MINATO’s Lineage and his Nature Affinity

[iSpeak]

Shadow clones: clone techniques use various elements to give the clone form and substance

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Body Flicker: accomplished by using chakra to temporarily vitalise the body and move at extreme speeds. It means that chakra movement was changed.

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Telescope technique: the user must know the person's chakra pattern to be able to use this technique.. falls under shape transformation

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I don't know why you are telling me this... all 3 of them don't use shape or nature manipulation like I said. Naruto's shadow clones doesn't use an element, just chakra. Like I said, Ninjutsu is just using techniques that require chakra. Flying Thunder God required chakra.

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

MINATO’s Lineage and his Nature Affinity:
I’ve been thinking about Minato’s Lineage and his Nature Affinity and then came up with this idea. I’ll discuss his nature affinity first to be able to trace his lineage.
Here we go:
1. Let’s talk about FTG. What is FTG? We all know that it is a Space-Time Ninjutsu. A master of this technique can manipulate space-time continuum.
2. Under what nature affinity does FTG fall? We have 5 basics element used for elemental ninjutsu. They are fire, wind, lightning, earth, and water. FTG is non elemental but it is classified as a ninjutsu. We can therefore conclude that FTG is outside the 5 basic elements.
3. There are advance types of elements, can we put FTG in this category? Maybe/No! Advance types requires Kekkei Genkai or a special ability rarely seen. Advance type combines elements to create a new element.
4. FTG is non elemental technique so it can’t fall under the 5 basic nature affinities and the 14 advance type.
5. This technique now falls under the 6th type which is YIN and YANG! Yin relates to one's spiritual energy and Yang relates to one's physical energy and it's necessary to utilise both of these in order to mould chakra for NINJUTSU. Thus, FTG was form by moulding Yin and Yang. This also explains why Minato was very knowledgeable about Yin Yang that he was able to separate kyuubi’s chakra into Yin Yang.
6. We only have 3 Space time users. They are Minato, Tobi, and Tobirama. Only Tobi was shown to have Kekkei Genkai and we can also see that he has Yin Release, Yang Release, and Yin-Yang Release. Can we consider Tobirama to be a Kekkei Genkai user eventhough it was not stated in his BIO? Of course. He is a senju and senju’s inherited the BODY of the sage.
7. If FTG was form by moulding Yin and Yang, we can conclude that it is an advance type of nature affinity. We also know that only a Kekkei Genkai user or someone having special ability can mould elements to form a new element. This will lead us to..
8. Minato is a descendant of the SENJU clan. This shows why he is so fast and was able to create Space-Time technique. What if he is one of the rare individuals that possesses special ability? That is probable but Minato strongly held the will of fire philosophy fitted to be a characteristic of the Senju clan. He can also be a Senju with a special ability.
9. Adding YIN-YANG to his rasengan was probably his goal but failed because it is non elemental. It makes sense since it is really hard to combine non elemental affinity.
10. Like Izanagi which removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space, S/T techniques removes boundaries between time and space which makes it INSTANTANEOUS. Only KKG users can mould two elements to form a new one.
DISCUSS PLS.....

I believe #8 is wrong. It hasn't been shown that the Namikaze clan is related to the Senjus. Naruto only is related to the Senjus because of his mother, Kushina. The Uzumakis are related to the Senjus because the wife of the First Hokage was an Uzumaki.
Also, FTG does not have to have a nature. It's kinda like Rasengan in that way.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

I don't know why you are telling me this... all 3 of them don't use shape or nature manipulation like I said. Naruto's shadow clones doesn't use an element, just chakra. Like I said, Ninjutsu is just using techniques that require chakra. Flying Thunder God required chakra.

why did u argue with this fanboy dude ? he even believe that minato can teleport ppl without touching them

 

[drwhitcher]

if ftg isnt a variation of summoning, why does he need speacial markings on kunai to "teleport" where he's going. that should be an indication that it's a form of summoning/reverse summoning because he needs to mark where he is going. his body guards were "taught" how to do the transportation portion of the technique and although it took three of them, it is still a teachable ninjutsu. if they could all 3 learn rasengan then the tech would be a full blown ftg.

