hiruzen sarutobi vs minato namikize
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TheGr8Uchiha
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Going into a fanboy argument when you have a pic of Hiruzen and I have a pic of Itachi? Hmmmm... Tobi still didnt counter it.... we have seen no one yet counter Minatos FTG! The only ones who know how to counter it are the people reading the manga U_U. I like how you avoid the question of, what overpowered technique does Hiruzen have?
TheGr8Uchiha
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Thankyou, someone that makes sense... Hiruzen = hype, what we saw from Hiruzen is not good enough to defeat what we saw from Minato. I really want to see Hiruzen at his prime.
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TheGr8Uchiha
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To all Hiruzen fans that say Hiruzen would beat Minato when Hiruzen was in his prime. What have we seen from Hiruzen at his prime? NOTHING, and do not tell me old Hiruzen would beat Minato, we have not seen anything amazing from Hiruzen! Feats>Hype Minato>Hiruzen
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-.- what have you seen from White Fang? And of course you would use one of the weakest characters of naruto. :flaw: My point is, what we have SEEN from Hiruzen can not beat Minato.
You are dumb and stupid. You love to run in circles!! Prove something where Hiruzen can beat Minato. If you'll say that he knows every jutsu in Konoha then why doesn't he have wind jutsus. If you say that he mastered existing jutsus, then it means that he can't counter Minato's jutsus because it was created by Minato. It was not an existing jutsu! Now, prove me something where Hiruzen can counter Minato's jutsu.
I bet you can't and instead go in circles just to make some nonsense argument. I have noticed that you are a Minato hater. If there will be a poll between sakura vs Minato, I bet you'll say that sakura will obliterate Minato because that's how stupid and dumb you are.
How sure are you? Can you give a battle scenario as to how Hiruzen can counter Minato's jutsu?
Hiruzens jutsu:
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Earth Release Shadow Clone (Anime, Game only)
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique (Anime only)
Earth Release: Earth Dragon Bullet (Anime only)
Earth Release: Earth Flow River (Anime only)
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet (Anime only)
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Roof Tile Shuriken (Anime only)
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique
Someone known as god of shinobi who mastered all jutsus has only Fire and Earth Element. It proves that characters like oro lied. How can someone who only have 2 nature type can master all jutsus? Can he do wind jutsus? how about lightning or water?
Prime or not prime, his techniques can't counter Minato's S/T technique. By the way, how can you tell someone at his prime? Is it by age? Or is it by mastery of ninja arts?
TheGr8Uchiha
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Finally someone that makes sense! What we have SEEN from Hiruzen is no match for Minato.
Eh? i don't need to see anything from him to know who'd win..
Just like you don't require seeing anything from white fang to know who would win don't you
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Iruka, Ch.94
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Databook- -PS - I do hope you realize the validity of his databook is unarguable and all correct even down to the height,age and blood type ......
SJ: While we're at it... could you please tell us if Minato was the strongest shinobi that ever lived?
MK: Hmmm, it's a tricky question. As far as dead shinobis goes, then yes, he's the strongest. I'd say that Sandaime shares the number one spot with him. As far as living shinobis goes... well, without going into many details I'd have to say no. There's a couple of shinobis whose stronger than him.
Interview- MK: Hmmm, it's a tricky question. As far as dead shinobis goes, then yes, he's the strongest. I'd say that Sandaime shares the number one spot with him. As far as living shinobis goes... well, without going into many details I'd have to say no. There's a couple of shinobis whose stronger than him.
We have 3 statements from kishi stating Hiruzen was the strongest.... 1 of them saying he ties with minato....
Now you all can sit here and argue all you want And ignore all the hype this man was given , God of shinobi, professor etc..... To each his own right? Goodday
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Minato was dead...hiruzen was alive when that was said....
Minato did surpass him because of old age though.. which is why he passed on the title.....as strongest ninja in konoha....Then after minato died, he was once again the village strongest and took it back
Prime hiruzen however > them all..
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I'm glad we to see Hiruzen in his prime oh wait... we didnt! And if we want to go by titles Minato was the man who was supposed to never get surpassed, and he was the part of the prophecy to save the world. But I do not go by titles I go by facts, answer this question.... what technique of Hiruzens that we saw could counter Minatos speed?
You know what that means right? If he knows all konoha's jutsu then it means that he had more than 2 elements. How can someone having only 2 nature type capable of mastering all jutsu's? Purely common sense.
Again, here are Hiruzens jutsus:
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Earth Release Shadow Clone (Anime, Game only)
Earth Release: Double Suicide Decapitation Technique (Anime only)
Earth Release: Earth Dragon Bullet (Anime only)
Earth Release: Earth Flow River (Anime only)
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Bullet (Anime only)
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Roof Tile Shuriken (Anime only)
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique
Taking out jutsus shown in anime, he only displayed 7 jutsus. Wow, that's something special for someone called god of the shinobi. I can't see a special jutsu in his arsenal. Only the Telescope Technique is labelled an A rank technique. All other techniques are B and C ranks.
Here are Minato's technique:
Contract Seal (Manga only)
Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Eight Trigrams Sealing Style
Flying Thunder God Technique
Four Symbols Seal
Rasengan
Space–Time Barrier (Manga only)
Summoning Technique (Toads)
Summoning: Food Cart Destroyer Technique
That's 9 jutsus displayed by Minato. Most of them are S ranks and most of them he created. That's something we call special. Now, please compare.
What jutsu listed on Hiruzen that can counter Minato's tech. We will debate only based on what we know. Here, I have given their abilities so we can compare. If you still insists on the term"GOD OF SHINOBI"S" that he has mastered all jutsus, then you are just fooling yourself because he only has 2 elements. We can't just speculate!
How about taking into consideration Jiraiya saying that Minato was very knowledgeable of the ninja world and he is one of a time genius. His abilities were so far advanced that even the Fourth Raikage thought that no one would be able to surpass him.