Once again, you use databook and anime to support your favour. Entirely ignoring the manga.

Chakra Needle Technique - Ninjutsu
Eight Trigrams Thirty-Two Palms
Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm
Eight Trigrams Vacuum Wall Palm
Four-Corner Sealing Barrier - Ninjutsu
Gentle Fist
Gentle Step Twin Lion Fists
Palm Bottom
Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms
Chakra Needle Technique: Filler/Anime
Eight Trigrams Thirty-Two Palms: Filler/Anime
Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm: Manga (Has never been used alone)
Eight Trigrams Vacuum Wall Palm: Manga (Needs Neji/prehaps another Hyuga)
Four-Corner Sealing Barrier: Anime/Filler
Gentle Fist: Manga (used only on Neji and wasn't shown to be effective, meaning it's hard to base it's actual strength)
Gentle Step Twin Lion Fists: Manga (Wasn't actually shown in action)
Palm Bottom: Anime/Filler
Protection of the Eight Trigrams Sixty-Four Palms=Anime/Filler
What a bummer that anime/filler doesn't even count.:|

Excellent Chakra Control
Chakra Enhanced Strength
Chakra Scalpel - Medical Ninjutsu
Cherry Blossom Impact
Mystical Palm Technique - Medical Ninjutsu
You're treating it as just a list. Sakura was highly praised for her medical and chakra control abilities.
Hinata, on the other hand, hasn't been praised for anything. Not even her Taijutsu, which Sakura was praise for as well.
By the way, why doesn't Sakura get Four-Corner Sealing Barrier on her list? Not that it counts, but it still shows your biasness.

Nothing. Just Medical Ninjutsu.
Would you look at that? Two. Same as Hinata.
Except that Hinata's "Ninjutsu" is filler bullshit.
Medical is still considered Ninjutsu.

That does not excuse you for using it. You have a brain, don't you? Use it next time you try to make a point.
Prehaps you could put your brain to good use and note the actual meaning of my reply.
It wasn't about me using it (something I never denied), it was about me not being the original person to use the list after you said I was.

My bad, it seems I did. My point still stands, Cuteness should NOT be included. Instead of arguing you simply say "Oh, well I gave them both a point so you should be happy! It's okay" No. It's not. I already stated, but i guess you didn't comprehend, that cuteness should NOT be included because it is SUBJECTIVE and different for everyone else. I'm the one trying to go with solid facts. You, evidently, are not.
What solid facts? My list was based on the orignal with some slight editing. I care little by what you choose to do.

I never put a "who gives a ...?" on Medical Ninjutsu, idiot. Now you're putting words in my mouth. Sakura has her Medical Ninjutsu, Hinata has her Kekkei Genkai. Usually Medical Ninjutsu is a branch of Ninjutsu and should not be seperated, but since it's Sakura's specialty I let it slide. So why shouldn't I include Hinata's specialty? That's unfair of you to say. Argument failed.
"It's what I quoted in my original post." < Speaking of fail...
When did I even exclude Hinata's specialty or tell you not to include it?

Being biased? I'm the one explaining my reasoning. I misquoted ONE tiny branch, and I admitted it and corrected it. YOU say the databook is outdated for no explained reason, which leads me to think you simply dismissed it because it didn't support your arguments, and you DARE tell me I'm being biased? Kindly get the f*ck out and come back when you're ready to have a serious debate, kid.

I've been explaining my reasoning as well.

You corrected it AFTER my "goodness" comment, which was made due to your "let's be smart about it, unlike you".

I didn't think I had to explain "outdated", otherwise I would have.

Yes, I dare tell you you're being biased. You use the Databook and the anime, ignoring the manga. Yet you say the databook was made by Kishimoto (which it was). So why haven't you mentioned the manga? Easy-D3 says Hinata's Taijutsu is above Sakura's and the anime seems to show Hinata>Sakura.

Stop acting as if there's something wrong with me wanting a recent version of the databook when you seem to be dismissing the manga.U_U

Lastly, you said before "I really haven't seen any substantial ninjutsu techniques from either of them, so I just go by the databook on this one which gives both of them a 3.". You decided to go for the databook, because you hadn't seen substandtial Ninjutsu. It's no different to me deciding to use the manga (for being up to date), because the latest Databook doesn't count recent chapters.
 
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345Yup but it's a girl heheh crimson was owning her

thats why I tell do not get on crimson Tricksters bad side, I try not to xd

I'll keep that in mind. I dont think I'll have to worry too much though seeing as I dont like to argue a whole lot. :)

Pfft, I pwned her already and she just went away for a while and then started spamming "Sakura = Hinata" >_<

Oh yeah, u whooped her a$$! xd


I actually think Minato would be embarrassed seeing his fanboys.

I know I would, anyway. I mean, knowing that I'm the cause of all this stupidity and rage? That would suck dude xd

I would do one of two things:
1.) Kick their a$$es with the FTG
2.) Call in the ANBU black ops and have them kick their a$$es.xdxd

If I was Mianto I would Ftg on my fanboys and rasengan them from behind

they would be way to crazy for me.

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Stop hating Pain aint no god his the new sage of 6 paths.

sakura > Hinata


Hinata is better at martial arts but Sakura would win bro, her strength is immense and she has more experience with more deadlier opponents with team 7. Plus shes been training with Tsunade one of the 3 legendary Sannin.