 

[iSpeak]

why did u argue with this fanboy dude ? he even believe that minato can teleport ppl without touching them

:shrug: where ever he gets his information from is wrong. Although, I read Naruto.wiki, and it doesn't seem to contradict with what I am saying.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

:shrug: where ever he gets his information from is wrong. Although, I read Naruto.wiki, and it doesn't seem to contradict with what I am saying.

narutowikia is also fanmade so only the confirmed issue that can be trusted in that site while the gray issue is still uncondirmed

 

[iSpeak]

narutowikia is also fanmade so only the confirmed issue that can be trusted in that site while the gray issue is still uncondirmed

Yeh, thats why I told him it is much better to get his information from the Manga or from Kishi's databooks.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Yeh, thats why I told him it is much better to get his information from the Manga or from Kishi's databooks.

well fanboy like to speculate about his fav char, they have wild imagination

 

[MissShakra]

sounds interesting and well researched. is this based off stuff u found in the manga?

 

[Owarij]

All summonings are space time,
Ten tens scrolls are space time .......

Minato , tobi and tobirama have a higher degree of space time where they teleport themselves.....
Is that what you meant to say/

Tobi's is first and best ever seen in naruto verse, as kakashi stated his s/t doesn't involve seals or anything......

Minato places a seal on an object (human or kunai ) and uses the same mechanics of reverse summoning , to appear at that seal

Tobiramas is unknown , but from what kakashi said, it had something to do with seals also

 

[ajpn920]

read it. there are quite a few techniques that are non elemental/shape formation.

minato is not a senju or related.

Since FTG is a ninjutsu, is it shape or nature transformation? I'm talking about FTG here!! I'm not talking about other techniques.

 

[ajpn920]

well fanboy like to speculate about his fav char, they have wild imagination

Speculate? What part? Tell me and I'll answer!

 

[ajpn920]

All summonings are space time,
Ten tens scrolls are space time .......

Minato , tobi and tobirama have a higher degree of space time where they teleport themselves.....
Is that what you meant to say/

Tobi's is first and best ever seen in naruto verse, as kakashi stated his s/t doesn't involve seals or anything......

Minato places a seal on an object (human or kunai ) and uses the same mechanics of reverse summoning , to appear at that seal

Tobiramas is unknown , but from what kakashi said, it had something to do with seals also

Why are you confused with teleportation and summonings? What I'm doing here is figuring out what chakra nature FTG is made of since it is a NINJUTSU and definitely not a shape transformation.

 

[ajpn920]

sounds interesting and well researched. is this based off stuff u found in the manga?

Yes, of course. The info I have provided are the basic nature elements, advance, and the 6th element. I'm trying to figure out what chakra nature FTG is made of. I really don't understand why some say my info is incorrect. What info about nature elements is incorrect?

 

[ajpn920]

I believe #8 is wrong. It hasn't been shown that the Namikaze clan is related to the Senjus. Naruto only is related to the Senjus because of his mother, Kushina. The Uzumakis are related to the Senjus because the wife of the First Hokage was an Uzumaki.
Also, FTG does not have to have a nature. It's kinda like Rasengan in that way.

FTG is a ninjutsu. Ninjutsu utilizes chakra but FTG is definitely not a shape transformation because it deals with space and time. Take Izanagi for example. It removes the boundaries between reality and illusion and it is a YIN-YANG release type. S/T ninjutsu removes the boundaries between space and time.

I can explain why my analysis leads me to Minato being a Senju. If it turns out that FTG is a YIN-YANG release then it means that Minato has YIN release and YANG release moulding it to form YIN-YANG release.

Only a Kekkei Genkai user can mould two nature types. If he can mould YIN and YANG then defnitely he is a KKG user. We all know that KKG or "Bloodline Limit" are abilities passed down genetically in specific clans. The question is which clan?

As what we've seen in the manga, only few have KKG. Some uses dojutsu while others uses the combination of basic elements. Take note, BASIC ELEMENTS. Minato's FTG does not fall into the basic nature element since it is YIN-YANG release type. Only one clan left and it happens that a member of that clan uses S/T technique also. That's the Senju Clan. Besides, the story leads us to Senju vs Uchiha.