Sakura does have more physical strength that's true but she's slow. All that strength doesn't matter one bit if she can't hit. Hinata is quicker and would shut that chakra down before Sakura could finish building up the amount of chakra she needs for those killer punches.
 

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Hinata=5 (Taijutsu/Cuteness/Personality/Bloodlimit/Usefulness)
Sakura=6 (Taijutsu/Ninjustu/Med-Nin/Cuteness/Personality/usefulness)

Scores are based on manga and not anime or databooks.

Why does Sakura get a point in Med-Nin and Ninjutsu? If Med-Nin is n a separate category then it shouldn't count into Ninjutsu. They both have not shown any useful ninjutsu (Really none at all) So it should be tied.
 

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Sakura does have more physical strength that's true but she's slow. All that strength doesn't matter one bit if she can't hit. Hinata is quicker and would shut that chakra down before Sakura could finish building up the amount of chakra she needs for those killer punches.
Where do people get the idea that Hinata is faster than Sakura in speed?

Why does Sakura get a point in Med-Nin and Ninjutsu? If Med-Nin is n a separate category then it shouldn't count into Ninjutsu. They both have not shown any useful ninjutsu (Really none at all) So it should be tied.
You're right. It was based on a list I quoted and I didn't consider that until it was mentioned.

I can just put "ninjutsu" instead. But "medic ninjutsu" is still "ninjutsu". Something Sakura has been shown to have great skills for.

Since Hinata's bloodlimit is based on Taijutsu then prehaps it also should be removed. "Bloodlimit", not "taijutsu".
 

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simply put, Hinata>Sakura<Minato=itachi>naruto<Nagato<Jiraiya>Tobi>Lee>Madara<Ichigo kurosaki>luffy=zoro>orochimaru<deidera<TenTen>Sasuke
 

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simply put, Hinata>Sakura<Minato=itachi>naruto<Nagato<Jiraiya>Tobi>Lee>Madara<Ichigo kurosaki>luffy=zoro>orochimaru<deidera<TenTen>Sasuke

I stopped at Jiraiya > Nagato

who killed whom :D
 

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So the fact that TenTen owns both Deidara and Orochimaru doesn't bother you? lol, priorities.

Thankyou :blush:

Ten Ten is better than Hinata is a thread am going to make next :D (and lol at the title of this thread, I said then instead of than hahah)

Your welcome but why didn't Sasuke marry Sakura?
 

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Atleast hinata practice hard, so he will be help for other, not just extra luggage what other ppl need to protect. Sakura has said 10 times that he wont get everybodys way next time, how ever she always just fails. She doesnt even practice combat as much as she needs, so she always get pwnd.
 

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I... will stay away from that thread. Alright, maybe not, but that's just too ridiculous for me to argue in xd

I based that off the relationship they had in the manga. Yeah, Sakura is completely in love with Sasuke, but it's obviously one-sided. I see no reason why this would change when they get older :3 I imagine that Sasuke would at least want a wife who can keep up with him at least a little skill-wise. Plus, I would have to make one of their kids have pink hair and an Uchiha with pink? Hell no.

Nah you could have made their sharingan pink and not their hair, would have worked both ways lol xd

But seriously though u should take my advice and have the evil council resurrect the one person who destroyed their village (set it 10 years after the first couple chapters) but than it backfires on them and Nagato breaks free and kills the council and then goes berserk until finally he comes back to his senses after destroying the leaf again and impregnating Sasukedaughter because she fell in love with his awesome might.

then have have the story about Sasuke grandson, the son of Nagato the sage of 6 paths :D

Nagato shippuden

Nagato FTW

Age of Nagato Uzumaki is upon us

All hail Nagato

For Nagato :izuna:
 

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A PINK Sharingan?

*pukes*

...And you wonder why people call you the biggest Nagato fanboy on NB, lol

Don't forget though, you promised me a detailed response when you were finished. I really wanna know on what to improve on, because right now I can't find anything that displeases me which is kinda concerning? xd

Got called on fanboy here again yesterday

and wow you have a good memory I will do that just you wait I will do that ok just you wait I will do that just you wait am going to wright the biggest and most wonderful detailed response you could possible imagine just you wait ok just wait it will take no time ok :mad:

via VM
 

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LOL. That was kinda inevitable.

Woah, I get it, no need to get all worked up, xd

So you're going to put your gigantic review in my little VM-box?

Okay, wait... that didn't sound right... :rofl:

LMAO hahahah :blush: nah

but you want it after I read everything or just the first chapter?
 

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That's up to you. Though, if you're going to separately review the first chapter, you might as well do the second, third, fourth and fifth xd

Or you could stuff it all into one big review. Whichever you prefer.

It's going to be a surprise tuts :D lol
 

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No, I told that douche not to call me tuts as well. Then he started calling me Trickster, which is cool with me :3

Am just playing lol am sorry :eek:

and ur username was more suited with ur old Ava then ur new one althou ur new one is cool hahah
 

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Ikr? My name is Crimson Trickster but everything is blue xd

But then again, that's why I'm a Trickster as well :3

Wow, this has gone so far off-topic...

Trickster lol true that :D

and Yes it did lol and it's ur fault LMAO
 

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Hinata is way better than flat-chested sakura.
 
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